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Mediumship/Clairvoyance/Psychic - Your Questions & Experiences

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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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I have run entire projects based upon the Pay It Forward mantra, unfortunately at times even those who proclaim to be, or wish to encourage others to - are happy for them, to "pay it forward" on their behalf lol!!

As I have unfortunately just found out to my detriment


Lessons learnt and all that haha!! In fact, it is a direct result of that, I decided to go back "underground" and join the forum the other day upon finding the thread
... and here I am.

Thank you for contributing to the good vibes!!!


NWD




posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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There is a point I take actually in your post there about the words, you are right! But equally so, I am actually just a normal guy who this happened to, and my energy and intention I put out there, is to be welcoming to those who need my approach and experiences to help them.

Some people find it easier with a more light hearted humourous approach. Some not so much.

You are right, it is an incredibly serious subject, but ultimately there are many different paths to the same destination
- and I've had a fair old whack of experiences that's for sure - and let's just say, when I was doing more active mediumship, I had a distinctive latin name way more appropriate to where I was doing my work.


Thank you again though, I far more clearly see the point you were making!

Love & Light to you
NWD



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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I've just done a quick scan, for those of interest, to find some pictures of Physical Mediumship.

Now this can be easy to fake, there are pictures on the below website that whilst, testified by witnesses, are a little unconvincing to me (but I know better than to totally dismiss lol! - unprovable either way)

However, these modern photos I link to are more commensurate with the research I did a few years ago. Flash, bright normal light, etc is supposed to completely destroy the ectoplasmic fluid. The curtain, red lights, have been standard practice for many years. Now I was in touch with a very prominent researcher in this field a few years ago, met through my friend I've mentioned a plenty, who was himself involved and witnessed physical mediumship!

These images are not really those of you of a more nervous disposition, because it suggests something entirely different from the sort of mental connections mainly in discussion. Instead these suggest that we as humans, possess within us, a material form that can be extracted by spirit, to invoke a physical form of themselves. Not only this, but in advanced state is reported to walk around the room - interact with the sitters, use makeshift "voiceboxes" and such like. The guy I mentioned earlier, visited the UK a few years ago, and invited some of those who followed his research to visit and witness this for themselves. The reports were extraordinary. Alas, I will have to dig back a good few years to find all this out, if I can at all!

My conclusion - I am open to this possibility... what do you make of the photos on the link below? Remember some may find these photos a little disturbing if you are not used to it. I'm sure most of you here though, will just find it interesting to ponder


felixcircle.blogspot.com...

Thanks again for some BRILLIANT posts - I think I am just about up to date with it all now


Peace
NWD
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posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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It's been a busy week, reading the posts and trying to keep up. Now I have some time, and will tell you some of my experiences.

I have prem'd about 3 celebrities. All many years apart from each other. I knew who, the method of their death, and each 3 days before it happened. It's been sometime since I have recounted the events so bear with me.
Princess Diana, the Wednesday before, wake up with a start before the alarm for work. I verbalized "Princess Diana, Lady Di, Diana Spencer". Then wavering beside the bed I reach for the bedpost and tell my mate, car crash tunnel. Then kinda shake it off, like what the heck was that. Get ready for work. Check the news on tv, new papers, ask a dear friend at work had she heard anything. Nothing. Then staying up late watching late night tv, and switch over to HLN or something, and its on the creeper at the bottom. Needless to say, I spent that whole Sunday by myself. No tv, taking no calls etc. Shaken really. My mate and friend are weirded out, but loving and supportive anyway. Another was the character actor from SNL, Phil Hartman. Same scenario, coming out of a sleep state, say his name, shot, gunfire, wife. And dang if three days later its happened. The last and thankfully none since, was John John. John F Kennedy Jr. Thats what I said aloud after getting up from a nap. Plane, water, grey, cold. Then it comes out in the news, foggy no visibility plane crashed into ocean on his way with wife and her sister to a family holiday gathering. I have had other experiences as well. But the celebrity ones were like the universe telling me hey, this is real you are getting this whether you like it or not, but just to prove to you you have the senses, lets show you something thats gonna knock your socks off. And it did/has.

