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Hitler Was a Socialist!!!

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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Every Monday when I take out my trash cans I feel a little Socialist.

Maybe I should goose step as I wheel them down the drive for good measure?

A very silly thread.


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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Normally the smaller a government is in size, the more favorable to the elite it becomes.


This is an unfortunate truth comrades.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Yes, he was a socialist.

You're point?

Take away the heartless murder and hate of innocent millions, and the man was a bloody genius of a leader, organizing a nation like never before, producing technological jumps that have never been seen before. Creating situations where the nations that finally defeated them were fighting not for resources or for land, but for the minds of the captured survivors. What other war has done that?

If that's what socialism does, then simply scapegoat something that is a real problem, like greed, and hell, you create the best government Earth has ever witnessed.


Socialism is not communism, and socialism applied to capitalism is practically what the founding fathers, western philosophies, and Jesus himself preached most of the time.
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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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If it was'nt for the genocide of 3 to 6 million jews, NO ONE would remember nazis as evil socialist pyschopaths.

The soviets killed way more communist obstructionists then hitler killed jews, communists, gypsies.

The turks killed at least one million armenians. America killed how many hundreds of thousands the last two decades primarily in the middle east? How many central and south american natives were killed by right wing dictatorships?

Only nazism/fascism gets a bad reputation though and one has to seriously wonder if it is not a zionist conspiracy after all, since jews have had this awful superiority complex from day one. To be honest I think the conspiracy supersedes zionism but still jews have had a huge hand in the global population disliking them.

Everyone was rushing to aquire nazi technology after germany fell, especially america and the soviet union.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Hitler also claimed that Germany was under attack with the Reichstag fire which his supporters started.

The Nazis never did ANYTHING Socialist -- they were entirely committed to giving corporations power over everyone's lives and they didn't believe in Democracy.

It's unfortunate that anyone would even start this silly post without checking it out -- but it's a common theme of Fascists in the US these days to call their opposition "Nazis."

The Occupy Wall Street movement, as one of their CLEAR demands, wants to end the loophole that allows Congressional representatives to create perks for their own Delaware corporations. Being able to rule on and make money with insider information on legislation, means that most of Congress will leave office as millionaires, having sold out their constituents.

The Jackboots of today are pepper spraying the "socialists." Are Glenn Beck's fans who were so worried about Government tyranny doing ANYTHING but cheering them on? No big surprise.

I don't want to get up one day, and have the real Nazis in charge, finally unafraid to admit that they were so clever all along. It's really sad that people are SUCKERS for this idea that Hitler was a Socialist, or that we still have control of our alleged Representative Government and the Corporations that own it.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Please don't bend it to some Jewish crap.

Hitler killed near 6 million Jews. No fewer.

And One would expect that if every people you ever met was trying to kill you, you would be awfully protectionist. It's not a superior complex. It's a natural flight or fight response. Today we see the same mentality begining to form in Palestinian, North Koreans, and Iran. The Jews did not have a hand in this. The Jews are paranoid of another genocide because they haven't experienced a time where they physically had a military to protect themselves in 2000 years. What would you do if your entire life you read about how the world tried to kill your people and you learn today your people have a military and some land? You'd do the only natural thing people would do.


Hitler killed barely under 6 million. Period. Don't bend it to appease to some silly conspiracy. Zionism IS Judaism. There is no difference. Only those that know Judaism, and those that don't.

The topic at hand is Socialism and Hitler. Stop bending it away from that to appease some populist conspiracy crap that's unproven.
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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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I wasn't trying to downplay the jewish genocide since I don't deny the holocaust happened, but still jews have been known to be capitalist pigs from the days of christ and before. They control wall street and banking which is no coincidence.

Perhaps the jews are the direct pawns of the annukaki-nephelim but I have no way of verifying this. I would appreciate if you were less sensitive on this topic so maybe people get to the bottom of whatever grand conspiracy exists.

Just saying.......



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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But you are creating the conspiracy, with made up terms like "annukaki-nephelim". Nephilim in the Bible were soldiers and leaders. That's all, really. Men with powerful abilities. If you want a conspiracy, it's suggested that people made them, as in bioengineering. But this is off topic.

Jews do not own wall street. People own wall street. People who honestly have no religion but to gain more money. Some of them may have Jewish backgrounds, but also Christian, Islamic, and many other ones. There is no majority type of people. Maybe German if anything, but that's the cultural ethic of working hard for your money. And Capitalism is not bad. Being a pig at it isn't even bad. Its how you get to the top that makes you good or evil. A man has a right to keep all his money to himself.

There is no conspiracy. People want money. They do evil things to get money. Good men and good women stand against this evil act. That's as complicated as it gets.

You want proof? Here's some history.

en.wikipedia.org...(2011)

en.wikipedia.org...

Carl is catholic, Gates is agnostic, Buffet is Christian, and Larry Ellison is the only Jew there.

If you're going to claim something, at least have the common decency to look it up if it's true.
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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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What did you think, the short form Nazi stands for, OP?
And what do you think, you discovered now?

