Hitler Was a Socialist!!!

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Hitler and his party were right wing.

You're the only troll here.
A lie like this, it comes so naturally to you. You just regurgitate crap you have been told through you life without question.
Why don't go perpetuate your lies to some of you liberofascist friends.
Hitler was a raving lunatic "progressive". Vegetarian and occultist, his party contained homosexuals, and ferocious haters of life.
Sort of you satanic leftists of today. Still waging your wars against Christians and Jews. Still slathering at the mouth to kill millions of innocent babies every year in abortion even though the demographic of our country is comprised more and more of elderly and middle aged. It's only a matter of time leftists bring back a little euthanasia from the old Nazi play book. Still spreading propaganda through the media like Goebbels in the old country. And the hypocrisy that the left spouts is so thick I can barely see to type this through all of it.
Libs can't even hide behind their lies and sick hatred of everything decent and good in life anymore ,the more they speak the more venom spills out of their mouth and exposes them for the lying frauds and demented sycophant lunatics they are.

It's those italians we need to look to for Facism! , they even had an art movement which embraced facism , futurism!

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Yeah right wingers fail to acknowledge that corporatism is the main branch of capitalism.

No... Capitalism is FREE MARKET, and in corpocratism the big dogs have the power, even the power to persuade senators to pass laws that benefit corporations...

In a FREE MARKET no one has monopoly over such a market...
What is it about FREE MARKET that you don't understand?...

Look at the case of the freest market in Mexico, the drug market...
Do you know how many major players exist in that free market?

Plus, big industries like oil, insurance and lending are not subject to
any real distinction in the nature in the product. Therefore competition
is not based upon tangible difference, it is based almost purely upon
marketing. In these markets competition only inflates the price as it
does not improve the quality of the goods considerably, it only bears
more cost which is passed on to the consumer and secondary markets.

It is illusory competition...

Originally posted by Godofgamblers

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Hitler and his party were right wing.

You're the only troll here.
A lie like this, it comes so naturally to you. You just regurgitate crap you have been told through you life without question.
Why don't go perpetuate your lies to some of you liberofascist friends.
Hitler was a raving lunatic "progressive". Vegetarian and occultist, his party contained homosexuals, and ferocious haters of life.
Sort of you satanic leftists of today. Still waging your wars against Christians and Jews. Still slathering at the mouth to kill millions of innocent babies every year in abortion even though the demographic of our country is comprised more and more of elderly and middle aged. It's only a matter of time leftists bring back a little euthanasia from the old Nazi play book. Still spreading propaganda through the media like Goebbels in the old country. And the hypocrisy that the left spouts is so thick I can barely see to type this through all of it.
Libs can't even hide behind their lies and sick hatred of everything decent and good in life anymore ,the more they speak the more venom spills out of their mouth and exposes them for the lying frauds and demented sycophant lunatics they are.

Right... and Hitler wanted to purge the immigrants, kill the homosexuals, return his country
back to it's cultural roots, establish ultimate morality, embraced militarism, wanted to make
German the official language of Germany...

Hitler's ire was aimed at the Jew and liberals who were eroding Germany's national identity.

Sorry, but he was a right winger, his main political rivals were the KPD, the communist party,
diametrically opposed to the Nazi's.

Read a book and turn off Fox news

reply to post by Godofgamblers


It is so funny that right wingers (as you clearly are) always want to align what everyone considers the most evil man with the left because they hate them. He can't be both, and despite the lunacy you are spewing, the world and a world of scholars consider him right wing. Sorry to you too.
I do not follow blindly what I have been told, but I don't come to conclusions forced by a mad hatred as you do either, so I am clear in my understanding.

The words sociopath, pure unadulterated psychopath and a child of the black arts as it was under his order that the Nazi's started to experiment and toy with the spiritual realm. The reason why it backfired on them is because of their foray into things like black magic, the occult and actively sought to declare war on God, The rest of The Holy Family, The Government Of The Divine!