Its not something I can make happen on demand. And many times the things that I get enlightened to, I have no outlet to express, but am living with some pre knowledge until the darn thing happens. Some are fairly big ones and I tell that dear friend from before, or another close friend, just for verification, when ever I get these moments of clarity.

The one that shook me to my core, I didn't remember having at all. Till the person that was there when I had it, called me the day it happened and reminded me, then the whole thing came rushing back only now in living color.
about 6 months before 9/11 I woke up during the night thus waking up my sleeping partner, and he had me recant the "dream". I was on a high floor of an office building, desks and cubicles, large supporting pillars of the building, hallways and walls of glass. See a plane banking and headed nose first in the floors just below us. Like a nuclear bomb, the glass windows shatter and the entire floor was emptied, no walls no desks, empty space except the support pillars. Struggling to evac to the staircase I get just inside the stairwell and those of us still in the door see the floor collapse down and see the floor above us decend, then the next floor too. But the staircase trembles but doesnt fall just yet. A woman is trying to get a signal on a cell phone but is having difficulty in the stairwell, and finally reaches her husband to tell him she loves him and to be strong, but she has to go. Then the staircase collapses. There I said it. When he called me and reminded me of my "dream", again, all I want to be is alone. To pray and wrap my brain around, why am I getting these. I guess I always wanted to be more intuitive, but truely know with that come great responsibility. And NWD, you handle yours with such grace. Thank you.

I have had deja vu, like the place I work now, the first day there, I am looking around and sense this is so familiar. However, I am just a peon, in my pre sense I was the owner. Now if that changes, I will let you know.

I have had other dreamlike but not dreaming, its that weird state not awake, not asleep.
The last one was 3 days after the gulf oil rig spill. And was more like a supernatural connection to the universe. Was totally nothing to do with the oil rig and what was going on. But an acknowledgement that man is doing things to this earth that cant be undone. And the rife going on in the heavens is real because man is screwing up and because of that, that trouble will become manifested on earth too. It's coming. But in this case few details of what IT is.

sorry to run on so long, will track my brain and see what others I can remember.


edit on 2-12-2011 by SunflowerStar because: her sister



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by casperiumnebula
Right now I am drawn to go to Sedona. I am not sure why, but it’s just something I feel I have to do. Or perhaps it’s because I have read about the energy vortexes present there.


Nothing unusual about that... many people get to Sedona like that; it's magical. I lived in Sedona for nearly three years, and had first visited there because the name resonated so much with me when I first heard it; then I read about it on the Internet, saw photos of the Red Rocks and just KNEW that was where I needed to be. It was a very dramatic, life-changing thing to move from Germany to Sedona and probably the bravest things I've ever done... but it was soooo worth it.

My friend from Germany who later became my roommate in Sedona, had moved several years before me. For her it was that she had a vision of a red, bell-shaped rock with a Native American medicine woman sitting on top of it and beckoning her to come. She never forgot that vision, but didn't know where that rock might be or if it even existed. Then, a few months later, she met a travel photographer who showed her photos he'd taken of Bell Rock in Sedona... and she recognized the place. After that, nothing could keep her from moving there, come hell or high water. Those are just two of many, many miraculous stories how people are being "called" by Sedona.

But you have to earn your right to live there -- there's a saying among Sedonians that the town will either love you and embrace you wholeheartedly, or chew you up and spit you out. I've heard of people who had nothing but bad luck there; others find it's heaven on Earth. I wish you the best of luck -- it is truly a magical place; if you're even marginally sensitive, you'll have more UFO sightings and paranormal experiences than you've ever had in your entire life. It can be great -- it's up to you what you make of it.



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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Agreed. But there IS only one path...and it has many branches. The one straight way to it is the TRUTH and LIGHT.

And as you refer to yourself as just a normal guy? That was my point in the very 1st post. You sir...are certainly NOT WEIRD!



posted on Dec, 2 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by maya27
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Hi, thanks for your reply on this topic. It would be great if you would explain a bit more about your experiences.

