Russian arms in US backyard: Back in Cuba

Russian arms in US backyard: Back in Cuba

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Russia has launched a military partnership project with its Cold War ally Cuba, amid rising tensions over US plans to deploy an anti-missile system in Europe.

Russian contractors are to supply production equipment for manufacturing 6.52-mm rifle rounds, Kommersant daily reports. Cuban arms plant called Comandante Ernesto Che Guevara will also receive a license and technology for recycling used ammo.


The daily cites its sources as saying that Havana officials decided to purchase the equipment after visiting a similar production line in Venezuela. The insider did not reveal any details

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Is it me or is this some sort of move by the Russians??.There has been alot of posturing going on in the last 3 days(Pakistan closing supply lines,Russia threatning to close routes,Aircraft carriers from both U.S. and Russia)

Italy,Germany and Britian bringing diplomats home,the iranian embassy in sweden was attacked today.This is a lilttle bit more than business as usual going on here.

There are stories coming in hourly about the situation and the American MSM are turning a deaf ear to it.What gives???

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reply to post by alchemist2012


A big powder keg of countries that are problem ridden are getting ready to explode. Hopefully not but it does seem to point that way. Not much anyone can do but wait and see what the next "Show" is.

reply to post by mileslong54


Yeah I agree with you,something is going to set it over the tipping point and it al will go up.

Uh.....the cuban military has been using "Russian arms" for some time......Cuban military equipment - a contract for small arms ammunition is not exactly all that stunning!!

What's the maximum age for the draft?

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


True it is not that stunning,but why the need to 1.manufacture ammo a half a world away and 2.why does cuba need to make ammo and last but not least maybe the current stockpile of Russian ammo is not enough for the upcoming need or maybe they plan on doind something closer and not have to wait for a supply drop

Unfortunately I don't think 6.52mm (.256in) recycled rifle ammo Is going to do much deterring vs a missile defense shield

However, I'm sure the real goal here is to reestablish arms trade between the two for if or when missiles need to be transferred over. Or like previously said...have a huge supply island right beside your target, that most of said targets conventional rifles won't use..(or do they?)

the drums of war are getting louder, can you hear them?

reply to post by Vardoger


There is more to the story than small arms i agree there is a underlying reason not yet known to us

Well here's a similarity.....If the USA can supply Israel/India....etc with Nukes and other such toys, They'll look pretty hypocritical if they complain against Russia arming Cuba and South America.

reply to post by alchemist2012



Russia are becoming very active of recent. They are talking about making a missile defence system with China and Iran too...

Funny how there is war on the horizon as soon as the peeps start waking up...

reply to post by purplemer


Yeah thereis a thread going on now and yes Russia has become very active is it true he addressed his country recently what was said

exactly, this is just a initial play, it will build on this.
Also, i doubt recycling rounds is the ACTUALLY occurings here.

Seems like it's just a matter of time until we find some nukes there....again.

Originally posted by alchemist2012
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

True it is not that stunning,but why the need to 1.manufacture ammo a half a world away and 2.why does cuba need to make ammo and last but not least maybe the current stockpile of Russian ammo is not enough for the upcoming need or maybe they plan on doind something closer and not have to wait for a supply drop

Why not make ammo where it is used? As the article says, ther is already a plant in Venezuela - it would seem the plants are actually quite small on a "global" scale.

Cuba has military, military uses ammo - even in peace time, and it also needs to replace time-expired ammo - what is it you think is strange about that??

What do you think the "upcoiming need" is? Is the US planning on invading Cuba again??

Cuban gear is grossly old and obsolete - dating to the 1960's - the best tank they had was the T62, and they probably still have some T34's from WW2 around somewhere too!!

Cuban military spending dropped markedly after the dissolution of hte USSR, and started picking up again with an improving economy in the 2000's - eg see here

Basically Cuba has seriously old equipment, and any suggestion that updating it is unusual is a good sign of paranoia!!

Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
Seems like it's just a matter of time until we find some nukes there....again.

Seriously? they are going to recycle 6mm ammo, and you think this means they are going to have nukes???

No wonder the west is falling appart with this sort of thinking!

No biggie.

But if NATO continue their missile defense crap... I remember a few years back, Putin said that they could put nuclear bombers in Cuba if NATO continued putting their missile shield near Russia...

Since Putin will be reelected next year... if NATO continues, we might see this happening.

Edit :
Russia contemplates using Cuba to refuel nuclear bombers

Russia is considering the use of bases in Cuba for its nuclear bombers, in a move that revives memories of the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, according to reports in a Russian newspaper.

Russian military sources said that Moscow is contemplating using Cuba as a refuelling base for its nuclear-bomb carrying aircraft. The move would be in retaliation for the Bush administration's plan to site a missile defence shield in Europe.

Of course all denied at the time...

reply to post by alchemist2012


This doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Getting rounds reloaded is a far cry from putting active nukes in the ground! In reality, I think the US deserves this. Cuba has been a great global destination for decades, and it is right here in our own backyard, and we ignore it. We should have opened up trade and tourism decades ago. I had high hopes Obama would do just that, but as in most of his campaign rhetoric, not much happened. He did ease the travel restrictions on family members a little I suppose.

So, I applaud Russia for doing what the US has been too stupid to do. Build trade alliances with people, create jobs, and find mutually beneficial relationships.

Maybe Ron Paul will get a shot to overhaul our foreign policy. We desperately need it.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


No, but if things continue on the path they're on now then it doesn't seem so crazy.