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Jesus is NOT a copy from Pagan religions! Those are lies! Do research and do not believe!

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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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When LunaKat and others post things about the faith that aren't true, I reply to
defend Roman Catholicism. Ask a Catholic.

And read the messages from Heaven, Our Lord's words and His mother's too give
hope and comfort. They will strengthen your faith. Jesus gives direction about
what is ahead. You only have to believe. And who down here speaks like that? No one.




posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by colbe
LunaKat is presenting her Protestant belief. Gee, I though she was a neo-Pagan? Fallen away Catholics are bitter about their loss.

Christ established a Church (Matt 16:18) not plural, Churches, denominations and their break aways, non-denominational.

The same Church (singular) who gave the world the Bible. It's historical, there
is a leader, a visible hierarchy and a sacramental system. The Church is not a group of people who can only agree on one thing, that the Bible is their authority and differ on everything else. Over and over in the Gospel is the call for "oneness" of belief.

Luna says respect a person's belief but attacks the true faith, Roman Catholicism
here and in most all of her posts, too much to underline here with the continual
put down of which isn't true. So her last line is not sincere. Which is it
LunaKat, a pagan Goddess is your God, good old "mother earth" or is Christ, God, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity your God? And who is believed for 2000 years truly present in the Holy Eucharist.



What is you need now Colbe??? I'm not Protestant or Catholic. What you want credentials or something? I was raised Catholic. Attended two Catholic grammar schools in the Chicagoland area (we moved once to a new area so new Catholic school). Attended Young Life in high school. Nuns were guests in our home for dinner and talk. When I became an adult I left the Catholic church of my own free will. Attended a charismatic Fundamental type Church for two years with my then fiance (married many years ago), we both left that after 2 years. Have been involved in the Dianic Tradition of the Goddess for the last 30 years. Thats Neo-Pagan to you Colbe.

I am not bitter about leaving the Catholic Church. I saw it for what it was. Its a business Colbe. The most successful churches are the ones that make money. I left it because I actually read the Old Testament --ever read it??? And in the Old Testament, that God you follow, would be put in prison for the things he has done or encouraged others to do in his name. His supposed "son" did not erase it. He is only there to lead you to his Father, the one who hates humans and tries to blame someone he calls "Satan" for everything that goes wrong. They got a little vacation spot called "hell" for people in or out of their Church and teachings. Being a Christian doesn't mean you don't go to Hell. All the phony love they pour on to get you to become a Christian and follow these whacked out teachings disappears once you are actually in any of these churches where you'll be reminded every Saturday or Sunday of all the ways you can still go to hell. In fact they know more about hell than God. Tally up the hours and years they spend talking on Satan and hell to the time they spend talking about God or love. You'll see which side of the scale they are on. If you want to learn about Satan go to some kind of a Christian church. You'll learn more than you ever wanted to know. They serve him they do with all their praise of him, Satan, and all the teachings they'll give you on exactly what he likes and doesn't like.

But Colbe despite all that I can still see some people want to attend it. To them it means something. Might not mean squat to me but I can see pain Colbe.. And as much as I differ from their choice their own Church is hurting them. Even a Neo-Pagan like me can understand you shouldn't have sex with children, you shouldn't mistreat women, you shouldn't start wars, you shouldn't rob people and call it charity, you shouldn't take the tiny bit an elderly person gets to live on to make money, you shouldn't watch men, women and children starve and sit in your Vatican or Rome with the finest of everything and go to bed at night on full stomachs letting them suffer when you have the money to help. You shouldn't take peoples churches from them because they don't make enough money and leave them abandoned without a spiritual home to call theirs anymore. Do you need more??? There is lots more Colbe.

By their fruits you will know them.

The Bible is a waste of good paper and a terrible waste of trees.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by LunaKat

Originally posted by colbe
Halloween is Satan's holy day.

Our Lord tries (our free will) to reach misguided souls. Another message naming Wicca.

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message to Father Melvin Doucette


The Narrow Door


Monday, October 31, 2011

Luke 13:22-30
Jesus passed through towns and villages, teaching as he went and making his way to Jerusalem. Someone asked him, "Lord, will only a few people be saved?" He answered them, "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I tell you, will attempt to enter but will not be strong enough. After the master of the house has arisen and locked the door, then will you stand outside knocking and saying, 'Lord, open the door for us.' He will say to you in reply, 'I do not know where you are from.' And you will say, 'We ate and drank in your company and you taught in our streets.' Then he will say to you, 'I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers!' And there will be wailing and grinding of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God and you yourselves cast out. And people will come from the east and the west and from the north and the south and will recline at table in the kingdom of God. For behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last."



