FOX News is Great!!!

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Sorry to say. Republicans have fox. Liberals have everything else. I myself feel that the party lines are too blurred anyway for any changes to take place. I have both Republican and democratic beliefs, which is probable the way most of the US feels. However, people are too ingrained on how they feel about one side or the other that all they will do is fight with one side or another. Our country actually believes we have a choice. One or another is not a choice. We should at least have 5 different parties to side with, term limits and no more lobyists.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


You are brainwashed, you showed it clearly with your pathetic line at the end. I'm so damn tired of this sham left vs right war tearing our country apart and keeping the people distracted from the things that really matter. This is why I am independent and hate the 2 party system.

You are truly a sad, sad soul if you have to resort to pathetic overused one liners like that "liberal tree hugging hippies". That is straight out of fox news/mass media style brainwashing. I'm so sick of hearing these catch phrases revomited out by those who can't think for themselves and believe all the propaganda they hear. Everything that benefits anyone but the rich is evil "socialism" or "class warfare", everyone that lost a job or is poor is "just lazy", or everyone that protests is a "hippie" yadayada, lines straight out of the Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Fox News, CNN etc. propaganda machines. It's clear none of the people who throw out these 1 liners even know what the words really mean. It's so sad to see people who actually fall for this # propaganda and then even repeat it.

You argue people should watch Fox News, then you ruin it all and give away your true hand by showing how brainwashed you are by fox news in the last line with a pathetic generalizing "liberal true hugging hippies".

All national TV "news" stations are an utter joke and fraud who pick our presidential candidates for us (constantly telling us who "doesn't have a chance" cause they said so, and otherwise torpedoing whoever they don't like so no one votes for them), feed us ridiculous propaganda and burn catch phrases into our head, and otherwise tell us what to think. Yea we should all watch fox news so we can be another brainwashed drone spouting 1 liners like "liberal tree hugging hippies, socialism blahblahblah". I feel bad for you, and maybe it's you who should STOP watching Fox News, so you can think for yourself again and stop being indoctrinated and feeding in to this stupid red vs blue war.

Originally posted by mge1204
reply to post by thehoneycomb

 

Sorry to say. Republicans have fox. Liberals have everything else.

Can you show me the percentage of liberal newspapers and AM talk radio stations vs. Republican ones?
Can you find a liberal AM talk channel at all?

This should not offend you.

Flame away, liberal tree hugging hippies!

Unless you are a liberal tree hugging hippy.

I'm a tree hugging liberal. I've tried to watch Fox News, I can't. They aren't a credible news source because they try to pass off their opinions as news. That's ridiculous. I don't pay any attention the to the Wall Street Journal, it was a wonderful source of news, but now, they aren't a credible news source either. I can't watch MSNBC either, they're too political. I get most of my news off the web and from Bloomberg. Fox News is slowly preparing the ignorant masses for the day when the U.S. becomes a fascist country.

How boring would ATS be if we all agreed with each other? Going into this thread I knew the flames were coming. If we were to take a poll of every member on ATS I think we would find that most of the members here lean towards the left, thats fine and I used to find it annoying but then again what would we debate if we all agreed.

Now all I suggested is that people who disagree with FOX just give it a view from time to time to get both sides of the story. But how many folks out there come out swinging, because I said something that was not negative about FOX?

Ok lets pretend I came out and said I stand behind Israel, how many of you folks would automatically disagree?
If I said I stand behind Palestine, how many of you folks would just agree and discuss how evil Israel is?

Point being there are two sides to every story, so what is the harm of debate and at least listening to both sides?

reply to post by LuchFrawg420

TheHoneyComb you are an idiot and I hope that the day comes where people like you are hung in the streets for holding humanity back for so long.

Wow! That seems like a reasonable solution.

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Originally posted by TamaraChristine

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by The Sword

 

What do you mean?

People bash on FOX all the time, I thought it was about time somebody stood up for them.

When does that part kick in?
Just saying you like them does nothing to convince anyone else that they should.

To answer your question, I don't really care what other people think. Why do they hate on me just cause I said something positive about FOX news?

It makes no difference to me really. It's a free country and though the MSM may be hijacked, you still have the freedom to choose to watch whatever network you want. That was my point really, with all the liberal media that bashes on FOX, FOX calls itself Fair and Balanced. Because they counter the liberal media, not because they are fair and balanced, by all means they are conservative.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by ANOK

 

Hitler was a socialist you fool.

I'm pretty sure this is a troll, but I'll bite.

No, Hitler was not a Socialist. With all due respect, you need to do some research on the "political compass". Hitler was a far right extremist authoritarian who created a "blood religion" called Nazism. The National Socialist Party was merely a label, and had absolutely nothing to do with Socialism. Not even a drop.

Stalin on the other hand was an extreme left socialist/communist/collectivist with authoritarian views.

If you'll notice the common denominators here, it's extremism and authoritarianism.