Having re read my post, I see that I could possibly been clearer, or more explicit about it.

My point was that, although I have had these Psychic experiences since childhood, things ramped up considerably during the time I carried out this work. In retrospect, I can see that it was full activation of my heart chakra.

I don't have time to go into all the wonderful things that transpired. However, Whenever I am asked how best to develop by others, (usually other therapists) I do suggest doing palliative voluntary work.

I have just naturally done voluntary work since I was a child. It's the way society should be, but isn't, sadly. Not in the Western world.

I am a professional. And I don't "wear my heart on my sleeve". I kind of didn't get that part of your post.


But, if you are agreeing that in getting involved in this type of work has strongly developed your spiritual and psychic ability, then please do share. As I am very interested to discuss further.

I would say that a path was opened up for me by Source, and syncronicities helped me to accomplish many tasks and goals.
edit on 2-12-2011 by maya27 because: For clarification.


Oh my, I think you are an angel. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Your post hit me at a pivotal time. I'm trying to get into a volunteer position to help others through their rough patch.

My first partner died of AIDS. It was hard.

Now, I am trying to insert myself into the lives of other people that need help. Whatever I have said was late night drivel.

Yet, I do have a bit of something. Something that is beyond me and gifted by something higher than me. I am nothing. I am driven by a higher power when needed. Not sure what else to say.

There is nothing more important than helping other people transition from here to there. I'm ready and mature to be there for those folks.

Please disregard my ideologies. You are a beautiful person.

Bless you all over!
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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It's okay, In the circumstances you describe, I absolutely do understand.

Firstly, let me say that I am sorry to hear of your loss.


I can understand your reaction, especially on World's AIDS Day too.

All I can say is that I too kind of suffered a loss. Different illness. I had previously done Vol work within the prison system. But always felt drawn to buddy at some point in the future. I guess I didn't feel "Qualified" or "Good enough" to handle it.

Anyhoo, the circumstances of my loss brought about the focus, determination and strength to do it. I actually trained to be a Clinical Aromatherapist in order to do the work within AIDS/HIV.


It is the most demanding, and rewarding thing you could do. It may not turn you, or I or anyone into "Angels", lol. But I guarantee it will turn you into a force.


All and any doubt as to my capabilities disappeared. I quickly got to know my strengths and weaknesses. Something not everyone gets to do.

I have deleted half of this post.


U2U me if you want to chat. Thank you for your honesty. It's nice to meet you.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Wow sunflower, just wow.

You really opened yourself up there. I have just provided one member here, with a bit more insight and hopefully a little more proof (hope to find more for them) as to other aspects I have spoken about on here regarding my own personal, rather distressing, unwitting predictions and also why I must remain anonymous - not mentioning whom, that is not the point, I am not here to "prove" but hopefully support and empower. I am also going through something else, in a business sense, that I also remember having intuitive leanings from before and am wishing I had listened and not been so, well, foolish as to not take more heed.

Some general advice here to ALL:
If you are going to do something in your life, or you get a STRONG URGE, no matter how ludicrous it may seem - act upon it. If I had, I certainly would not be in the position I am finding myself in now. Or even if I had, I would have been far better prepared... Never trust other people, over your own instincts - especially if your instinct is strong!!

What I admire about this post Sunflower, is your honesty, I can hear the pain in the writing that you bear as a result. To share that, is brave - and I ask EVERYONE (yes, particularly flamers and skeptics), to pay respect to the great strain this puts upon people when it occurs.

Indeed, although I got off on the wrong foot with them, this is what MysteriousStranger made reference to, in that it can be a burden and a curse, and bears a heavy weight of responsibility. But this doesn't change the fact that we all have this gift, and you are most certainly better off with it under control in your own life, than letting it roam free - for it exists, whether we believe in it or not.

In what is a more serious tone than normal for me, I want to thank you personally for sharing those stories - on such emotive issues, I feel it was genuinely brave of you to share.