"I greet today those who believe in Me and follow Me, especially you, My brother Melvin, and all My brothers and sisters living in every country of the world. If you follow Me you are truly My brothers and sisters. However, today there are many who are not following the way I traced out for them. If you reject Me, your Lord and Savior, how can you be saved? I am the door by which you enter the Kingdom of God.


There are many today who are following the evil one with the result that they are far from Me. If you follow the New Age movement, the Jehovah Witnesses, Wicca, or any other sect and do things like Reiki you can be possessed by evil spirits and they will carry you to hell. I call you all who have entered these non-Christian sects to get out of there as soon as possible and come back to Me. You know that Islam is not Christian and the Jewish religion is opposed to Me. All should get out of these religions and come and enter My Church and follow My teachings and you will be saved. I am the only Savior who came into the world to bring you all to heaven. It is absolutely necessary that you believe in Me and accept Me as your Savior. I call you all who are not part of My Church to accept that you are on the wrong road and come now and follow the right way."


That is absolute nonsense. Come on Colbe come to the Goddess. Find the Goddess inside and feel her heartbeat in the Earth. Know you came into this world by a woman not a man. Know that your first relationship on this Earth was with a woman, your Mother or one who acted as a Mother towards you. As above, so below Colbe. The reason the most important relationship to you as an infant, that of your Mother, was because it reminds you of your Divine Mother. Your first relationship was not with your Bible. You didn't suckle from the Bible or receive the care and nurturing you need to grow past infancy from a book. You received it from your Mother a representative of your Divine Mother. Come back to the Mother Colbe. She will forgive you. She will warm your cold heart. She will chase away your fears of the boogeyman Satan. She will love you Colbe and hold you to her breast.

Don't ever quote Bible verses to me Colbe or tell me to come back to your messed up church. I got the Divine Mother. The true Divine parent. I got it all.




LunaKat is using my word "nonsense" but what she said in the underlined is
soooo believable and soooo specific. Who is the Goddess? You don't have
a name for her? So, this no name Goddess, a person can hear her heartbeat
in the earth? I've never heard it, no one has.

By whose authority do you believe what you do? No one is falling for it. Oh
my gosh, to base your eternal life on zip. It sounds like the agenda pushed today,
The part of sodomy women belong to...man haters so they make God a woman.

Are you one of those?

You came to this world by the Triune God, the masculine Triune God who created
you. No made up no name Goddess created you. This neo-paganism is easy,
no requirements, not even a specific name to pray to. So prayer is out.

Everyone, go back and read the message to Father Melvin. It makes sense.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by LunaKat

Originally posted by colbe
LunaKat is presenting her Protestant belief. Gee, I though she was a neo-Pagan? Fallen away Catholics are bitter about their loss.

Christ established a Church (Matt 16:18) not plural, Churches, denominations and their break aways, non-denominational.

The same Church (singular) who gave the world the Bible. It's historical, there
is a leader, a visible hierarchy and a sacramental system. The Church is not a group of people who can only agree on one thing, that the Bible is their authority and differ on everything else. Over and over in the Gospel is the call for "oneness" of belief.

Luna says respect a person's belief but attacks the true faith, Roman Catholicism
here and in most all of her posts, too much to underline here with the continual
put down of which isn't true. So her last line is not sincere. Which is it
LunaKat, a pagan Goddess is your God, good old "mother earth" or is Christ, God, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity your God? And who is believed for 2000 years truly present in the Holy Eucharist.



What is you need now Colbe??? I'm not Protestant or Catholic. What you want credentials or something? I was raised Catholic. Attended two Catholic grammar schools in the Chicagoland area (we moved once to a new area so new Catholic school). Attended Young Life in high school. Nuns were guests in our home for dinner and talk. When I became an adult I left the Catholic church of my own free will. Attended a charismatic Fundamental type Church for two years with my then fiance (married many years ago), we both left that after 2 years. Have been involved in the Dianic Tradition of the Goddess for the last 30 years. Thats Neo-Pagan to you Colbe.

I am not bitter about leaving the Catholic Church. I saw it for what it was. Its a business Colbe. The most successful churches are the ones that make money. I left it because I actually read the Old Testament --ever read it??? And in the Old Testament, that God you follow, would be put in prison for the things he has done or encouraged others to do in his name. His supposed "son" did not erase it. He is only there to lead you to his Father, the one who hates humans and tries to blame someone he calls "Satan" for everything that goes wrong. They got a little vacation spot called "hell" for people in or out of their Church and teachings. Being a Christian doesn't mean you don't go to Hell. All the phony love they pour on to get you to become a Christian and follow these whacked out teachings disappears once you are actually in any of these churches where you'll be reminded every Saturday or Sunday of all the ways you can still go to hell. In fact they know more about hell than God. Tally up the hours and years they spend talking on Satan and hell to the time they spend talking about God or love. You'll see which side of the scale they are on. If you want to learn about Satan go to some kind of a Christian church. You'll learn more than you ever wanted to know. They serve him they do with all their praise of him, Satan, and all the teachings they'll give you on exactly what he likes and doesn't like.

