posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Tearman
reply to post by fxmodels
Hi. Are there people at MUFON who are interested in UFOs primarily as psychological or sociological phenomena, or is it expected that members believe
in the ET hypothesis for at least some UFO activity?
I don't know if you have any influence on the titling of these shows, but the inclusion of the word "Truth" always makes me reluctant to give the
material the time of day. "Truth" implies that there is only one interpretation and that there is nothing more to learn.
I am interested in hearing about the unexplained cases you referred to in your opening post. I have of course seen a lot of "unexplainable" cases,
but how many cases can't be chalked up to "insufficient information", and how many out of those imply extraterrestrial activity?
I still haven't seen any case that I thought couldn't plausibly be explained as misidentification, hysteria, fantasy, hoax, or some combination
edit on 2-12-2011 by Tearman because: (no reason given)
Some of the unexplained cases may yet be explainable, we just dont have enough data at this point to provide an adequate explanation. My operational
procedure is if I cannot unearth enough data to convince ME that it is explainable, I am not going to say it is explainable. Such is the case of the
Belgian Triangle. Yes, hoaxers created a flying model after the incidents... It was a small model. The craft seen though were much larger. Most people
wont mistake a model for a triangular UFO IF it is extremely large and over the trees. Such was the case of my own sister two years ago.
Preface: She does not believe in UFOs, even less in extraterrestrials, (some people draw the line between the two!) but concedes life elsewhere is
"possible" as she has put it.
But, one morning at 2am or so she was awakened by a loud humming sound. She went to get up and noticed it was pitch black.. As in, no power in the
house. She looked outside to see if streetlights were on and they were not. Adjoining towns had power and the sky was dimly lit with a Sodium Vapor
Lamp light domes from the nearby towns. But it looked to her as our hometown, Plainville CT, was completely dark. It turned out later that it was.
She looked for any sign of light when suddenly in her peripheral vision she saw something UP above in the sky through the window. What she described
is as follows. She saw against the Sodium Vapor lights that permeated the sky from the nearby towns, a DARK BLACK void, triangular in shape, with red
glowing lights at the tips of each vertex. She took great pains to describe the lights. She said they did NOT protrude below the 'thing' as she
called it, but were simply flat against it yet glowed red. She spent about 4 minutes describing these red lights in fact becuase they struck her as
very odd. She watched it move across the treetops right OVER her house, and continue to the neighbors property and then go over those trees until it
disappeared from view. She is very matter of fact about the sighting. She doesnt know what it was and doesnt lose sleep over it either because she
just figures its something of ours flying around. Could it be one of ours? Maybe... But I do not believe it is the TR3B ... It just didnt fit the
So that is anecdotal evidence of course because she didnt take a picture or video but coming from my sister who is NOT a believer, this is valuable
for that reason. She has no vested interest in misleading anyone about it.
As far as people viewing UFOs as a psychological or sociological phenomenon, I do not know of anyone at MUFON who researches that avenue. The reason
is that most of the people I deal with in MUFON here are scientists who have worked at places like Dryden Research Center, Lawrence Livermore and
other labs. These people bring arrays of instrumentation out into the field to try to confirm the existence of extraterrestrial craft, examine
potential landing sites... No one in that particular group believes that UFOs are imagined in any way. Personally, when I do my Photo and Video
Analysis talks around the country, one of the things I am clear about is that I am not a debunker. I dont subscribe to the
UFOs-as-psychological-phenomenon theory... I draw from another talk I do on Exoplanets in fact to provide high statistical probability that Aliens
exist. It is actually nearly a certainty. The number of habitable planets in our galaxy is estimated, based on the surveys so far of nearby stars and
with extrapolation to the general stellar population, to be nearly one BILLION just in our galaxy alone. So there are many civilizations out there in
my view. With a mere 1000 years of lead time over us in development an alien race could have already been plying the space between the stars and
looked for other worlds like theirs and perhaps... found US.