"Yogis of Tibet" : Latent Powers Within Humans, page 2

Originally posted by timi0000
Does anyone know any more videos or articles besides the ones posted here that deal with yogis and their abilities? This stuff fascinates me. I'm looking for some kind of yogic technique that I can use to rid myself of addiction and anger. If these monks can do what they do, then my goals can be accomplished too. That is my thinking.

That's exactly what Tibetan Buddhism is all about. It's about training your mind to focus on what you choose to think about, instead of having a mind running wildy out of control like a monkey. They call the untrained mind "monkey mind". You don't have to be Buddhist to use their methods. They call their methods "mind science". It's not religious. You can even substitute your own personal deities in your meditations. It makes no difference in the results.

At first, you may find that it seems like things are getting worse. They're not. It's like you've been in a dark room for a long time. As the light comes on, you may start noticing clutter and dirt that you couldn't see when it was dark. Do not panic. That's perfectly normal. Once you see it, you can do something with it. It's like a stage of development....a rather uncomfortable one. It passes. The room becomes clean and shining....

I don't have any specific recommendations since you've named a piece of the general path of Tibetan Buddhism. You could do a search for a group near you. Or you could search online..try "Buddhism + Addiction" for example.

This site looked cool:
viewonbuddhism.org...

and this one:
the12stepbuddhist.com... ttva-a-purification-meditation-tibetan-10th-step

Namaste'

Originally posted by RainbeauBleu
It's not religious. You can even substitute your own personal deities in your meditations. It makes no difference in the results.

I have to strongly disagree there, if you are following an Buddhist practise of meditation, or "path" and you then add any other dieties or spirits it does have an very very profound impact on the experience, Karma, level of siddhi reached or attainable, and also the "environment" you may have to practise, in the future.

If you are given an empowerment or "lung" to do what is mentioned above, in the practise would involve a very very bad Karma, maybe even Avachi Hell in the next incarnation (the lowest)

However besides that the post is spot on, and some wonderful advice to the questioner,

on That point S+F = (star and flag) for the post/thread. OP (as in old news the OP and OP/ED was the writer of the story)

I would say watch the four noble truths as linked in my previous post, Buddha found that the three things Desire, Ignorance, and Hatred or aversion are the 3 "poisons" that create unhappiness in our life, and all bad results can be traced back to this.

It seems to me that Certainly "desire" is strong in your case with the addiction, which now has become almost automatic behaviour (look at the Hypno NLP Signature below the post many resources to help are found there to)

Also Hatred (anger) is strong, the basic path in an nutshell is as stated to control your mind and thoughts, and run them rather than they running you, to become detached from our negative emotions.

So considering this you might find this particular Path very helpful.

Both Medicine Buddha and Green Tara (brings swift action/compassion help) are very appropiate for you to focus your attention on any "diety" aspect, though best to just meditate, meditate and meditate, become aware of your thoughts, and mind, watch your mind like a guard dog his home.

Below is one of tibetans finest Master "chanters" showing Green Tara.



I couldnt find his medicine Buddha online, on dongle so cant upload so here is another "pure" version



If you look at my sig below Enlightenment Tribe their is also some media there that is helpful very simple and direct approach to meditation and such like guides.

May your desire for what does you harm be cast of, as easy an wet overcoat, and bathe my friend in the inner light within and around you when the clouds of Ignorance Anger and Desire have lifted, and the only thing you crave is enlightenment and the happiness of others.

Om Mani Padme Hum (the Chenrezi mantra of Tibet)

Love
Karma Tashi Tsering

Elf

Originally posted by MischeviousElf

Originally posted by RainbeauBleu
It's not religious. You can even substitute your own personal deities in your meditations. It makes no difference in the results.

I have to strongly disagree there, if you are following an Buddhist practise of meditation, or "path" and you then add any other dieties or spirits it does have an very very profound impact on the experience, Karma, level of siddhi reached or attainable, and also the "environment" you may have to practise, in the future.

If you are given an empowerment or "lung" to do what is mentioned above, in the practise would involve a very very bad Karma, maybe even Avachi Hell in the next incarnation (the lowest)

However besides that the post is spot on, and some wonderful advice to the questioner,



on That point S+F = (star and flag) for the post/thread. OP (as in old news the OP and OP/ED was the writer of the story)

I would say watch the four noble truths as linked in my previous post, Buddha found that the three things Desire, Ignorance, and Hatred or aversion are the 3 "poisons" that create unhappiness in our life, and all bad results can be traced back to this.