But Colbe despite all that I can still see some people want to attend it. To them it means something. Might not mean squat to me but I can see pain Colbe.. And as much as I differ from their choice their own Church is hurting them. Even a Neo-Pagan like me can understand you shouldn't have sex with children, you shouldn't mistreat women, you shouldn't start wars, you shouldn't rob people and call it charity, you shouldn't take the tiny bit an elderly person gets to live on to make money, you shouldn't watch men, women and children starve and sit in your Vatican or Rome with the finest of everything and go to bed at night on full stomachs letting them suffer when you have the money to help. You shouldn't take peoples churches from them because they don't make enough money and leave them abandoned without a spiritual home to call theirs anymore. Do you need more??? There is lots more Colbe.
By their fruits you will know them.

The Bible is a waste of good paper and a terrible waste of trees.


LunaKat,

You were preaching Protestantism so I called you on it. You denied Christ
established a visible Church with rules and holy rituals to benefit your soul.

You make me smile, the Bible is a waste of trees but you just quoted the
Bible your previous sentence....knowing something by it's fruits. That is
Scriptural.

You can't keep it straight, don't talk Christian and declare yourself neo-Pagan.

You need Christ and His grace to get into Heaven. Jesus said it again in the
message of October 3l, 2011. He said it many, many times in the Gospel.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by colbe

LunaKat is using my word "nonsense" but what she said in the underlined is
soooo believable and soooo specific. Who is the Goddess? You don't have
a name for her? So, this no name Goddess, a person can hear her heartbeat
in the earth? I've never heard it, no one has.

By whose authority do you believe what you do? No one is falling for it. Oh
my gosh, to base your eternal life on zip. It sounds like the agenda pushed today,
The part of sodomy women belong to...man haters so they make God a woman.

Are you one of those?

You came to this world by the Triune God, the masculine Triune God who created
you. No made up no name Goddess created you. This neo-paganism is easy,
no requirements, not even a specific name to pray to. So prayer is out.

Everyone, go back and read the message to Father Melvin. It makes sense.


Oh excuse me, I didn't realize you own the word nonsense now. lol

How much time you got Colbe? You want names of the Goddess? I can give you a whole lot of names she's been known by. Because see Colbe she's been known in most parts of the world and people called her by their own tongue where they honored her. She wasn't a God of just one area like yours Colbe. Yours came out of Israel. She sprung up everywhere and was known everywhere at one time or another and even though your church tried to get rid of her and burn everything related to her we still have a lot of accounts of her and her stories. You didn't burn everything Colbe. She didn't die Colbe. She's alive
And she's everything you see. You see Colbe, the Goddess unlike your phony God is not separated from us. She's not in some Heaven looking down deciding who sins and doesn't sin. She's everywhere.

I need an authority to believe what I believe? Wow have they got you by the ...... I don't need an authority Colbe to find the Divine. I was never separated from Her. I don't have to go looking. She's always been with me. Sorry you don't have a god like that.

My eternal life is just fine. Don't you go worrying about things you don't understand. Don't worry your pretty little head.

Well if I was a man hater I guess that would be news to my husband, my brother, my male friends. But they would also tell you that I don't take carp (you didn't like the way I said it before with your fragile ears and all). Oh and thats another thing Colbe. The Goddess doesn't require me to be all nicey nice to people who are ignorant. I know you got that whole phony thing going on in your religion.

Are you squealing like a pig yet Colbe cause you should be



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by LunaKat

Originally posted by colbe
LunaKat is presenting her Protestant belief. Gee, I though she was a neo-Pagan? Fallen away Catholics are bitter about their loss.

Christ established a Church (Matt 16:18) not plural, Churches, denominations and their break aways, non-denominational.

The same Church (singular) who gave the world the Bible. It's historical, there
is a leader, a visible hierarchy and a sacramental system. The Church is not a group of people who can only agree on one thing, that the Bible is their authority and differ on everything else. Over and over in the Gospel is the call for "oneness" of belief.

Luna says respect a person's belief but attacks the true faith, Roman Catholicism
here and in most all of her posts, too much to underline here with the continual
put down of which isn't true. So her last line is not sincere. Which is it
LunaKat, a pagan Goddess is your God, good old "mother earth" or is Christ, God, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity your God? And who is believed for 2000 years truly present in the Holy Eucharist.