Also, it will be interesting to hear whether or not your own personal feelings as to your own future come true! Well done for posting that in public


You have my support and good wishes.
Peace
NWD

Thank you also, in your generosity in sharing this post with me.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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I think it is fair to say we got off on the wrong foot lol!!


I am happy to see you remaining in the thread - and thank you for your very kind words


Even for us psychicly inclined, I guess text can still prove a problem to interperit with the right emotion lol


And NO skeptics, that is NOT an invite to go - "See proof, you would already know!" Most of us have intermittant, and uncontrollable bouts of strong intuition - or we would know everything that everyone thought and/or felt all the time, and it would make life IMPOSSIBLE... remember that film with Mel Gibson hearing women think?




You're a lovely bunch on this thread, warm, friendly and kind spirited. Thank you for getting involved and being generous and honest with your experiences


Peace
NWD



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Really interesting you say that you know.

My Great Aunt was a wonderful soul, and she loved the place to bits, as I mentioned in an earlier thread.

And whilst I don't use the whole principle in its entirity, or necessarily subscribe to all its principles, I sure am glad I have the "Sedona Method" book right now as boy - am I ever having to do some personal letting go of emotions right now lol!! (for those who know of it).


Funny though that, hear that opinion of the place a lot - and to move there like you did? Wowsers, brave - glad it worked out though, again an example to all of us, thank you for sharing


Peace
NWD

PS - AND 22 FLAGS!!! Goodness me, that's amazing thank you everyone!! Can I take them to the beach on pop them in some sandcastles
- or is that just a British thing lol?
edit on 3-12-2011 by NormallyWeirdDude because: Added MANY THANKS - here are MANY MORE THANKSIES!!!!




posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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The spirit girl looks very much like the girl with brown hair just infront of her. If she is definitely a spirit, then I would say she is related to her. Do you know anything about that girls family?



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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The "Ability" runs in my family who happen to have Native American heritage (Choctaw Cree and Blackfeet) Scottish & Irish on my Moms side.

And I first began to understand this when working/playing with animals...in particular horses.

I realized that I could feel what they were feeling and once I understood that I could work with the Horses and by using my mind I could understand what it is they were trying to communicate....which made life much easier for Horses are much bigger than us !

My grandmother would always in her weekly Sunday call would always specifically ask about the Grandchild whom was suffering from a cold/flu immediately in her call.

We would wonder how she could do this...and then later in life I understood how. It's part of who we are and it comes naturally. Especially if you go with it.

I have been blessed with this gift in the form of prophetic dreams which I have used to guide myself in life.

The key is to not attempt to force it and as to why relaxing the mind via meditation tends to help all of this come to light.

And also as to why this comes about while we are sleeping simply due to the mind being so cluttered with the day to day it interferes with the information from the spiritual dimension.

I've also had a few very realistic and factual encounters with psychics throughout my life who have all told me that I have the gift as well.

This was merely confirmation for what I already understood.

That's all for now but good Thread OP and



Peace



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Some fantastic, balanced, and healthily grounded advice there. I coudn't agree with you more.

With your strong Celtic & Native American family heritage this comes as no surprise to me


The guidance, experiences, opinons and general warmth and willing to participate in this thread has really taken me by surprise. As has some of the wonderful, honest and fascinating U2Us I have also received.

It is not my wish to dominate the thread, but I do like to thank and interact with as many as possible - so please excuse me whilst I learn the appropriate balance.


Keep up the fantastic work everyone, and thanks again nh_ee!
Peace
NWD
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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So, if one were looking to learn the "how to" of meditation, where is a good place to start?

As a child, I remember being quiet open. Raised primarily by nannies due to family circumstances, one of our nannies was, er, unusual - tarot, meditation and the like. I was always fascinated by her insight. At that age I was able, if you were talking about a person, to tell you what the person looked like down to body language and clothing styles.

