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Originally posted by Malcher
reply to post by Pauligirl
Nothing can be derived from that image. You should have read your own link. I forget some of what was said there. Not allowing women to join which i read someplace else but can't remember right now.
Franz Cumont was the first scholar to identify similarities between Christianity and Mithraism. Cumont argued that the two religions shared an attraction to nature that made it quite easy for Christian artists to borrow iconographical references from Mithraism. So, when one looks at Christian sarcophagi, mosaics, and miniatures from the third to the fifth centuries, one can see images of the Heavens, the Earth, the Ocean, the Sun, the Moon, the Planets, signs of the Zodiac, the Winds, the Seasons, and the Elements. Cumont argued that even though the church was opposed to the pagan practice of worshipping the cosmic cycle, these images nonetheless made onto Christian artistic impressions. This occurred, he continued, because the Christian artists made “a few alterations in costume and attitude transformed a pagan scene into a Christian picture”. Cumont cited the images of Moses as an example of this phenomenon. For instance, when early Christian artists depicted their rendition of Moses striking Mount Horeb (Sinai) with his staff to release drinking water from the mountain, their inspiration was an earlier Mithraic reference to Mithras shooting arrows at rocks to cause the waters to shoot up.
Another example of Mithraic iconography incorporated into Christian art is the scene of Mithras ascending into the heavens identified by M.J. Vermaseren. According to Vermaseren’s interpretation of Mithraism, after Mithras had accomplished a series of miraculous deeds, it was believed that he was carried into the heavens by a chariot. In various Mithraic depictions, horses driven by the pagan sun god, Helios-Sol, draw the chariot. In other instances, a chariot of fire belonging to Helios is being led into the water and is surrounded by the pagan god Oceanus and sea nymphs. When Christian artists wanted to use imagery to portray the soul’s ascension into heaven on sarcophagi, they used the biblical scene of Elijah being led into heaven by chariots and horses that were on fire. Vermaseren thus argued that the inspiration for this image came from the representations of Mithras’ ascent into the heavens by Helios’ chariot. The sun god provided inspiration for the flames on Elijah’s chariot and the Jordan River is personified by a figure resembling the god Oceanus. The parallel is perpetuated by the adoption of the Mithras’ halo, representing the sun, in later representations of Apollo and in Christian images symbolising god- or sainthood.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Using the rewritten bible as some kind of evidence for ignoring historical fact... hmm, I see what you're trying to do, but you fail.
Historians around the world know that the Christian faith adopted the Pagan holidays and adapted existing beliefs to suit their purpose in order to convince the natives of whichever land they were in to follow them. This is not some kind of myth, it's recorded historical fact.
Once again, the extremist brain washed Christian faculty embraces ignorance in the face of historical fact *look over there, shiny shiny!*
“. . . for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers” (John 10:4b-5)
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by FugitiveSoul
Speaking of Easter(Ishtar, Astarte, Isis, Semiramis) and immaculate conceptions, eggs, rabbits, and so on.
Semiramis claimed that she was immaculately conceived.
• She taught that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full.
• She further claimed that she came down from the moon in a giant moon egg that fell into the Euphrates River.
• This was to have happened at the time of the first full moon after the spring equinox.
• Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."
• Ishtar soon became pregnant and claimed that it was the rays of the sun-god Baal that caused her to conceive. • The son that she brought forth was named Tammuz.
• Tammuz was noted to be especially fond of rabbits, and they became sacred in the ancient religion, because Tammuz was believed to be the son of the sun-god, Baal. Tammuz, like his supposed father, became a hunter.
• The day came when Tammuz was killed by a wild pig.
• Queen Ishtar told the people that Tammuz was now ascended to his father, Baal, and that the two of them would be with the worshippers in the sacred candle or lamp flame as Father, Son and Spirit.
Easter And this is from a "christian" source. There is much more in the pdf.
This is ancient babylonian history from the time of Nimrod. Nope. No similarities here. None at all.
Why does anyone who believes in Jesus Christ think you have to be a Christian to get into the kingdom of heaven? Where in the bible does it say you must join a religion called Christianity?
Have you read up on the Council of Nicea? One of the arguments they had was deciding whether Jesus should be divine or not?
Jesus's teachings are also in the Koran, does that mean I should be a Muslim and not a Christian?
Anyhow it is true that the pagans actually copy'd alot of things from the biblical events that took place in opposition and not the other way round. Paganism and other false religions are a deception from Lucifer. Christianity is not a religion and I can prove that in 2 ways as I will explain.
Furthermore the Latin word from which the English word "religion" is derived means "to bind up." Jesus did not come to bind us up in rules and regulations or rituals of devotion, but to set us free to be man as God intended.
If you read the Koran it is clear that they do not worship the same GOD as the one of the Bible. They worship a false god which makes them idolaters. They are not covered by the blood of the lamb, there for they will go to hell if they die in their sins. Muslims also deny the divinity of Christ and say that he wasn't the son of God but rather a mere prophet.