Nascar is great too.............

reply to post by L00kingGlass


Really, cause I don't see any difference between the NAZI party and those who claim I should be hanged by being so disagreeable. Just using that as an example of course but I challenge you to prove me wrong.

And for the record. Here you go.

en.wikipedia.org...

Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany.[6] The ideology was developed first by Anton Drexler and then Adolf Hitler as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[7] Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, though such aspects were later downplayed in the 1930s to gain the support from industrial owners for the Nazis, focus was shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[8]

I did not have too look very hard to find that. So who needs to do more research? Me or you?

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Wake up sheep. Seriously. Im so sick of these drones that act as if this system still works. Nothing in this system still works and that includes the media and the illusion of a political party. People need to start indentifying themselves as Americans instead of right, left, democrat, republican, etc. etc. And until people get out of this mindset that its "my team vs your team" they can never awaken to the fact that this republic is in a true war for its very existence.

You want to know what the real solutions are? You want to know what is more important than what your half thought out opinion of Fox News is? We have a criminal in office in Obama that has commited multiple illegal acts against our constitution and is very much able to be impeached this very second and not one person in the mainstream media (yes that includes Fox) wants to bring up this point.

So here you go Mr. I support Glenn Beck because even though Glenn literally rips every second of his content from Alex Jones; Alex Jones is "too crazy" just like Ron Paul is "too #ing constitutional" so I feel sane by listening to Beck instead: Grow up and understand that history states that WE FALL if we continue on this path. Party doesnt matter. Your opinion on Fox News doesnt matter. Glenn The God Beck doesnt matter. This REPUBLIC will fall if people dont wake the # up. Do you understand that?!

Facts don't lie .... FOX news does

"SHUT UP" .... Bill O'Reilly

The Telecommunications Act of 1996 specifically restricts Corporate ownership to 49.7% (not 49.6 or 49.8) because that's exactly what Rupert Murdock and NewsCorp owned at the time. That's when the restriction of ownership of TV and Newspapers also went out the window. Hence the birth of Fox News, since they no longer had to classify their programs like "Hard Copy" and "A Current Affair" as "Infotainment". Welcome to the no-spin zone

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Never said the system was working for me.

Also I like Ron Paul and for the record, before he was running for President, he appeared on FOX News almost on a daily basis.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by ANOK

 

Gee, so you noticed the true nature of socialism and choose to ignore it?

You're problem not mine. I am a capitalist, not a socialist, not a communist or a national socialist.

I AM A CAPITALIST.

I noticed how you got called out for your dis-info and then you changed the subject.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion or personal view but what you are doing deserves no respect.

reply to post by empireoflizards


Yes because ANOK was trying to derail the discussion into a debate about socialism as he has done many times before, and though I would enjoy to debate him on the subject he is such an avid socialist that there would be no point arguing with him. He is set in his views and I am set in mine.

Originally posted by StarPeace
Nascar is great too.............

These caricatures are pretty awful.

Fox News, guns, hicks, etc... it's sad and humorous at the same time. What's worse is that people feel they need to define themselves through political caricatures. Ignorant people (of which there are many) mimic this behavior like a child would, and most don't have any clue what it all means. They just want to be "bad-ass", they want to feel like an M-A-N man.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Can I ask you why you think its cool to have Hitler in your picture and then complain when people "derail" your thread about socialism or some other random issue about Nazis etc. etc.?

Im just curious. I mean if you want Hitler as your picture bro by all means have fun. Im just saying you cant really complain when people dont really take you seriously. A bit like bating the troll init?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by L00kingGlass

 

Really, cause I don't see any difference between the NAZI party and those who claim I should be hanged by being so disagreeable. Just using that as an example of course but I challenge you to prove me wrong.

And for the record. Here you go.

en.wikipedia.org...

Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany.[6] The ideology was developed first by Anton Drexler and then Adolf Hitler as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[7] Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, though such aspects were later downplayed in the 1930s to gain the support from industrial owners for the Nazis, focus was shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[8]

I did not have too look very hard to find that. So who needs to do more research? Me or you?

I'm sorry you are incorrect, it's far right nationalism, I did a paper on it in college. Your quote even proves it. Hitler hated communists, and called them all Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb

And for the record. Here you go.

en.wikipedia.org...

Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany.[6] The ideology was developed first by Anton Drexler and then Adolf Hitler as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[7] Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, though such aspects were later downplayed in the 1930s to gain the support from industrial owners for the Nazis, focus was shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[8]

I did not have too look very hard to find that. So who needs to do more research? Me or you?

Wow. Um... that'd be you. I'd suggest you start by actually reading the quote you posted. Then continue through the next few paragraphs on the wikipedia entry you linked to. If you're still interested in research at that point, I could recommend some books and stuff. Most of them will say the same thing you just quoted - that Hitler was not a socialist, and that the Nazi party was not socialist. Kudos to you for doing the research, though.