What is you need now Colbe??? I'm not Protestant or Catholic. What you want credentials or something? I was raised Catholic. Attended two Catholic grammar schools in the Chicagoland area (we moved once to a new area so new Catholic school). Attended Young Life in high school. Nuns were guests in our home for dinner and talk. When I became an adult I left the Catholic church of my own free will. Attended a charismatic Fundamental type Church for two years with my then fiance (married many years ago), we both left that after 2 years. Have been involved in the Dianic Tradition of the Goddess for the last 30 years. Thats Neo-Pagan to you Colbe.

I am not bitter about leaving the Catholic Church. I saw it for what it was. Its a business Colbe. The most successful churches are the ones that make money. I left it because I actually read the Old Testament --ever read it??? And in the Old Testament, that God you follow, would be put in prison for the things he has done or encouraged others to do in his name. His supposed "son" did not erase it. He is only there to lead you to his Father, the one who hates humans and tries to blame someone he calls "Satan" for everything that goes wrong. They got a little vacation spot called "hell" for people in or out of their Church and teachings. Being a Christian doesn't mean you don't go to Hell. All the phony love they pour on to get you to become a Christian and follow these whacked out teachings disappears once you are actually in any of these churches where you'll be reminded every Saturday or Sunday of all the ways you can still go to hell. In fact they know more about hell than God. Tally up the hours and years they spend talking on Satan and hell to the time they spend talking about God or love. You'll see which side of the scale they are on. If you want to learn about Satan go to some kind of a Christian church. You'll learn more than you ever wanted to know. They serve him they do with all their praise of him, Satan, and all the teachings they'll give you on exactly what he likes and doesn't like.

But Colbe despite all that I can still see some people want to attend it. To them it means something. Might not mean squat to me but I can see pain Colbe.. And as much as I differ from their choice their own Church is hurting them. Even a Neo-Pagan like me can understand you shouldn't have sex with children, you shouldn't mistreat women, you shouldn't start wars, you shouldn't rob people and call it charity, you shouldn't take the tiny bit an elderly person gets to live on to make money, you shouldn't watch men, women and children starve and sit in your Vatican or Rome with the finest of everything and go to bed at night on full stomachs letting them suffer when you have the money to help. You shouldn't take peoples churches from them because they don't make enough money and leave them abandoned without a spiritual home to call theirs anymore. Do you need more??? There is lots more Colbe.

By their fruits you will know them.

The Bible is a waste of good paper and a terrible waste of trees.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Colbe is a prime example of why I don't understand how people can follow the Catholic Church. I understand that Jesus is a positive guiding force in peoples lives and many people need that.W hat I don't understand is how people can follow a church that has perverted teachings that in essance are pure. I don't know if Jesus was actually real and walked the earth or if he is simply a story retold in a different light with a different name. There are two things I am certain of. One Jesus was a man nothing more he was not devine and not god. No more than you or me. We are all God and children of him. The mirricales he was said to have done are possible for anyone with the right knowledge and ability just ask Autowrench. Some of the stories are just plain false, exagerated,or retold pagan stories.The other thing I am cerain of is that if he were here today he would do everything in his power to tear down these houses of worship especialy the Catholic Church. If he had any idea that he would have inspired such a corrupt organization like that he may have just stayed silent back then.

Spirituality is a good thing but organized religion is destructive with all its dogma. Mankind would be so much further today if churches did not exist. Search for truth and harmany, peace and wellbeing don't put your faith and life into dogma and fear of damnation by a church. They can not save you or fullfill you only a well lived life in service of bettering yourself and those around you can bring true peace.

Most religions are cut from the same cloth yet they war with each other how can any one of them be right over the other if they only bring destruction to there brother.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by colbe

LunaKat,

You were preaching Protestantism so I called you on it. You denied Christ
established a visible Church with rules and holy rituals to benefit your soul.

You make me smile, the Bible is a waste of trees but you just quoted the
Bible your previous sentence....knowing something by it's fruits. That is
Scriptural.

You can't keep it straight, don't talk Christian and declare yourself neo-Pagan.

You need Christ and His grace to get into Heaven. Jesus said it again in the
message of October 3l, 2011. He said it many, many times in the Gospel.



Colbe you call it preaching whatever you want Colbe. Unlike you and your religion I don't have a narrow view. I can explore anything. I can study any peoples religious stories. When I tell you something like "you know them by their fruits" I'm purposely speaking to you with something you will understand. You seem unable to grasp anything outside of your own faith. So I have to dummy down.

