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reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 11:31 AM by Raivan31
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As soon as America is unable to defend itself any number of different countries will attack, America will still have some of it's arsenal including the dreaded 'nuke's' and that would probably be the end of our health on a global scale.
The fall of an American economy would hurt several other places for a while which may cause revolts and rioting but eventually anyone thats left will be ill from various war related toxins, population would decline pretty dramatically and the more remote places will pick up where the seats of power left off.

That is my 'American economic collapse scenario'

But even if the yankee economy collapse's things will likely not get that bad as America would still be able to defend itself provided they pulled out of all of the places they currently involve themselves in.

However, without America there to saber rattle other countries might become more ambitious and start something stupid.

The real danger lies with pandemic threats, natural disasters and any possible NWO related moves.


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 11:45 AM by saltdog
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It all seems to be possible, what your saying...It would really suck once people wake up and panic...or if the people with there hands out all the time..getting assistance that they don't need and shouldn't have to begin with...when they quit getting free $$ from uncle sam...we are going to have to hold on to our socks!!!


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 11:56 AM by mwood
Your right most likely.
Assuming we don't have an asteroid impact or something the species known as man will "keep on keeping on" as Joe Dirt said.

Most likely scenario is that this country and others will experience very hard financial times and probably will experience a severe economic collapse. Many countries are linked economically so if one major player goes under then most likely they will drag down others with them.

history shows that when governments do what they are doing today it leads to hyper-inflation so I see no reason to expect otherwise.

Unemployment will skyrocket to the point people will pray for what we have today. Prices will inflate to crazy levels and all but the richest, luckiest or best prepared will be able to pay for needed items.

It sure is nice to have smart phones, cable TV, video games, nice vehicles, internet service and eat out a few times a week but when you get to the bottom line all we really need to live / survive is shelter, food, water & air.

So far air is still free.......
Shelter can be a s little as a tent which is cheap.
Water is abundant if you know where to get it and purify it if needed

Food is getting more expensive weekly and may get to the point during a collapse where most can't afford enough of it
I have stored enough dry goods (wheat, rice, pasta, beans...ect) to last my family for 9-12 months and have enough seeds stored (heritage seeds) to grow very large gardens for a few years.
We also have canned goods (store bought & home canned) that will last for about 3 months.

I just recently moved from the city to a country setting where we have our own well so water isn't an issue.

You also have to put some thought on defending what you have or it could be taken from you, we have that covered also.

If you live in the country or even a suburban setting where you have a yard it isn't very hard to prepare to supplement your food source.
I don't want to say people who live in the cities are doomed to suffer, but I don't really know how they will be able to grow food adequately to survive and there will be so very many competing for what resources they do have there.

I know it's easy to say and harder to do but my advice to those that CAN do it is.........

Get rid of as much debt as you can and don't owe on any loans or credit cards
Move to a more suburban / country setting,
Learn to grow your own food as much as possible
Have a well
Store enough food to get through 6-12 months
Have a way to defend your family and what you own
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reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 12:45 PM by purplemer
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It wont be the end of the world. Empires come and go. Looks at what happened to Great Britain or more recently Russia. You will adapt and have a more balance position in the world. I am sure the US will be a force in the world for many years to come..


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 01:04 PM by sheepslayer247
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What I have seen is that more and more people are having to ask for a "handout". Things are tough out there. We all may end up being in a position where we need to rely on someone else or each other to make it!


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 04:43 PM by saltdog
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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What I have seen is that more and more people are having to ask for a "handout". Things are tough out there. We all may end up being in a position where we need to rely on someone else or each other to make it!


People hit hard times, I know, But the ones that do nothing to better themself...those are the ones that i m refering to...and like you said...asking for a handout...rely on someone else or each other to make it!!....YES each other..NOT the government...do expect something for nothing...the programs are there to assist people, but they are being extremely abused by lazy, no good, dirt bags of society..they dont do anything because they are not encouraged to...they get rewarded for being lazy and paid more to sit on there asses and do nothing...than if they had a job.

Sorry about the rant, but its all true, yeah some might not like it, but the trueth hurts sometimes....now we all need to just help fix it...cut there amounts, punish them with less if they have kids and are on it...they are using that to get more $$...make it so that they have to have some job...because I am sick and tired of seeing people eating steaks and all name brand goods and then use welfare card to pay for it....I wish they would just get a standard bag of items...like noodles hamburger sauce bread milk and butter...thats all you get... make it work because you get nothing else till next week...oh and if your caught with alcohol or tobacco then you lose your free bag of food, because it you can have cash to buy alcohol and tobacco, then you don't need help from others...Thats just how I feel..
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