The national socialists are far right winged radicals. And they were the same before you read Wikipedia.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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If Hitler smelled like crap and looked like crap, that would mean he is a socialist piece of crap.

Period.

Spade is a spade.


Originally posted by Siddharta
What did you think, the short form Nazi stands for, OP?
And what do you think, you discovered now?

The national socialists are far right winged radicals.

Actually, socialists come in two extreme varieties.

Socialists can be far right and far left winged.

Obama is a socialist dirt bag communist.
Bush is a socialist dirt bag communist.

Don't fool yourselves.

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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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From your own snippet: Hitler is most commonly associated with the rise of fascism in Europe, World War II, and the Holocaust.
fascism is almost completely opposite of socialism, fascism is very anti-communism and anti-socialism.

Derpity Derpity Derp
Move along troll.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Scratch my original reply.

It turns out that Hitler used the same tactic as Obama to get elected.

Ironic.


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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Here's the deal Socialism is an idea, a system of control and in and of itself cannot be evil. It is practitioners who through their misuse of their given control are evil. It is really very simple.

And Hitler was the leader of the Nazi Party and that party practiced Fascism, not Socialism.

Fascism - often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

Which sounds more like the Nazi's ideology?

By the way what was your point?

I would recommend not getting all your info from wikipedia, I know it's sooooooo easy but read a book you might learn more.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Hitlers idea of socialism - Was to have the majority of the military industries be run by the state of Germany. Whether they were outright owned by the German state, is a question I let out too the people out there.

Hitler gave great leeway to the scientist's and engineer's, into research and development for the Nazi war machine.

Hitlers evil dream of a socialist state came true, when the Nazi juggernaut formed state run concentration camps; especially for the rich Jewish artisians who were subjected to slave labor. These inmates were sent to labor camps for work in stone quarrys, and factories that built the famed K98 Mauser rifle. The quality of there work was outstanding.

When the concentration camp inmates were exterminated, there human hair was made into blankets, human skin was used for lampshades and the gold filling's from there teeth was recycled.

This was Hitlers idea of the "Final Solution."






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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91

Yes, he was a socialist.


One more time...


Fascism has had mixed relations regarding capitalism. Fascists commonly have sought to eliminate the autonomy of large-scale capitalism to the state.[43] Fascists support the state having control over the economy, although they support the existence of private property.[44] When fascists have criticized capitalism, they have focused their attacks on finance capitalism, the international nature of banks and the stock exchange, and its cosmopolitan bourgeois character.[45] Under fascism, the profit motive continues to be the primary motivation of contributors to the economy.[44] Along with support of private property and the profit motive, fascists also support the market economy.[46]

secure.wikimedia.org...

Private property is capitalism. Not markets, not making profit, as that is also possible in a socialist economy.


Definition of CAPITALISM
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

www.merriam-webster.com...

Read that carefully. 'Private or corporate ownership of capital'. 'Mainly by competition in a free market', in other words it isn't free-markets in itself, it could be totalitarian, i.e USSR, Hitlers Germany, Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, all capitalist economies. Free-markets is not its definition.


Socialism is not communism, and socialism applied to capitalism is practically what the founding fathers, western philosophies, and Jesus himself preached most of the time.


Socialism and communism are closely related. You can not have socialism and capitalism together, they are polar opposites. You can have companies working within a socialist model, i.e. cooperatives, but unless the whole economy is worker owned and controlled it is not socialism.

Socialism is not government handouts, free health care, welfare, charity.

Simply, socialism is the worker ownership of the means of production. Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. Those are the two major definitions.


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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Section31
Scratch my original reply.

It turns out that Hitler used the same tactic as Obama to get elected.


The Major is impressed, the recruit has it correct except for the syntax. Obama used the same tactics as Hitler to get elected, and more importantly has used the same socialist usurpations of industry, specifically, GM, Chrysler and the entire healthcare system.

Dismissed.



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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So if socialism is bad because Hitler used socialism

then guns are bad since hitler used them

same can be said for anything else he used, believed, or touched.

great argument.

So if Hitler had used any other ideology would it be bad too??

In the eyes of many nations our country is bad so anything we believe would be bad too..

you are one bright cookie



posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Hitler was NOT a socialist. He was a fascist NATIONAL socialist. The two are entirely different in nearly every aspect imaginable. He hated socialism and stated this numerous times. Seriously bad troll thread. Never post again.
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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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When the concentration camp inmates were exterminated, there human hair was made into blankets, human skin was used for lampshades and the gold filling's from there teeth was recycled.


It was recently revealed that this was not a practice in concentration camps, nor anywhere else. The wife of one of the Nazi's had some twisted items in a macabre collection though. This story was an old wives tale that spiraled out of control over time.



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posted on Dec, 1 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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When you elect individuals to represent a community and privately own their means of production, you in essence are merging socialism and capitalism.

In short, fascism is the union of government and corporation. When governments, elected by people, control who privately own the means of production, you have capitalism also. It's simply more oligarchical in its organization.



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