I'm already in "Heaven" Colbe. Sorry you are still waiting to get there. But as for my eternal life, again, don't worry yourself over things you don't understand.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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LunaKat and all reading this thread. Jesus is the "light'...He is the way.
Turn to Him. He loves you more than anyone on this earth ever will be able to....
absolutely!

A message from Our Lord's mother, Mary, to a prayer group in the Midwest.
They meet to pray outside, close to the hospital in a small town east of St. Louis, Pana, Illinois.

~ ~ ~

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2011


MY DEAR DEAR PRECIOUS LITTLE CHILDREN,

YOU HAVE ENTERED THE LAST DAYS OF YOUR ADVENT. FOR MOST YOU ARE CONCERNED
FOR THE GOOD OR FAILURES OF THIS TIME. MY CHILDREN, GATHER YOUR FAILURES
AND SET THEM ASIDE, BUT GIVE OVER ALL ELSE, YOUR SUFFERINGS, YOUR OFFERINGS,
YOUR ALL. YOU CANNOT BE FOUND CONTEMPTIBLE BECAUSE OF YOUR FAILURES, EACH
ONE CAUSED FOR YOU DISTRESS AND BROUGHT YOU BEFORE GOD SEEKING FORGIVENESS.
YOUR OFFERINGS WERE MADE FROM THE HEART AND YOUR HEART IS FULL OF LOVE FOR
THE LORD. DO YOU SEE THAT YOU HAVE MADE THIS ADVENT THE BEST YOU COULD,
ONLY DESIRING THAT IT COULD BE BETTER. SO I SAY TO YOU NOW, MAKE EACH DAY A
GIFT OF HEART AND SOUL. BE OPEN TO ALL GOD HAS FOR YOU AND LET THE LIGHT OF
JESUS BE A GLOW IN YOU.

IT IS BECAUSE YOU CARRY THIS LIGHT, REFLECT THIS LIGHT THAT I DESIRE THAT ON
THE OCCASION OF THE CELEBRATION OF JESUS’ BIRTH YOU REMAIN WITH YOUR LOVED
ONES OR THOSE WHO SEEK THE LIGHT. YOU WILL BE A WITNESS TO THE LOVE AND
MERCY THAT IS MY SON. LET YOUR HEARTS BE OPEN TO ALL THOSE IN YOUR COMPANY.
I WILL BE IN YOUR PRESENCE THAT EACH HOME BE FILLED WITH LOVE AND JOY
BEFITTING A KING. I TELL YOU THAT YOUR GIFTS WILL BE EVIDENT AND ALL WILL
SHARE IN THEM. BE CONTENT, BE JOYFUL - BE FOR EACH OTHER.

LITTLE CHILDREN, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, BUT YOU WILL ESPECIALLY FEEL MY
PRESENCE AS YOU HONOR JESUS. AND NOW I PLACE ON YOU MY BLESSING IN THE NAME
OF THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. AS YOU RECEIVE THE BLESSING OF
CHRIST, PRAISE HIM, THANK HIM - NOW AND FOREVER.


www.petalsfromHeaven.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Isis and Horus, Mary and Jesus

stellarhousepublishing.com...


www.shepherdsofarcadia.com...

www.isisoasis.org...

www.hermitagemuseum.org...

i4.ytimg.com...



yep looks like the same old sun god myth to me.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by LunaKat

Originally posted by colbe

LunaKat,

You were preaching Protestantism so I called you on it. You denied Christ
established a visible Church with rules and holy rituals to benefit your soul.

You make me smile, the Bible is a waste of trees but you just quoted the
Bible your previous sentence....knowing something by it's fruits. That is
Scriptural.

You can't keep it straight, don't talk Christian and declare yourself neo-Pagan.

You need Christ and His grace to get into Heaven. Jesus said it again in the
message of October 3l, 2011. He said it many, many times in the Gospel.



Colbe you call it preaching whatever you want Colbe. Unlike you and your religion I don't have a narrow view. I can explore anything. I can study any peoples religious stories. When I tell you something like "you know them by their fruits" I'm purposely speaking to you with something you will understand. You seem unable to grasp anything outside of your own faith. So I have to dummy down.

I'm already in "Heaven" Colbe. Sorry you are still waiting to get there. But as for my eternal life, again, don't worry yourself over things you don't understand.


I worry LunaKat cause I care,

Another insult, the "fruit" of neo-Pagan non-name Goddess worship. How come you can't give her name?
You didn't reply about my question for following a feminine God? It's not because you are lesbian?
God forbid (literally).

This isn't Heaven. It's so obvious why.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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The Goddess is known by many names because many lands honored her. Here is a sample for the curious.

