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High School Teacher Placed on Leave for Allegedly Starring in Adult Films

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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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A high school English teacher in Boston has been placed on paid leave as the school investigates allegations he recently appeared in pornographic movies.


This situation bothers me...

There is no hint, so far, that this man, in his capacity as an English teacher was promoting the pornography industry (which, anyway, is lawful business), or gay lifestyles (which is lawfully protected).

Apparently he is very qualified as an English teacher, as he was not only hired to teach English at one of America's best High Schools...but he was immediately named as the Chair of the English Department.


A spokesman for the department added, “We expect teachers to hold a very high moral standard. They are role models for students."


This, to my mind, is a strange and hypocritical statement. I wonder how many of those now standing in judgement of this man's prior employment have ever watched pornography themselves....probably a very high percentage.

What exactly is a "very high moral standard"? For example, would a teacher be placed on leave if they were suspected of having committed adultery? Would a teacher be placed on leave if they had marched in a parade in support of men having more than one wife (which in some Muslim, or Mormon, circles would be considered perfectly moral)?

Or...is this just a witch hunt against a man who acted in a movie with a gay theme? Whatever happened to freedom of expression?

(For the record, I am a very straight, happily married man...who has never been involved in the industry in question)



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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I guess that you really do have to read the fine print in your contract. Think about it this way. This isn't an anti-pornography or an anti-gay attack, it is just business. This was a private school and the majority of parents wouldn't feel comfortable having their children around this guy, so the school removed him from the classroom.

They haven't fired him and they are still paying him. What I wonder is how was this brought to the school's attention?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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I saw this on the news and I had a chat with a Teacher who I know who live's next door to me and she agreed that he shouldnt be a teacher the reason she gave is if it became public knowledge in the school that he was in adult movies and pupils found out the pupils would use this to their advantage or tease him so much he wouldnt have the respect of them.
I remeber finding out as a kid that one of our teachers had an affair with another and we made his life a living hell and he quit. (Kid's can be evil sometime's).



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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You guys are a piece of work.

Why shouldn't this guy be allowed to teach?? So what he took one for the team to make some cash on the side. Hello its 2011 people. For starters teachers don't make a heck of a lot of cash. Second porn is a part of popular culture now. Most of us have viewed porn at some point or another.

What is it you are more appalled at?? The fact that this person has gay sex? Or the fact that he filmed it?


Either way, why is it OK if someone makes private videos in their own home or has weird sexual fetishes but if someone makes a porn it is suddenly not OK??? See what I'm getting at.

I'm sure this guy didn't talk porn all day and show his students his moves. What you do on your own time is your own business. If you keep it outside of work and still do your job correctly what's the problem??



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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You sound like you'd be comfortable with your kids (do you have kids?) being taught by a pornography actor. Many parents (me included) are not comfortable with that. Are you going to say your opinion is right and mine is wrong?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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It's not about the morality of it, the kid's he teach are not as mature as us adult's and would take the micky outa him left right and center.
Boy I woulda had a field day at school if it came out that one of my teachers was a gay porn movie fella (Yes I was very naughty at school



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Oh the West.

Wen are we gonna stop being ashamed of our bodies and sex eh?

Such a sad state of affairs when you can't even have a private life anymore at the risk of some prudish, draconic policies originally instituted by the church..

This man did nothing wrong. If the parents don't like the idea of somebody who starred in a porno teaching their kids, they can vote with their wallets or their U-Hauls. Your employer has no right dictating your life outside of school hours.

"High Moral Standard", that's laughable considering these people charge ridiculous ammounts of money, too much IMO ( and I know I pay for private school) to teach a child how to make a living and become a productive member of society.

Pot meet kettle.

~Keeper

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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I'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned. I do have three kids and I would have no problem with them being taught by a pornography actor. As long as the teacher was doing their job correctly and was leaving their extra curricular activities at home and not in the workplace then what's the problem? It would be a teacher doing their job, to teach. I give teachers credit. They don't make much and put up with a ton of BS. I personally know a few teachers and a few of them make so little they can barely afford to make ends meet. Many of them all have side so jobs which is necessary for them to do simple things such as pay rent/mortgage.

I would be critical of this persons ability to teach only. Honest it could be much worse. What if he were dealing drugs?? Or purchasing a prostitutes?? Or having sex with students?


This guy has a side job. That is all.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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I don't have kids but yes i would feel comfortable if they were taught by this guy.
Is he a good teacher??
Thats the only thing to concern yourself with....not his private life.
Thats why its called a *private life*
He is not teaching gay porn...he is teaching academic material.
2 totally different things.

People and their politically correct crap need to check themselves at the door and get off their highhorse.

Between certain hours he has one job....in other hours he has a different job.
Whats the issue??
Do you want people to tell you what you can and cannot do in your personal lives??



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Tell me about it. I'm trying to raise my kids to not be ashamed of these sorts of things. I think alot of this taboo is what contributes to sexual deviancy. Many people grow up in the west not being sexually mature as adults.

I remember I was in a men's locker room at a gym once and I walked nude from the shower to the locker, this one guy was trying to tell me I was sick and that I should have covered up. He asked me if I was a homosexual. I just laughed and went about my business. Who cares? Guy acted like he never seen a junk before.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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If he had a "morals clause" in his contract, then he is SOL if the school decides to remove him. There is a strange double standard where teachers are concerned.