He wanted to harness the paranormal realm to weaponize it. I've been doing it for years and happen to be quite good but won't first strike.

Hitler was a MURDER!!!

His mindset still lives.

Hate still lives.

Enough said.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Godofgamblers

 

It is so funny that right wingers (as you clearly are) always want to align what everyone considers the most evil man with the left because they hate them. He can't be both, and despite the lunacy you are spewing, the world and a world of scholars consider him right wing. Sorry to you too.
I do not follow blindly what I have been told, but I don't come to conclusions forced by a mad hatred as you do either, so I am clear in my understanding.

edit on 2-12-2011 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)

World of scholars?
Like who for instance? The degenerate Marxist professors that have invaded our precious institutions of higher learning?
I'll bet you goose step right along with their recreation of events and history that suit your purpose to bring about the end of the conservative. The conservative who loves LIFE,LIBERTY and can actually manage to save money after a long hard life of work. The conservative or "right winger" as you so affectionately say, Christian that despises watching the "progressive" work their busy little fingers to steal money they didn't earn from the working class or fill young minds with porn and drugs and advocate ignorance with pop music and lousy movies.
They work tirelessly to take our only source to defend ourselves...our guns.
Didn't Hitler do the very same thing? Yup. How'd that turn out for the millions of defenseless people he murdered.
It sounds like you sir are suffering from a case of delusion. I suggest you put down your bong and go ask the families of the Cambodians Pol Pot murdered how great Socialism is.
You people never cease to amaze me with the profundity of ignorance and lies.
I guess I should expect this when you were raised that way and have no conscious save for what your leftist media and some pot smoking professor tells you in a book that probably hadn't sold all of 100 copies and each to
a malcontent who's more bent on seeing the failure of a free society in place of a Government run madhouse like the one which has come to exist...EXACTLY due to these same ridiculous failed concepts that brought Stalin and Mao and Castro to power.

reply to post by sonnny1


It not only lives, it is abundant.

Ironically alot of these folks here who were posting about FEMA camps when Bush was President have shifted gears. What crisis will push them over the edge?

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


Who has EVER heard of a rightwinger who is a vegetarian, an avid environmentalist to the point of being RADICAL, and who was a socialist?...

You have, his name was Hitler. Later.

The drop if is, most people have no awareness of reality as it is. When it comes to human civilization there is three main spheres of interest: The Political Sphere, The Social Sphere, and the Economic Sphere.

From a purely American vantage point(as I reject the Fabian Socialist Political spectrum), the farther left= more authority government has. Farther right= individual has more rights.

Under that context let's examine Hitler and Nazism:

Political Sphere: Hitler/Nazi's ruled a totalitarian state so definitely a leftist(remember, who is the extreme right wingers in America? Anarcho-Survivalist's)

Social Sphere: (severe cognitive dissonance in how people view this one, stems from the era when Traditionalism had a monopoly on the Social Sphere) Definitely a Leftist. As he supported Authoritative/ totalitarian support of traditional ideals to placate the commoners. Anyone deemed as acting outside of how established social norms was also sent to the death camps.

For example forcing people to accept homosexuality= leftist social policy. As people do not have the right, or rather the use of force(physical or emotional) is used against dissenting opinion. On the same token forcing intolerance of homosexuality(for example countries that it is illegal/etc) is an act of social leftism as well. Don't confuse ideologies with right/left. Ideologies try to latch onto whatever clever meme they can to expand themselves. Regardless if it is a lie.

Economic Sphere: Hitler and the Nazi's controlled Germany's(and later Europe's) economy. There was no open trade per se. And most of European Socialist economic policies stem from Nazi economic policies.

The reason why Nazism is "right wing" to Wikipedia(a website known to cater to Radical Feminist's) and other Marxist agencies(such as Academia) is because it is right wing, or rather to the right of... /drum roll: Communism.