Spider Woman (Native American)
Kuan Yin (China and other lands)
Sun Woman (Australia)
Danu (Ireland and other lands)
Demeter and Persephone (Greece)
Lilith (Middle East)
Shakti (India and other lands)
Isis (Egypt)
Freya (Scandinavian)
Pele (Hawaiian)
Artemis Diana (Greek)
Guadalupe (Mexico)
Bridget (Ireland)
Changing Woman (Navajo people)
Kali (India)
Shekina (Hebrew)
Hecate (Turkey)
Cerridwen (Ireland)
Maya (India)
Juno Lucina (Italy)
Lamia (North Africa)
Tonantzin (Mexico)
Epona (Wales)
Bast (Egypt)
Akewa (Argentina)
Oshun (West Africa)
Spider Grandmother (Native American)
Athena (Greece)
Copper Woman (Pacific Northwest)
Baba Yaga (Russia)
Benten (Japan)
Habondia (Italy)
Kwannon (Japan)
White Buffalo Calf Woman (Native American)
Amaterasu (Japan)
Hina (Hawaiian)

That should get you started Colbe. You can look them up yourself. The Goddess is everywoman. She's your Mother, your sister, the feminine part of yourself. She's your Grandmother. She's the neighbor lady that lives down the street, the woman you know that is expecting or raising children, the young girl playing outside. She's the man that sees when you're hurting and lends you support. The man that cares for his community. The man that nurtures his children.

She's also the moon and the stars and the sun. She's the air you breathe, the ground you walk on, the animals that share this earth with you. She's the grain. She's everything Colbe..wherever your eyes land there She is.

She is not separate. Never was. Separation is a lie. She was with you before you were born and with you always. She's inside you.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by colbe

I worry LunaKat cause I care,

Another insult, the "fruit" of neo-Pagan non-name Goddess worship. How come you can't give her name?
You didn't reply about my question for following a feminine God? It's not because you are lesbian?
God forbid (literally).

This isn't Heaven. It's so obvious why.


I trust you see the list. You must have posted this while I was making a list for you. You don't care about me Colbe or anyone. You care about Colbe..whether or not Colbe preaches enough, converts enough souls to get into "heaven."

What was your question about following a feminine God? I don't know which question you are referring to.

Now you want my sexual orientation? Fine. Heterosexual. But I think women are so very beautiful and to say I love women is just true. Women have such good hearts. I adore women. Make of it what you will.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Your worshipful attitude toward the mother (lower case for her, because she is not God or Jesus, Lord or Saviour) of Jesus, marks you as a heretic. You call yourself a Christian, and yet you allow strange gods before Him... I wonder how many lies you can tell yourself before you collapse beneath them, and how many you can be told before you rebuke them.

In either case, preaching AT these people (which is, allow me to inform you please, what you are doing) is not going to help your position Colbe. Preaching TO people is different to preaching AT them. Preaching to a person is something that you may consider yourself fit to do, when you can tell the difference for yourself.

And if you must insist on giving water to those who are clearly not thirsting, do not place your papist poison in it to spite them. There is little less Christian an act you could perform, short of carving the mark of the beast upon them with your own hand.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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I can't sit at this computer all day Colbe. I do have other things I need to do today. I gave you a list of Goddesses. I expect you to study each one as I have studied the books of your Bible. Then you can ask questions.

After reading your utter nonsense, I can pretty safely say I make a better Christian than you do and I'm not even trying. If you should be concerned for anyone's soul it should be your own. You're the one in danger here Colbe. No one else. You might live your whole life never knowing any form of God. You know a lot of verses but I think thats to compensate for what you really don't know which is any God. Your God = words. Thats all. Put the book down and start to experience something. It would do you good. Find it even if you had no money for books.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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God is not a "she." Wicca is from Satan. Scary, don't lose your soul autowrench. These are the end of times. And in every time, no one knows their last day.


Actually, that is from a mind that does not know. A Goddess has been worshiped for thousands of years, we Wiccans didn't just make Her up, and now that we are on the subject, let me ask you, and remember, Christian, your own God said what I hold true here on Earth, he holds true in Heaven.

Do you have a Mother?
Did your Father give birth to you?
How was this unnatural act accomplished?

Diana of the
Ephesians (Acts 19:35) was often called, "The Queen of Heaven" in Early Religious writings. Ashtaroth has been shown to be the wife of the Biblical God. There is no Satan, the Church made him up to scare you, and he still does scare you. There is no ultimate author of Evil is there was such a thing, your God could most easily destroy it, could he not? If you say he could not, that of course negates God, you do know that?

What if I said the same things to you? That only the Goddess was real, and your God was actually Satan? Ever heard of the Leviathan?

