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Kentucky Church bans interracial couples

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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:17 AM
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I think most people here are forgetting the most important thing here: Love.
When two people love each other who is anyone to tell them what they can or cannot do? You sometimes can't control they way your life unfolds and how or when love is going to hit you right in the face.

My partner is black and we have 3 beautiful children. All are strong, healthy and do well in school and sports. I'm blessed with what I was given along my path. I'm also very proud of where I'm from and my heritage. But I've never let it guide my love life, know what I mean?
I think people who are always busy "preserving" their ethnicity are a little scary...But, that's me.




posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by IofRa
I think most people here are forgetting the most important thing here: Love.
When two people love each other who is anyone to tell them what they can or cannot do? You sometimes can't control they way your life unfolds and how or when love is going to hit you right in the face.

My partner is black and we have 3 beautiful children. All are strong, healthy and do well in school and sports. I'm blessed with what I was given along my path. I'm also very proud of where I'm from and my heritage. But I've never let it guide my love life, know what I mean?
I think people who are always busy "preserving" their ethnicity are a little scary...But, that's me.


Bless you, and your Beautiful Family...I could feel the love while reading your post. People like you, are the hope for the future.

Des



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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On one hand I beleive the Lord loves all His children equally, wahtever their skin color, and He wants us to praise Him together as one human family. We are all the Children of Adam and Eve! This cannot be pleasing in the eyes of the Lord.

On the other hand, government should never, ever interefere in church policy. As soon as they do that, we can be sure the Antichrist is at hand because his will be the merging of secular power with the corrupt church.

These are two seperate issues and it's important for every Christian to recognize and respond to these two issues in a seperate way. When they get mixed up in people's minds is when we go astray. Or as Dr. Egon Spengler famously opined, "Don't cross the streams. It would be bad."



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by TechniXcality

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Honor93
 


it isn't about more or less as far as personal value is concerned, but rather what the cause of the disparity is, and it's found to be most concentrated in places where poverty is the worst, which is africa. africans have been the poorest, least well fed, people on the planet, for a very long time and it has produced generations of people with genetic disadvantages.



Seriously, you need to stop equating africans to African Americans and interacial couples which is what this thread is about. Why do you keep talking about the poor war torn Africans in Africa you sound like the same government officals who take my oppurtunity away because im white. Since you feel so much guilt why dont you go to Africa and try to make a change? Instead of spreading your mock idea's on everyone around you?


i'm not equating it directly. it's genetically related, but dissipates over generations when the quality of life is higher, which is why africans in other places of the world who don't live in poverty, are producing doctors, lawyers, politicians, mathematicians and etc, because the human brain if properly sustained, is capable of the same levels of brilliance.

the video does not say that african people are genetically predisposed to this situation because they were meant to be, but rather because of living conditions.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Honor93
 


it isn't about more or less as far as personal value is concerned, but rather what the cause of the disparity is, and it's found to be most concentrated in places where poverty is the worst, which is africa. africans have been the poorest, least well fed, people on the planet, for a very long time and it has produced generations of people with genetic disadvantages.
i'm not disputing that poverty or Monsanto play a direct role however, i do not agree IQ holds as much weight as this study tends to infer. ok?
let's not forget that AIDS has ravaged that country for nearly 50yrs ... i'm sure that has some effects downline.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
There seems to be a lot of intolerance in your post, but of course I must be mistaken because you are a tolerant person correct?



Well considering it's been alittle under 50 years since state and federal racial segregation and and anti-interracial marriage laws were abolished thanks to the ruling of the supreme court and the federal government


That was a good thing? The Feds had no right to tell a state what they could do with their marriage laws. There is not one amendment in the Constitution that says "everyone has a right to marry who they want", so where did the Feds get the power to enforce this 'equality' on the states?


And where did the States get the power to interfere so boldly in the affairs of the individual?

We the people, not we the state... A black man and a white women are both people who do not
need the states approval, tell me how you can champion freedom, if you cannot even allow
individuals to pursue a marriage agreement they decide upon, on their own free will?

Where did the States acquire the right to enforce this "inequity"?

Where does the Constitution say that the States can regulate love?



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:49 AM
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This guy switches sides more than the Democrats and Republicans combined!

I do love to read about Fundamentalist Christians because they're the ones that cry the loudest about their Islamic brethren and Sharia law.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:49 AM
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Ok how the hell are African Americans affected by Africans in war torn Africa? please, do explain..



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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The similarities between the gay marriage and interracial marriage battles is that both draw/drew fire from the states rights crowd.

Interracial marriage is accepted by most people in the US. Why can't gay marriage also get the same acceptance?

And what is in the water down in that part of Kentucky? Are these people actively advocating a return to the 19th century?



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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nice comparison but no it's not true, my sister is a lesbian and even she would tell you this is false and far fetched.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:01 AM
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Care to go into detail? I don't see anything to agree or disagree with.

There are people in this thread that still think that states' rights should take precedence over the right of minorities to enjoy the same benefits as the majority.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by BohemianBrim
 


White, Hispanic, Black whoever, if they are willing to do my laundry I do not care they are welcomed!


It is so funny seeing people fail to comprehend the difference between racial supremacy and racial pride. You poor bastards did not have a chance.


Racial Supremacy and Racial Pride both are silly, lol...




posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:04 AM
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Exactly.