From a communist's perspective, Fascism/Socialism is "right wing". As the commoners still have the right to own their own homes(as long as the government say's it is "OK"). While in communism, the government owns everything, including the clothes on your back.

So all the people saying Nazism= Right wing are just filthy communist scum. The people who say Nazism= Left wing, are people who value freedom, liberty, Justice and true tolerance(tolerance means even though you hate something your willing to put up with it to a certain extent).


P.S
Hitler wasn't German!
He was Austrian. And last I checked didn't the Neo Nazi Party win a Presidential election in Austria a few years back and the rest of the EU went postal? I know that a wife of a leader in the now banned Austrian Neo Nazi Party is running for their presidency(or whatever they call it)

reply to post by Godofgamblers


Actually I am pro gun, and a libertarian. I just haven't deluded myself as you have. You are trying to keep the right end of the spectrum as pure as Hitler tried to keep the Aryan race. How is that for an analogy.

Every group has their hiccups. The right and left have both had a few. The left had Stalin the right had Hitler.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Godofgamblers

 

Actually I am pro gun, and a libertarian. I just haven't deluded myself as you have. You are trying to keep the right end of the spectrum as pure as Hitler tried to keep the Aryan race.

How is that for an analogy.

Every group has their hiccups. The right and left have both had a few. The left had Stalin the right had Hitler.

edit on 2-12-2011 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)

Nice lie. Hitler was only to the right of STALIN! But to the FAR, FAR, FAR left of American Constitutionalism!

reply to post by korathin


It isn't wikipedia biased. Wikipedia doesn't cater. It is user edited, but they are very very strict. So unless you are saying all the users are feminists it's absurd. Hitler is at direct odds with liberalism, you guys are focusing only on socialism like it can only mean left and only at government size. Look at the core of the beliefs. Hitler is at odds with everything that left with the exception of those two things. Everything else. Also I am aware he was Austrian..

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I may be wrong but Im gonna chime in.

I think you already associated yourself and labeled yourself a socialist and never put any thought into it.

That way if anybody says anything derogatory about socialism, you immediately get on the defensive.

Or maybe Im wrong, didn't you say that you are not a socialist, but then you associated yourself as a liberal, so somebody says something derogatory and you get defensive.

reply to post by korathin


So how does that make it a lie? He is right regardless. You know there is an x and y axis to this right?
it isn't just far left is bad far right is good. You do know that right? That is something you should know before rudely calling someone a liar.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Actually I am a libertarian. Unfortunately my love of being truthful and without agenda gets me into predicaments where buffoons try to label me a liar and a socialist because I speak the truth and they don't like to hear it.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


A libertarian. Not a liberal. Now I understand who I am dealing with here.
Have a good night guys.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


No just asking, no labels, but you seem to stick to the left. Maybe open your mind a little and quit listening to opinions on ATS?

Im guilty of it too btw.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by korathin

 

It isn't wikipedia biased. Wikipedia doesn't cater. It is user edited, but they are very very strict. So unless you are saying all the users are feminists it's absurd. Hitler is at direct odds with liberalism, you guys are focusing only on socialism like it can only mean left and only at government size. Look at the core of the beliefs. Hitler is at odds with everything that left with the exception of those two things. Everything else. Also I am aware he was Austrian..

Wikipedia considers Jezebel as a "sound source", enough said.

What liberalism do you speak of? The correct term is Classical Liberalism(interesting political ideology). Sure, liberalism can be to the left of libertarianism, but liberalism is still to the far, far right of Communism/Fascism/Socialism.

Heck communism is at direct odds with classical liberalism(as your construct of liberalism wasn't invented till the 70's). By that logic communism must be right wing too!

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Lol.. no. I am not left at all. I am just telling the truth. Actually technically I am very right leaning.
I just know that the left isn't completely bad and am not so tied to the right that I have to align them with every bad person in history.

I'm afraid it's you that needs to do some reading. If I was listening to opinions on ATS I would blindly be saying Hitler was a lefty haha.