Orinigally posted by Devilwasp
you dont know how bad it is for the genral british army squaddie sminkey, they get 20 rounds apeice. when they go out on patrols they swap flack
jackets with the ones comeing off patrols.
i would rather have a better military than some tourist attraction.
- I have no doubt things can be improved in some areas Devilwasp. I am not claiming everything is perfect.
I am also well aware that complaints about training involving live firing (in each arm of the services) have been made for decades though and are
hardly unique to this gov.....and, in fairness, have not been demonstrated, when it has come to it, to have fatally weakened the capacity of the men
to do the job either, thankfully.
No doubt there are valid criticisms that can be made but only yesterday I came across a story about US families being asked to fund the bullet-proof
(or should that be resistant?) flak jackets of their family in the military to the tune of a discounted $1500 a piece or so.....and that is in the
case of a USA spending so lavishly on defence like it is going out of fashion.
That may be an apocryphal story but the point remains that few operate in such a manner that complaint is unheard of.
Sometimes the complaint itself gains common currency but is based upon ignorance. The problems with Challenger2 for instance, a tank (so our press
would have us believe) so unsuited to the desert that we must suffer heavy losses if it ever came to a shooting war......oh, and naturally all this
2 strips of canvas cured the dust problems and there were no heavy losses. At all.
It's always worth bearing in mind the agenda some folks have at work in this area IMO.
Originally posted by namehere
what if an ally is playing you, not making their true intent seen, building up against you right in front of you, they could do that especially to
leaders who think such a thing is impossible, why do you think the US has a plan for every country incase they turn on us? the UK should have such
plans and the ability to execute them too with impunity.
- Well ok, that's a possibility, in a kind of theoretical way I suppose.
Nevertheless none of our close allies (except the USA) is building up anything in any way that might be threatening to the UK. The usual complaint is
that they are not doing enough and that has been said for quite some time.....and, again, to attempt to do so would take years and be very visible.
Training the personnel alone would be a massive undertaking and who of our allies is going to attempt to attack the UK, a power equipped with
sophisticated nuclear weapons (if things really started to go badly for us) anyway?
To suggest we attempt to match US forces just in case they turn on us is IMO not only impossible financially and politically but utterly unnecessary
and is in any case an absurdly unlikely proposition. Why would the US attempt to take over the UK militarily? They are well on the way to doing that
culturally (joke......er, kind of).
IMO it might sell a few trashy novels to some but the US and Europe are not going to go to war. It would ruin us all either just economically or