In a small attempt to convince you I am not trolling, I will try to be as clear and concise as possible concerning my points, goals and intention with
this thread. I have no wish for there to be any hateful or disrespectful posts from one side or the other, ATS is a place for everyone to share there
ideas in a constructive, informative and hopefully enlightening way with one another and I hope this happens within this thread.
Firstly, let me start by stating my position as it would seem that some here see me as "hating" gay people, some see me as being a "religious zealot"
and some people just think I am homophobic. I am in point of fact, none of those things. I don't hate anyone, if I did, I can promise you that gay
people would be last on my list. I am religious but I don't claim to know who or what God is, just that he exists and I don't think that "he" hates
gay people either. I am definitely not homophobic, I have a very good friend of 12 years who is very much openly gay and we get drunk together and
hang out all the time, one of many as I am in the restaurant industry.
Now, to the meat of the thread, I think there are three main points I want to get across here, they are simple points but seemingly incredibly
difficult for anyone to agree upon and I think the reason why is because there are so many factors that are involved, those being, morality, religion
and point of view. Those three factors combined can make for very compelling feelings either for or against any topic being discussed. Lets get too
1.) Gay marriage - Should it be allowed or should it not be allowed?
1.) My answer: At first I thought that it slapped organized religion in the face just to do it. Upon further contemplation I realized that we are all
slaves of the state and on an every increasing basis, terms do not matter, it is without question another means of government control and more revenue
into the machine. Furthermore, I see no reason at all why people should not be able to be married or to have unions with each other if they wish too.
Adults in my country, America should be able to decide this for themselves and there choice should be exactly that without infringement. That is what
any free society should afford and with that said, I will retract my previous arguments about gay marriage and happily say I was wrong.
2.) Gay rights - Is that even a real thing?
2.) My answer: Gay rights are not legitimate. Gay people have existed since the dawn of man and are in the class of "sub culture". Being gay is and
will always be a sexual preference and that said there is no such thing as separate rights per say. There is the argument about gay marriage being a
gay right but that is a misconception. A right by rule of natural law would assume that it is your right as a human being and not derived from the
state. Marriage is nothing but a license granted by the state not a civil right. Gays should have the same human and civil rights as any other
American, there is no clause for sexual preference. There are no gay rights, there are just........ Rights as afforded to us by our Constitution.
3.) Gay adoption - Seriously?
3.) My answer: The world in it's present state is chaotic at best and while I will fully state that I believe that two people of the same sex can
raise a child, love them and be "good" parents, I honestly don't feel like that is healthy for the child, either in the early or the latter years. The
cold, hard fact of the matter is, the coupling of two people of the same sex is not natural and children should not be subjected too it, that is why
men can not have children with men and women can not conceive with a women. A little thing called "propagation of the species" defines this point of
view. We can't very well let our children be pre disposed to a lifestyle while they are impressionable that is not "normal" and by normal I mean it in
the sense of propagation of the species, that is not the way and is not in the best interests of our children.
Lets look at a couple facts, take from this what you will and even if you need to be plugged into the new age idea of love, acceptance and we are all
one, or... whatever, here are some cold hard numbers that say your just plain wrong.
The average ratio from several studies are that 9.56% of men are homosexual and 4.75% of women are homosexual.
Does that seem like a large percentage of the population too you? I can tell you that it is the vocal majority but that percentage of people do not a
new gay revolution make. The numbers can be plus or minus %5 percent and those people have nothing to be ashamed of or be sorry for, I applaud
difference in the population, I would just argue that they stopped acting like it's totally normal or 50/50, it is not.
What happens when you apply this stat, what you must understand about this is that it is very subjective but the science behind it is very sound, thus
you must take into account the above polls of "occasional" homosexual activity.
The results of these two studies suggested that in any given year up to 30% of Americans complain of mental health disorder symptoms, and that up to
50% of Americans would experience mental health symptoms at some point in their lives.
Be gay, be gay all you want, enter into contracts with your rogue government to achieve "marriage". Hold hands, kiss in public, spread your all is
love and love is all message and be happy! The one thing I ask is that you keep our kids out of it, they don't belong too you and they never will.
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