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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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Many of the "liberals" here on ATS claim to be the real authorities on FOX News, so that only leaves me with two conclusions:

1) They must watch the FOX channel a hell of a lot more than I do.

2) They are only parroting what someone else claims, and can't, or won't, think for themselves.

I honestly feel the correct answer is "2" though.

I gave you a star for your bravery.


See ya,
Milt




posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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reply to post by BenReclused
 


Thanks buddy.

I like the flames they keep me warm at night.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by mastahunta
 


No the point that THE PEOPLE were left winged SOCIALISTS. Kinda like you folks.


Don't mean to be rude but you are making it too easy by falling hard into the stereotype of Fox News watchers, they trained you well~ as soon as someone disagrees with you, point fingers and call them socialists!



ETA: And no, I'm not a socialist, not even a liberal.. I am a constitutionalist, a libertarian, and I have serious problems with the liberal media too~ but I have big, big issues with Fox for ruining the name of conservatism with their globalist, neocon, constitution-when-convenient deception and blatant lies. Fox isn't truly conservative. They wouldn't even know conservatism if it smacked them in the face.
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by mastahunta
 


No the point that THE PEOPLE were left winged SOCIALISTS. Kinda like you folks.


How does that prove your point? What point does it prove?

Like us folks? Who are you? I'd guess the same as us folk, as a true capitalists would be far more informed than you, and wouldn't waste their time on a forum.

But you of course miss the point. If socialism is of the people, then why would you look at the elite 'ruling class' to tell you what socialism is? You should listen to the people...


Let us not destroy those wonderful machines that produce efficiently and cheaply. Let us control them. Let us profit by their efficiency and cheapness. Let us run them for ourselves. That, gentlemen, is socialism...

...There were writers of the early twentieth century who spoke for socialism or criticized the capitalist system harshly-not obscure pamphleteers, but among the most famous of American literary figures, whose books were read by millions: Upton Sinclair, Jack London, Theodore Dreiser, Frank Norris.
Lipton Sinclair's novel The Jungle, published in 1906, brought the conditions in the meatpacking plants of Chicago to the shocked attention of the whole country, and stimulated demand for laws regulating the meat industry. But also, through the story of an immigrant laborer, Jurgis Rudkus, it spoke of socialism, of how beautiful life might be if people cooperatively owned and worked and shared the riches of the earth. The Jungle was first published in the Socialist newspaper Appeal to Reason; it was then read by millions as a hook, and was translated into seventeen languages...

..One of the influences on Upton Sinclair's thinking was a book, People of the Abyss, by Jack London. London was a member of the Socialist party. He had come out of the slums of San Francisco, the child of an unwed mother. He had been a newsboy, a cannery worker, a sailor, a fisherman, had worked in a jute mill and a laundry, hoboed the railroads to the East Coast, been clubbed by a policeman on the streets of New York and arrested for vagrancy in Niagara Falls, watched men beaten and tortured in jail, pirated oysters in San Francisco Bay, read Flaubert, Tolstoy, Melville, and the Communist Manifesto, preached socialism in the Alaskan gold camps in the winter of 1896, sailed 2,000 miles back through the Bering Sea, and became a world-famous writer of adventure books. In 1906, he wrote his novel The Iron Heel, with its warning of a fascist America, its ideal of a socialist brotherhood of man. In the course of it, through his characters, he indicts the system...

...Around 1776, certain important people in the English colonies made a discovery that would prove enormously useful for the next two hundred years. They found that by creating a nation, a symbol, a legal unity called the United States, they could take over land, profits, and political power from favorites of the British Empire. In the process, they could hold back a number of potential rebellions and create a consensus of popular support for the rule of a new, privileged leadership...

...When the Declaration of Independence was read, with all its flaming radical language, from the town hall balcony in Boston, it was read by Thomas Crafts, a member of the Loyal Nine group, conservatives who had opposed militant action against the British. Four days after the reading, the Boston Committee of Correspondence ordered the townsmen to show up on the Common for a military draft. The rich, it turned out, could avoid the draft by paying for substitutes; the poor had to serve' This led to rioting, and shouting: "Tyranny is Tyranny let it come from whom it may. A People’s History of the United States, 1492-Present, section 13, By Howard Zinn, American historian and political science professor at Boston uni.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:28 AM
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LMAO

I hear ya! Don't get burned though!