As I grew, anything that did not fit into a logical, skeptical, educational-grounded mold (as per my primary parent/guardian) was verbally & psychologically beaten out of me. I have finally started work - decades later - tearing down the walls & obstacles this "parenting" has put around me.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Like you, NWD, I joined ATS just for this thread.. something clicked & I made the leap. Although I have been lurking for a long while, I have not felt compelled to join until now. Essentially I am asking (searching) for guidance, I suppose. As a brand new member, I can't U2U.... so I'll naively assume that others may have these questions and post for all to see/benefit.
Preface: I have never done drugs (outside of beer, wine, & good vodka
and come from a wonderfully supportive stable Catholic family.
Without a doubt, my interest in "more than this body" began in first grade with an incredibly vivid flying dream. I remember waking up, exhilarated, knowing that I could fly! While this might not be unusual for a kid, my flying experiences never stopped... I just got better at it. Now, at 42, I'm a pretty damned good flyer - in my dreams (& sometimes I feel my awake self just ready to lift off..like I already know how, no big deal, it's just who I am). If this was it, I could just be happy with the dream dictionary & carry on. But it's not. My secret dream-flying gave me confidence throughout school and life; I "knew" things and people and places. I trusted myself and those few who flew with me - although I knew not their names/identities, just that they were good, helpful, & always there for me....still. To this day I talk to my angels/spirits/guides regularly. I learned & continue to make decisions based on "gut feelings" and intuition. I was/am very curious and open to what our true experience is and what we are cognitively missing due to lack of education, experience, evolution, etc. In college, I experimented with ouija boards and groups (got bad vibes, so I stopped), had past-life regressions, and read insatiably on the subject. At the same time, I completed graduate degrees in Science, presented, & was published in my area of research... I was/am on a quest to learn & understand.
So I just turned 42. Two kids, great family. In the last few years I have been having very strong "feelings" of something to come. It was strong enough to make me begin to watch the news, ask questions, and ultimately wake up. My husband is wondering why his normally level headed, logical wife is now a prepper. And quite frankly, so am I. I just 'know' I need to do it...does that make sense?? So I have been reading, searching, exploring again in an effort to understand what I'm feeling/sensing. I have hiked my way all around MSM News, the internet, waded through countless blogs and YT videos, and have ultimately come to realize that the answers may just be within me and those spirits/energies always around and guiding me.
So, I suppose my request for help is pretty basic for anyone with 'gifts'-- which is something I don't have. I haven't experienced any kind of mediumship or communication, to my knowledge. Outside of my limited experiences listed above, mine is a pretty generic life. I would like to heighten my senses, increase my level of sensitivity/reception, maybe help them help me - and others. I would like to know those who fly/hang with me. How do I do it? What meditation techniques are best? Should I seek a mentor? Can I do it privately? Good books? Helpful websites? Techniques? And quite honestly, is there any hope for me? In your expertise, based on my limited experience, what should I focus on, if anything? The field is so vast that any suggestions for direction based on your experiences are requested. I am very eager, open, and excited to explore the possibilities.
Thank you in advance ... I truly appreciate it!



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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I gave a birthday party for a young [7] nephew. There was a little boy with blue overalls on hat seemed very shy. He stood at the doorway when the candles were blown out. I thought he was very cute and ask my husband about him. The upshot was NO one there but me saw that little boy. I actually had a fight with my kids and husband about it and called everybody who attended the party. No such child.I wonder why he came to my house and if the is still here. He did not look like any of the children I know or any of my relatives that has passed. Do you have any heads up on who he might have been?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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7 Facinating Facts about meditation:
Source: www.huffingtonpost.com...&title=It_Makes_Your


It Can Protect Your Telomeres

Telomeres -- the protective caps at the end of our chromosomes -- are the new frontier of anti-aging science. Longer telomeres mean that you're also likely to live longer.

It Can Slow The Progression Of HIV

It's Pain Relieving Properties Beat MorphIne

It Makes Your Brain Plastic

Quite literally, sustained meditation leads to something called neuroplasticity, which is defined as the brain's ability to change, structurally and functionally, on the basis of environmental input.

For much of the last century, scientists believed that the brain essentially stopped changing after adulthood.