Here is a description of the Leviathan:

"Out of his [Leviathan] nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth." (Job 41:20)

And here is description of Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament:

"There went up a smoke out of his [Yahweh] nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it." (Psalm 18:8, 2 Samuel 22:9)

"Leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; the dragon that is in the sea." (Isaiah 27:1)

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world [through Christianity]: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (Revelation 12:9)

Now I ask you, colbe, this is taken from your own book, I take it you have read it, does this mean anything at all to you? Do you see how this Satan really is now?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by LunaKat
The Goddess is known by many names because many lands honored her. Here is a sample for the curious.

Spider Woman (Native American)
Kuan Yin (China and other lands)
Sun Woman (Australia)
Danu (Ireland and other lands)
Demeter and Persephone (Greece)
Lilith (Middle East)
Shakti (India and other lands)
Isis (Egypt)
Freya (Scandinavian)
Pele (Hawaiian)
Artemis Diana (Greek)
Guadalupe (Mexico)
Bridget (Ireland)
Changing Woman (Navajo people)
Kali (India)
Shekina (Hebrew)
Hecate (Turkey)
Cerridwen (Ireland)
Maya (India)
Juno Lucina (Italy)
Lamia (North Africa)
Tonantzin (Mexico)
Epona (Wales)
Bast (Egypt)
Akewa (Argentina)
Oshun (West Africa)
Spider Grandmother (Native American)
Athena (Greece)
Copper Woman (Pacific Northwest)
Baba Yaga (Russia)
Benten (Japan)
Habondia (Italy)
Kwannon (Japan)
White Buffalo Calf Woman (Native American)
Amaterasu (Japan)
Hina (Hawaiian)

That should get you started Colbe. You can look them up yourself. The Goddess is everywoman. She's your Mother, your sister, the feminine part of yourself. She's your Grandmother. She's the neighbor lady that lives down the street, the woman you know that is expecting or raising children, the young girl playing outside. She's the man that sees when you're hurting and lends you support. The man that cares for his community. The man that nurtures his children.

She's also the moon and the stars and the sun. She's the air you breathe, the ground you walk on, the animals that share this earth with you. She's the grain. She's everything Colbe..wherever your eyes land there She is.

She is not separate. Never was. Separation is a lie. She was with you before you were born and with you always. She's inside you.


Which name do you worship and how do you honor and worship the name
you pray to?

So, if I am sitting on the ground, I am sitting on my God? I never had the desire to worship dirt, I don't know why or looking up, worship the stars. By whose authority do you know she is a "she?" I have asked, where is evidence of the miraculous? You have never give an example, even one.

Don't you see, the true God is personal, a person, a father, a brother, a redeemer,
a sanctifier. Where is the ongoing revelation from the list? Can you post
a message from her? Why are you drawn to such general..."nothing." How do
you feel close, loved by this woman "goddess" with many names?

A lot of questions, sorry...I am really interested in the proof of this, yesterday and today "living" God? Let us have some quotes of love that she has spoken, to whom and dates would be good.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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nice opinions.....now back to our world at hand.....
jesus, if real would like us to get back to doing good...learning good things....etc
he really wouldnt care if we get it or not so long as we try to better our world.....

if he is...cool we have all the answers we need....
if not.....whats the lesson?...what good can we learn from his "truth"
all else is nonsense.....

we are as one when we lose meaning for one thing or another and see the unity of all thought, creation as eachother upon ourselves.

Jesus.......lets get it together people....we are all here now....lets learn some stuff....come on.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by LunaKat
The Goddess is known by many names because many lands honored her. Here is a sample for the curious.

Spider Woman (Native American)
Kuan Yin (China and other lands)
Sun Woman (Australia)
Danu (Ireland and other lands)
Demeter and Persephone (Greece)
Lilith (Middle East)
Shakti (India and other lands)
Isis (Egypt)
Freya (Scandinavian)
Pele (Hawaiian)
Artemis Diana (Greek)
Guadalupe (Mexico)
Bridget (Ireland)
Changing Woman (Navajo people)
Kali (India)
Shekina (Hebrew)
Hecate (Turkey)
Cerridwen (Ireland)
Maya (India)
Juno Lucina (Italy)
Lamia (North Africa)
Tonantzin (Mexico)
Epona (Wales)
Bast (Egypt)
Akewa (Argentina)
Oshun (West Africa)
Spider Grandmother (Native American)
Athena (Greece)
Copper Woman (Pacific Northwest)
Baba Yaga (Russia)
Benten (Japan)
Habondia (Italy)
Kwannon (Japan)
White Buffalo Calf Woman (Native American)
Amaterasu (Japan)
Hina (Hawaiian)

That should get you started Colbe. You can look them up yourself. The Goddess is everywoman. She's your Mother, your sister, the feminine part of yourself. She's your Grandmother. She's the neighbor lady that lives down the street, the woman you know that is expecting or raising children, the young girl playing outside. She's the man that sees when you're hurting and lends you support. The man that cares for his community. The man that nurtures his children.