It seems to me that Certainly "desire" is strong in your case with the addiction, which now has become almost automatic behaviour (look at the Hypno NLP Signature below the post many resources to help are found there to)

Also Hatred (anger) is strong, the basic path in an nutshell is as stated to control your mind and thoughts, and run them rather than they running you, to become detached from our negative emotions.

So considering this you might find this particular Path very helpful.

Both Medicine Buddha and Green Tara (brings swift action/compassion help) are very appropiate for you to focus your attention on any "diety" aspect, though best to just meditate, meditate and meditate, become aware of your thoughts, and mind, watch your mind like a guard dog his home.

Below is one of tibetans finest Master "chanters" showing Green Tara.

YouTube Link

I couldnt find his medicine Buddha online, on dongle so cant upload so here is another "pure" version

YouTube Link

If you look at my sig below Enlightenment Tribe their is also some media there that is helpful very simple and direct approach to meditation and such like guides.

May your desire for what does you harm be cast of, as easy an wet overcoat, and bathe my friend in the inner light within and around you when the clouds of Ignorance Anger and Desire have lifted, and the only thing you crave is enlightenment and the happiness of others.

Om Mani Padme Hum (the Chenrezi mantra of Tibet)

Love
Karma Tashi Tsering

Elf

He has a lot of podcasts. Which ones should I download? I guess the FREE Hypnosis Hypnotherapy lasting about 28 minutes. I feel like sometimes people can be given too much information, and so they don't know what to focus on. Can you recommend a couple podcasts that you feel are actions you need to put in place, along with the Hypnotherapy, to really effect a change?

reply to post by timi0000

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Fantastic video.

The meditation retreat they talked about around 0:33:00 really intrigues me. To get away from it all, for real, and just have the opportunity to find yourself and decompress from the destructive materialist lifestyles that surround us in the West, is really appealing to me. To find a better way to live.

reply to post by timi0000

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He does have a lot there for,

Maybe start with one that you are attracted to, whichever issue you would like to clear up first.

On Meditation its not difficult at all, just sit down relax and watch feel your breath, Is a very simple one, in the enlightenment tribe below they have a few easy to use books/guides for this.

Love

Elf

reply to post by riffraff

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What you dont get is that there is more than meets the eye in things like these.

The exercise was, I believe, supposed to be a body cleansing exercise. What made you expect chi-balls were going to be flying all over the place?

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

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im disappointed because i don't know his body is any cleaner than before his ritual began. do you? honestly, do you? i've spent tens of hours silently meditating hoping to know there's more to life than what my 5 senses tell me and from what i see these guys don't know any more than i do. as for the chi balls... i wanted proof...no, i would've settled for evidence that there was a legitimate reason to forsake earthly pleasure and dedicate a lifetime to finding the answer.. i guess the reason i was expecting dramatic results was veil of secrecy his cleansing ritual was presented with. i do appreciate your reply, but i really feel like your response was inadequate at best...im just supposed to believe that his body is physiologically different because of some "sacred" exercises?? no physical results, just word of mouth? if i were to believe this yogi just because he said so i would have to believe in voodoo and magic and christianity and all sorts of nonsense. my creator gave me logic and reason. i must apply them.
i eagerly await your response or anyone else who can enlighten this lost soul

reply to post by riffraff

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Stop looking for the answer outside,

Stop computer games,

Realise how much Hollyhood has conditioned you.

If you really spend 10 hours a day meditating you wouldnt write as you did so look at that.

I Have never in all my years of knowing Tai Chi Teachers, Black Belts martial arts, going to the circus even, ever seen an man be able to go from full lotus position and jump head height do as he does an land on his full lotus before.

Can you show were else this is happened before besides Hollywood Magicians.

Personally I found it very impressive.

Then again you say you watched the full documentary?

Were you not impressed with the witnessed melting of rock by one particular Rinpoches Foot of which you were shown footage?

That a man prepares to die, like every one of his lineage (at that level) he makes a sign that this is going to happen.

He is then asked by someone else (the Dalai Lama) to not pass on yet as his teachings are needed.

So he never died he lived a few years more.

Knowledge of death and time, ability to change that

and you are not Impressed?

Melting of solid Rock on the side of an Mountain and you are not impressed?

Why hostility to the message or truth?

Or is it because as many do they go full out into this sort of field for a while but realise it means hard work, no laziness, giving things up, years in retreat to achieve, that we cant buy "superpowers" like in an arcade game, that it may take 30 years of isolation and control of our mind with fasting celibacy etc?

No most in the west are not impressed, and turn back on the wii

Wondering why there is no drive through Karma shops lol.