My wife teaches for a private school. A few years ago, she modeled clothes for a fashion show, held to raise funds for a local charity. There was a complaint filed against her because one of the items that she modeled was a clingy nightgown. She had a one piece swimsuit on under it at the time, but, a complaint was filed. The only reason that she was able to keep her job was that the school was a sponsor of the show. (I bought the nightgown)

When we started dating, I lived quite a distance from her, but, she always came to my place, not me to her's. The reason for this was that she was up for tenure at the public school that she taught at and there was a woman who lived down the street who was a fixture at school board meetings. She was sure that if I was seen coming and going from her house, that old bat would have filed a complaint. It used to be that the double standard was primarily for female teachers, it is nice to see that equality is catching up in this area.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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Sorry had to do it...
Bet he was jealous lol



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Tough one really and i guess it depends mainly upon the context of the situation. For example, if this was brought to the attention of the school by the pupils themselves then there is certainly a case to answer. However, if this has been raised by someone with nothing to do the school (ie not from pupils, parents or teachers) then what the hell would it have to do with the school what he may do / have done on the side? He is there to teach and nothing more.

This is the kind of situation that perplexes me and leaves me rather schizophrenic! I taught for 5 years so part of me says this is very bad judgement on his part and now it has been discovered he cannot have any complaints. The other part of me thinks so what? What is it to do with the school, kids or even parents what he does on the side? As long as he is a competent teacher, that is what he is paid to do.....



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Haha that's what I'm thinking.

But seriously. Things are getting out of hand. We are living I'm an age where kids as young as ten are sexually active and teens are getting pregnant left and right. We say nothing about this but we punish responsible adults for what they do in their private lives regarding sex even if what they are doing is 100% legal.

In Ontario we have a law that allows women to be topless outdoors and yet every time a women bares her breasts at a public beach they are called a slew of names or approached by concerned citizens who are critical of their actions.

My wife used to breastfeed our boys when they were infants and whenever we were in public we were approached and asked if she can go somewhere else to do it. And this is while she was covered d by a blanket. A few people even told her she was disgusting and how dare she. One lady told her to go in the washroom and do it and my wife asked her if she likes to eat her dinner on the toilet.

Yet we let our young women dress like trollops, let them go to bars where the whole point is to pick up men for sex, allow them to be pregnant in their early teens. This is considered acceptable though and seldom does anyone question this behaviour.

I don't get it.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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Maybe the parents upset by this should send their kids to be taught by nuns or monks?

Oh, noes! The teacher has sex!!!

It's cool though if the teacher's a vet and spent the better part of a year blowing limbs off farmers and kids. That's fo' Amerrrica, deeerrrr.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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I agree with you. As I said and you probably know, there is a double standard for teachers. When ever "it's for the children" pops up common sense goes out the window. There are rules and laws made that would never survive other than "it's for the children". I know a woman who cannot get a teaching certificate in Pennsylvania because she was found "not guilty" of serving alcohol to minors. Just because she was charged is enough for her to be denied a certificate, but, "it's for the children".

metaldemon2000
Not only is sex tolerated, in several areas it is actually promoted by our public schools. Everything from classes on the mechanics of sex down to the schools providing birth control and abortion counciling.
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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It's just kind of amazing that we try to make kids A-Sexual until they turn 18 and then tell them they have to be ashamed of their sexual experiences and keep everything on the inside..

I know my kids were raised with the mentality that sex is OK and a natural part of life. Although there is an appropriate age for you to start being sexually active, there's no reason you should be sheltered and guilted into thinking sex is taboo.

It really messes a person up.

~Keeper



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499
reply to post by Flavian
 


I agree with you. As I said and you probably know, there is a double standard for teachers. When ever "it's for the children" pops up common sense goes out the window. There are rules and laws made that would never survive other than "it's for the children". I know a woman who cannot get a teaching certificate in Pennsylvania because she was found "not guilty" of serving alcohol to minors. Just because she was charged is enough for her to be denied a certificate, but, "it's for the children".


Whilst that is a terrible story, the worst part of it is that they are teaching the same children that you do not deserve a second chance in life (and this lady you know wasn't even guilty in the first place to be given a second chance!).

Whatever ideals and morals we may have as children are blunted when we are exposed to the reality of life. Black and white goes out of the window in many circumstances and situations - what you saw as a clear yes or no as a child suddenly opens up into many grey areas.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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Too many people shelter kids from the truth and act as though things that happen in society doesn't exist or is a major taboo. When kids finally encounter these situations they have no idea how to deal with it or how to conduct themselves properly and most of the time end up screwing up mostly because of lack of education on the subject. Also the fear of alerting parents to their activities makes the situation worse and they may wind up making more decisions that lead to more trouble. I try to teach my kids that no matter what happens they can trust me enough to confide in me without the fear of severe punishment.

This is one of those situations though. I think the biggest thing here is the parents now have to deal with something that is simply a fact of life and now their children are at risk of being exposed to something that is contradictory to the dream world they trained their kids to believe in.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Porn stars are paid money to have sex on camera. I know a lot of parents would be enraged that their child is being taught by a porn star. The only reason he was fired was so that the school would save face.
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