Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by mastahunta
No the point that THE PEOPLE were left winged SOCIALISTS. Kinda like you folks.
Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by mastahunta
No the point that THE PEOPLE were left winged SOCIALISTS. Kinda like you folks.
Let us not destroy those wonderful machines that produce efficiently and cheaply. Let us control them. Let us profit by their efficiency and cheapness. Let us run them for ourselves. That, gentlemen, is socialism...
...There were writers of the early twentieth century who spoke for socialism or criticized the capitalist system harshly-not obscure pamphleteers, but among the most famous of American literary figures, whose books were read by millions: Upton Sinclair, Jack London, Theodore Dreiser, Frank Norris.
Lipton Sinclair's novel The Jungle, published in 1906, brought the conditions in the meatpacking plants of Chicago to the shocked attention of the whole country, and stimulated demand for laws regulating the meat industry. But also, through the story of an immigrant laborer, Jurgis Rudkus, it spoke of socialism, of how beautiful life might be if people cooperatively owned and worked and shared the riches of the earth. The Jungle was first published in the Socialist newspaper Appeal to Reason; it was then read by millions as a hook, and was translated into seventeen languages...
..One of the influences on Upton Sinclair's thinking was a book, People of the Abyss, by Jack London. London was a member of the Socialist party. He had come out of the slums of San Francisco, the child of an unwed mother. He had been a newsboy, a cannery worker, a sailor, a fisherman, had worked in a jute mill and a laundry, hoboed the railroads to the East Coast, been clubbed by a policeman on the streets of New York and arrested for vagrancy in Niagara Falls, watched men beaten and tortured in jail, pirated oysters in San Francisco Bay, read Flaubert, Tolstoy, Melville, and the Communist Manifesto, preached socialism in the Alaskan gold camps in the winter of 1896, sailed 2,000 miles back through the Bering Sea, and became a world-famous writer of adventure books. In 1906, he wrote his novel The Iron Heel, with its warning of a fascist America, its ideal of a socialist brotherhood of man. In the course of it, through his characters, he indicts the system...
...Around 1776, certain important people in the English colonies made a discovery that would prove enormously useful for the next two hundred years. They found that by creating a nation, a symbol, a legal unity called the United States, they could take over land, profits, and political power from favorites of the British Empire. In the process, they could hold back a number of potential rebellions and create a consensus of popular support for the rule of a new, privileged leadership...
...When the Declaration of Independence was read, with all its flaming radical language, from the town hall balcony in Boston, it was read by Thomas Crafts, a member of the Loyal Nine group, conservatives who had opposed militant action against the British. Four days after the reading, the Boston Committee of Correspondence ordered the townsmen to show up on the Common for a military draft. The rich, it turned out, could avoid the draft by paying for substitutes; the poor had to serve' This led to rioting, and shouting: "Tyranny is Tyranny let it come from whom it may. A People’s History of the United States, 1492-Present, section 13, By Howard Zinn, American historian and political science professor at Boston uni.
Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by ladykenzie
Thats cool. Think what you want but most liberals are socialists, whether they know it or not.
If you are for green energy, you might be a socialist.
If you are for common property, you might be a socialist.
If you think that abortions should be paid for by tax payers, you might be a socialist.
If you think that everybody should be treated fairly, you might be a socialist.
If you think that women should have more rights then men, you might be a socialist.
If you support gay marriage, you might be a socialist.
the stereotype of Fox News watchers
Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by ladykenzie
the stereotype of Fox News watchers
Would you like to let us know what that stereotype is? Make sure you don't "point fingers" (even though you already did), or cast insults though.
See ya,
Milt
I had to cancel my cable TV for the sake of my sanity.