She's also the moon and the stars and the sun. She's the air you breathe, the ground you walk on, the animals that share this earth with you. She's the grain. She's everything Colbe..wherever your eyes land there She is.

She is not separate. Never was. Separation is a lie. She was with you before you were born and with you always. She's inside you.


Which name do you worship and how do you honor and worship the name
you pray to?

So, if I am sitting on the ground, I am sitting on my God? I never had the desire to worship dirt, I don't know why or looking up, worship the stars. By whose authority do you know she is a "she?" I have asked, where is evidence of the miraculous? You have never give an example, even one.

Don't you see, the true God is personal, a person, a father, a brother, a redeemer,
a sanctifier. Where is the ongoing revelation from the list? Can you post
a message from her? Why are you drawn to such general..."nothing." How do
you feel close, loved by this woman "goddess" with many names?

A lot of questions, sorry...I am really interested in the proof of this, yesterday and today "living" God? Let us have some quotes of love that she has spoken, to whom and dates would be good.


I got about 15 min. here and then dinner. I'm bouncing around between things I have to do here at home and answering your posts. Colbe I gotta say, you are one lazy man. I gave you a list of Goddesses to study. Your questions could be answered if you would study them. I did not comment on your Bible till I read it and even then I don't get involved in too many threads about the Bible. It doesn't really concern me except that this thread is about Pagan also.

Which name do I worship? I don't really know what that could possibly matter to you. But I tend to worship Kuan Yin, Lakshmi from India and occasionally Guadalupe (but not in the Christian form of Guadalupe although there are Christo-Pagans but I am not one of them). I am also drawn to Isis strongly but I don't actively worship her. How I worship.. I get quiet in my mind Colbe. Then I may chant to the Goddess -- like Buddhist chant. I tell her whats going on in my life and I listen. I tell her people I care about who are in trouble and I listen for sparks of ideas how to help them. I walk in nature when I can and its a meditative walk. I look to Her for help with my pets. I tell Her everything Colbe. I'm not afraid of my Goddess. I watch Her through the seasons and I try to learn the lesson of each season. I breathe with Her Colbe.

Again with you asking about authority. That bounces right off me. Do you read what I wrote you before? I need no authority. You want authority so you have someone to blame if it doesn't go right. Thats why you need priests and Popes. You refuse to take and be responsible for your own spiritual path. Some need to be guided that way. I need no authority. I am responsible for my own spirituality and what comes of it.

Evidence of the miraculous is all around you. Open your eyes. You didn't get here on your own. You are connected as we all are to all of life. You can't live a minute in separation. Everything is miraculous Colbe. All of life is a miracle.

You want personal miracles? You first tell me how you define "miracle." It varies person to person. What I consider a miracle you may not. For one thing, if you don't know that you are surrounded by miracles pretty much anything I tell you you will dismiss. You take it all for granted.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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I ran out of room so this is a continuation to Colbe. I have been what you would call "praying" which I just call talking with the Divine for healing of a health issue in my life. After more than 5 years it is starting to resolve. My doctor said it never would. I got a ways to go yet but She always made me feel not to give up. I felt led to sources that gave me information and gave me hope that this would heal. I have Graves disease.

I ask the Goddess to help me stay in touch with my brother and my Dad and my Grandparents and some pets I lost. I miss them all terribly. Its the hardest thing in my life. I have had some after death communications that I believe were from them. She reassures me on the inside that despite what other people say the love I feel for them gets to them. And theirs to me.

I have seen miracles with my pets.

Its a miracle I wake up each morning. I have been through hell Colbe. Your hell scares me not at all. I count a lot of things as miracles. Things you probably never would. I sense a very ungrateful spirit in you...an angry one. One that uses religion to vent anger. I tell you these things, not because you deserve them but because I'm grateful. I have no idea what kind of miracles you are looking for. I can't call lightning to appear for you from the sky. I can't make a dead plant come back. I can't part the seas. I doubt you can either. But I can take the basic things of life, count that the Goddess will drop me encouragement or hope or information or skill and use that.

If you want more that then I suggest you look to temples where the Goddess is still very much honored. Look in India. Look for temples to Lakshmi or look for temples to Kuan Yin people report the miraculous all the time. Guadalupe gives modern day miracles as well. If you want Goddess miracles they are out there but you gotta dump this attitude of yours to ever experience any.



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