See ya buddy,
Milt



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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Thats cool. Think what you want but most liberals are socialists, whether they know it or not.

If you are for green energy, you might be a socialist.
If you are for common property, you might be a socialist.
If you think that abortions should be paid for by tax payers, you might be a socialist.
If you think that everybody should be treated fairly, you might be a socialist.
If you think that women should have more rights then men, you might be a socialist.
If you support gay marriage, you might be a socialist.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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reply to post by thehoneycomb
 


You are a clear example that watching Fox news is bad for you.

Fox news is just trash as far a journalism goes. No facts, just biased opinions of people who clearly have a political interest in spinning things, mixed with pointless sensationalism like the rest of Rupert Murdoch "news" empire.

I watched the O'Reilly factor a couple of times and I had to cancel my cable TV for the sake of my sanity.

Now you come here to tell people to watch Fox news and you can't make the difference between socialism and fascism. You are their target audience: uneducated, uninformed, unhappy. So you come here to troll on a forum and you make a fool of yourself.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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Trust me I was not briefed by FOX on socialism I went to the source.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by ladykenzie
 


Thats cool. Think what you want but most liberals are socialists, whether they know it or not.

If you are for green energy, you might be a socialist.
If you are for common property, you might be a socialist.
If you think that abortions should be paid for by tax payers, you might be a socialist.
If you think that everybody should be treated fairly, you might be a socialist.
If you think that women should have more rights then men, you might be a socialist.
If you support gay marriage, you might be a socialist.


Haha yup, sounds like the old me. Trust me, break away from the system. You'll feel better. Plus, our cookies taste better on the free side.
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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reply to post by ladykenzie
 


the stereotype of Fox News watchers


Would you like to let us know what that stereotype is? Make sure you don't "point fingers" (even though you already did), or cast insults though.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:36 AM
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Really? they are not free.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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reply to post by thehoneycomb
 


That's pretty ignorant of you.

Why did you come here if you're trying to promote such nonsense?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:39 AM
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reply to post by The Sword
 


What do you mean?

People bash on FOX all the time, I thought it was about time somebody stood up for them.

Whats the matter you don't like diversity?

Is the news not credible if you disagree?



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:40 AM
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Hitler used economics. Hitler used politics. But Hitler was not a fascist, sociliast or anything else. Hitler's movement was religious. The NAZI party was a religion and the SS were a religious order. If you do not know this, then you stopped reading way too soon. Hitler's suicide was not an act of desperation. He offered up the spirit. The order moved to America where it already had a huge following. Today they are still "those who lift up" their faith. I always wondered why the German people seemed so oblivious then I found out that they are not the only ones.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by ladykenzie
 


the stereotype of Fox News watchers


Would you like to let us know what that stereotype is? Make sure you don't "point fingers" (even though you already did), or cast insults though.

See ya,
Milt


Sure, the stereotype is exactly what people in this thread say: that people that watch Fox News are brainwashed and manipulated and don't have a realistic idea of what's going on the world, especially regarding foreign relations. I did not say that that stereotype is always true, just like I wouldn't say that a stereotype that women are bad drivers is true, or that all pit bulls want to rip your face off is true~ but the stereotypes exist, and I didn't make them up, sorry that they're out there but you can't deny that many people think that about Fox News watchers. Again ~ nowhere did I say that there is truth to the Fox News stereotype, I just acknowledged that it exists, and you can't deny its existence. I did say that OP fit that stereotype on this particular occasion by stating that people who don't like Fox News are socialists.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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Honestly, I like this discussion. It makes me feel better about not watching Fox News anymore.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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reply to post by townio
 

Can't you read? He did it for the warmth!


I had to cancel my cable TV for the sake of my sanity.

I may watch the FOX channel from time to time, but at least I'm smart enough to change the channel if I don't like the show.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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I don't watch ANY of those cable news outfits.

It's all BULL#. They are not called the MoronStreet Media for nothing.

Maybe you should turn the TV off and find a more intelligent source of news.






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