But research by University of Wisconsin neuroscientist Richard Davidson has shown that experienced meditators exhibit high levels of gamma wave activity and display an ability -- continuing after the meditation session has attended -- to not get stuck on a particular stimulus. That is, they're automatically able to control their thoughts and reactiveness.

It Increases Gray Matter

A 2005 study on American men and women who meditated a mere 40 minutes a day showed that they had thicker cortical walls than non-meditators. What this meant is that their brains were aging at a slower rate. Cortical thickness is also associated with decision making, attention and memory.

It Can Be Better Than Sleeping

It's Better Than Blood Pressure Medication



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Your most welcome. I will say this as Ive said before..."all gifts come from a higher power...some are born with them...others learn how to develop them".

It is yours and you share a path...a "roadmap" of sorts that a select few will share with you. As you bound ahead thru life...many others on the side paths will disuede you, ridicule you, deny you and yes even curse you.

These are the "potholes" along your path to and from the "source".

Just brake slightly, and stare staight ahead everytime you encounter them and dont stop. A journey of 1,000 miles begins with the 1st step. And a good set of tires!

Peace

Happy travels.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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First off I'd like to say that it's nice seeing someone who is willing to help others learn and understand what their gifts are and how to use them, also I registered to post in this thread.

I've been a very spiritual person most of my life. Although I'm not a "psychic" I've had senses of many things that end up true or are very close to what I sensed happening. I've never been gifted with second sight or talking to the spirits around me though I've felt their presence and have occasionally seen "glimmers" of their being. I'm more of an energy manipulator and although it may sound unreal I have done some interesting things. Through force of will I've made the flame of a lighter stay still as though it were inside a building during near gale force winds and other small feats. I've taken a several Zener tests both physical and digital. When I take physical zener tests I never do better than 3/10 but multiple times I've replicated 7-8/10 results in a digital format.

Let me tell you a story of one of my spiritual experiences (at least I believe it to be spiritual) before I get into my questions. About 11 years ago when I was 12, my sister's father (my step-father) passed away, rather quickly, unexpectedly and thankfully painlessly of a heart attack while he was hunting. The coroner told us that it was a quick death as his heart just stopped completely. Nearly a year later I was working in his garage on a gift for my mom when I felt a shiver and that feeling like you're being watched. Moments later I caught the scent of his usual cologne in the air. My mother had been napping and she woke about an hour later. She told me she had had a dream about him working frantically in the garage and telling her that he had too many things to do before he could leave.

A little over a year later my mother and I had gotten in a fight and we were having a yelling match. Like a typical young teenager I told her to shut up and turned up the tv which proceeded to turn itself off. All the power in the house was fine as lights and clocks on the same circuit were still on and working, even the little red LED on the tv was still on. I tried to turn the tv back on with the remote which didn't work and I got up and tried the power button on the tv which also did not turn the tv back on. I proceeded off to my room where I started blaring my music very loudly when the fuse to my room and the entire basement tripped. My room immediately felt cold and I felt afraid. The fear led me to apologize to my mom and we made up. I sat down in the living room afterward and the tv turned itself back on.

To this day both my mom and myself believe it was my step-dad causing the power outage and the tv turning itself on and off.

Now that I've shared a story I have a few questions.

1.) Can you give me some tips on intentionally starting an OBE? I've tried many things I've read online and some work but not very well and others not at all.

2.) How can I try to contact the spirit realm and do you have any tips on how I can best open myself to receiving the messages they may be trying to deliver? I know the dangers and I know many ways to protect myself as I have lots of experience working with energy constructs.

3.) Have you ever tried any kind of telepathy such as remote viewing through another's eyes (with permission of course) and if so how were those experiences for you? I've done it myself but would like to hear of other people's experiences to judge mine against as I'm mostly practiced at manipulating energy.

If you feel any of my questions are out of context with the topic at hand feel free to ignore them and/or U2U me (not sure on how many posts I need to be able to send a u2u) and thank you for this wonderful thread.



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