Kind Regards,
OM Mani Padme Hum

Karma Tashi Tsering

Elf

reply to post by MischeviousElf

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ok, i don't event know where to start. umm, first i can assure you there is no hostility in any of my messages on this thread. anything interpreted as such is projected from the interpeters subconscious. second, i never claimed to spend 10 hours a day meditating. if you actually read what i wrote instead of what you wanted to read, you would see that i've spent 10's of hours( 40 or 50) meditating, trying to have an OOBE, astral project, attain enlightenment, but sadly it always ends in me falling asleep instead. Third, judgemental, much?? if i was as brainwashed by hollywood as much as you say i am would i even spend a second of my time looking for the answers i am looking for? i don't think so. and the lazy jab you threw in there, that was a nice touch really way to keep it classy. fourth, yes the footprint in the rock was pretty impressive.....IF it is legit...there have been much more elaborate hoaxes in the name of religion...Occam's razor says without better proof i would be a fool to believe something so unbelievable.
finally i would like to point out that i am a truth seeker. i keep an open mind so that i might one day find the answers i seek. i asked legitimate questions to anyone that could answer and all i've gotten so far is dogma. i thought buddhism was the opposite of religion... so if anyone can help me without feeling like i've offended stepped on their deity's toes i would truly appreciate it..
gotta go now, im jonesin' for my mcdonald's and nintendo fix

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

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thank you. you make some valid points. i should find some local yogis. im a little embarassed to admit i never thought of that. as far as astral projection is concerned, i have tried it with binaural beats quite a few times, and once i had a very strange experience: one minute i was meditating, trying to leave my body. all of a sudden i was running down a country road and full of ectasy( not the drug) i was weighless and it felt so gooood to run without the weight of my body. i could easily jump 20 feet. suddenly i noticed a small boy and an older woman running behind me trying to tell me something but i was too excited and running and jumping was so much fun!! i was like a pitt bull that had been caged all day. i just had to run and jump. the next second i was back in my room with my headphones on. the thing is, i KNOW more than i know my name that i never lost consciousness. i never went to sleep. i have tried to do this many times since but have failed. i dont know what im doing different.
as far as OOBE's go, i would give ANYTHING to have one, but havent yet. if you can help, i'd love you forever

reply to post by riffraff

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Yes that sounds like either a conscious OBE or a WILD (wake induced lucid dream). Some would argue they are they same thing. What frequency binaural beat were you listening to? Those do help relax the mind.

Intent is your primary concern if you want to AP. Physical relaxation is second, and almost always needs to be accomplished first, but powerful intent can override that. I have difficulty most of the time because I have a wonky back and a bad bed. I can feel I am so close so often to APing, but my attention turns to the discomfort in my spine. Third is persistence, and fourth is book knowledge of the phenomena. The fourth isnt absolutely necessary, but it really helps define the concept and helps keep intent and persistence high.

I like William Buhlman and Robert Bruce with their OBE accounts and some of bruces techniques.

I would personally suggest that you dont worry about the "mechanics" of APing, because at least in my mind, they are completely irrelevant because they change in their nature depending on whose doing the observing. Only if you just cant stand not having a framework to mentally work within, or are just curious what others perspectives are, would I bother with it personally. Do NOT take it as gospel.

Valerian root and passionflower work wonders for me trying to project/LD. Its available at any herb store and is cheap. Some people are unaffected by it, and others its their express ticket to getting out of body.

Reiterating: Intent is absolutely key. If youre only "meh" about doing it, itll be tougher. If you really have a burning desire to do it, itll be that much easier. Physical relaxation is almost as key; you need to be able to relax your muscles so your body isnt nagging you. Keep practicing even when you dont feel youve made progress; youve actually gained experience and will do better the next time. And finally, read up on it. Robert Monroes books I hear are good too, and hes pretty much the pioneer in the West of this. I dont have them personally, but have been meaning to get them.

One last note: The specific method you use is not so important. There are tons of techniques to get out of body, so just pick one that your comfortable with and go with it.

You may even find your a natural and have no trouble exiting at will with just a little practice. Once you can do that... the multiverse, and beyond, really is at your doorstep.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

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thank you again. i believe i was using 528 Hz to meditate to. i use different frequencies but i use that the most. from what i've gathered, 528 is an important number in sacred geometry and i've read that 528 Hz can repair damaged dna (though im not sold on the idea) i'm familiar with monroe, but the others you mentioned are new to me. ill check them out now. and thanks for the passionflower idea too..next time im about, ill pick some up.

reply to post by riffraff

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Youre welcome.

But the binaural beat... 528 is a tone. Not sure if it does anything, but Ive heard the same that its supposed to. But was it a binaural beat that you had to listen to with headphones, each head phone giving emitting a slightly different tone?

Look here: www.youtube.com... you may find that useful.

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