posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 07:15 PM
Good post OP, we need more of a true libertarian left presence on ATS.
Originally posted by thehoneycomb
Socialism has resulted in failure every time.
There is no precedent to base that claim on, because there have been no socialist countries. The Russian socialist revolution failed before it even
started, it was a republic with limited democracy, and a state controlled-capitalist economy. China has always been a nationalist state, with a
capitalist economy. America is a republic, with a 'stealth state' (lol) controlled capitalist economy.
If you can show me ONE country that has worker owned and controlled labour system
then I will be corrected.
Good luck in your search, because you will need it.
It is not to bad mouth socialism, it is to point out that it does not work.
All you are pointing out is your failure to understand what socialism is, again.
Socialist ownership of the means of production is ownership by all workers. Capitalists cease to exist and workers cease to be their
Under socialism you are the owner. Under libertarian socialism
there is no government/state, but directly democratic worker controlled
councils, organizations, unions. The term depends on your version of 'anarcho-socialism'. For example 'anarcho-syndicalism' is stateless socialism
through labour unions, IWW 'wobblies' etc.
They are all versions of stateless socialism, anarchism. 'Libertarian' came from the French anarchist,
"Anarchism is stateless socialism" Mikhail Bakunin
edit on 12/2/2011 by ANOK because: typo