White Power, Black Power, etc are all just fronts for the free expression of hatred. However, in the case of Black Power, I can understand the roots behind it and the reasoning for its' existence. I can't understand that for White Power because White people have been known as the oppressors for decades now and I just can't buy it.
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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by ThreeThreeThree

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by BohemianBrim
 


White, Hispanic, Black whoever, if they are willing to do my laundry I do not care they are welcomed!


It is so funny seeing people fail to comprehend the difference between racial supremacy and racial pride. You poor bastards did not have a chance.


Racial Supremacy and Racial Pride both are silly, lol...



"pride should be reserved for something you acheive or obtain on your own,
not something that happens by accident of birth, being Irish isn't a skill..."

George Carlin

Interesting perspective
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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by TechniXcality
reply to post by undo
 


Ok how the hell are African Americans affected by Africans in war torn Africa? please, do explain..


they really aren't as much or as often, because generationally, their quality of life is higher than their relatives in africa. keep saying that. what the video is saying is even under good conditions, there's a disparity, but that's related to generational poverty, which takes awhile to repair. or at least, that's what i'm getting out of the video misoir posted. maybe i misunderstood it? not sure why you are cussing at me about it though. i was just commenting on how this info applies to everyone, when it gets right down to it, because if poverty causes disparity and generational poverty makes it genetic, the only thing that's keeping the royals from being brilliant is their decision to inbreed for thousands of years..



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by ThreeThreeThree

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by BohemianBrim
 


White, Hispanic, Black whoever, if they are willing to do my laundry I do not care they are welcomed!


It is so funny seeing people fail to comprehend the difference between racial supremacy and racial pride. You poor bastards did not have a chance.


Racial Supremacy and Racial Pride both are silly, lol...



Good stuff, and if it was a reality id have no complaint. But because being a minority is seen as a disabilty and being white as an advantage (obviously a racist government sanction) If you are white you are then given a meritable disability just because your white. In other words if im white and the next Tesla, i will be discriminated and shunned for the next minority that can write a thesis on theroretical physic's,



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
The similarities between the gay marriage and interracial marriage battles is that both draw/drew fire from the states rights crowd.

Interracial marriage is accepted by most people in the US. Why can't gay marriage also get the same acceptance?

And what is in the water down in that part of Kentucky? Are these people actively advocating a return to the 19th century?


i don't agree with their choice but i support their right to make choices. sorta suggesting they have brains of their own and use them how they wish, within the law of course. if the law is too invasive, it causes people to get even weirder. best to let people work out their problems. gov just isn't equipped to handle such things without abusing it.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by Misoir
There seems to be a lot of intolerance in your post, but of course I must be mistaken because you are a tolerant person correct?



Well considering it's been alittle under 50 years since state and federal racial segregation and and anti-interracial marriage laws were abolished thanks to the ruling of the supreme court and the federal government


That was a good thing? The Feds had no right to tell a state what they could do with their marriage laws. There is not one amendment in the Constitution that says "everyone has a right to marry who they want", so where did the Feds get the power to enforce this 'equality' on the states?


And where did the States get the power to interfere so boldly in the affairs of the individual?

We the people, not we the state... A black man and a white women are both people who do not
need the states approval, tell me how you can champion freedom, if you cannot even allow
individuals to pursue a marriage agreement they decide upon, on their own free will?

Where did the States acquire the right to enforce this "inequity"?

Where does the Constitution say that the States can regulate love?


Further more, the attitude that solidified the hatred against black men, is the same attitude that
was used as a justification for their enslavement. They are not as intelligent or as advanced as the
gentry... This is why people are jumping all over you. It is not that it is PC in this case, it is that
racialism, as it has been breed here for many generations, was a born of intolerance and hatred.
The same hatred which supplied the psychological basis for allowing someone to be the private
property of another person. The separation, the intentional limits placed open interaction, social
union, was a tool to ensure that the black race, the free labor, would not exit the stigma that was
placed upon them. The stigma that viewed them and employed them like farm animals, was
a very key component in keeping slavery alive. So the justification you state as your motive,
is, unfortunately, hard to detect when it was also a key function to perpetuating, slavery for many
centuries and then segregation.

Sounds like you are telling many of us that racism is some sort of misinterpreted racial pride, many
of us recall that segregating the races in recent history was a way of maintaining specific dominance
over another race. So while your motives may be what they are, you are doing yourself one
hell of a disservice missing out on the economic reasons races were separated so rigidly in the
south. All of these factors/tools for/of segregation are tied to the institution of slavery, maybe
eternally so. Just wanted to point out that, it seems like you missed that in the description of
your Bunkerism's




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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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The church has a right to do what it wants especially since the Bible actually says that god created everything after their own or something like that so you have to stay with your own race anyway.......so this is just what all churches have to do if they are to be taken seriously.

I'm sure the interracial couples could get married elsewhere anyway.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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oddly enough, the lady in the video in misoir's post is trying to show how generational poverty will degrade the iq of any racial group, but i think more specifically, she means to suggest that blacks score lower world wide because their african ancestors were impoverished. it takes quite some time in good living conditions to correct that. if we look at economic charts, i bet we will find areas where generations of the same families of any race, who have been poor with poor diets, generation after generation, will as a result, score lower on the same tests. in effect, poverty sucks for everybody.



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