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reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 06:56 PM by Gibbon
reply to post by Destinyone



I won't need anyone to set a place for me...I have enough set aside for a rainy day. I'm just not as worked up as some folks around here.

If the s@#t really does hit the fan, all of the high strung folks on this forum are going to fall over dead from a heart attack before they ever get a chance to cook their first cup of mylar packed rice.

Fear-tardedness is an illness.


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 07:32 PM by Destinyone
reply to post by Gibbon




Then we shan't cross swords Sir. We are on the same side...a plate, if needed, will be at my table.

But, don't you think, it's wise to gently bring/talk along those who are interested in being a bit safer for them and their families, should there be an emergency? I'd much rather have a well prepared neighbor/guest than a completely clueless one.

Des


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 10:01 PM by yaluk
reply to post by WatchRider



of course they will make that a cause for suspicion.

If anyone tries to find away around the system they will make it so there is no way around it. Property taxes was just the beginning.. I realized the game was rigged and we were serfs when my father informed of that tax... i was 15.


the goal is to funnel everyone down the path they want everyone to go... All these laws bills or whatever are there to plug all the holes to make sure everyone follows the program.

this is the same reason why cash transactions are coming under fire too.


Little by little our "choice" to do anything is being taken away Alll under the guise of National Security Screw that I would rather be free with a risk at every turn than to be a prisoner being told what to do day in and day out.


It's sad that the majority of the people in this country do not see what is going on. That is why I feel no sorrow for my country.. this is what my country men want. when they realize they have been screwed i will laugh at them.

bunch of turds
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reply posted on 1-12-2011 @ 12:11 AM by TheCounselor
reply to post by blasphemusbudda


Seriously. Not one of them has ever had college kids come home on weekends? You better have that much food just to last til Monday.
I recall my mother talking about rations during the Depression, and the dreaded sin of hoarding food put forth by the government. She was one of ten kids, they ate in shifts. One person's weekly shopping is another person's terrorist stash.
I'm not a food hoarder, I'm more of a generous host.
I'm now waiting for the MIB to come busting in to confiscate my Christmas cookie supplies. They'll arrest the Gingerbread Boys.


reply posted on 1-12-2011 @ 01:24 AM by Redevilfan09
reply to post by HomerinNC



That doesn't make you a terrorist, that makes you a well prepared soldier for a civil war against the pricks who label you a terrorist.


reply posted on 1-12-2011 @ 05:42 AM by Gibbon
reply to post by Destinyone



I think a better way to get people involved and prepared is to stay sane and balanced in our approach so that people don't fly off on extremes.

Rand Paul stated that there are laws on the books that classify you as a potential terrorist if you store food or ammo. As far as I am aware that was a DOJ intelligence report not a law that that came from, and it outlined characteristics of known terrorists from the past as potential red flags for the future.

I am with Rand Paul on his opposition to the bill in question, but it is fear tardedness to overstate or flat out lie about the facts to get people all worked up in support of your position.

If your going to get worked up about something at least get your facts straight.

Enough fear mongering.
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reply posted on 1-12-2011 @ 12:03 PM by TheCounselor
reply to post by Gibbon



Yah, it takes about a page and a half to get to the fact of the matter.

Alll of ats is built on this model

Explosive Header with Exclamation Point!
Outraged over the top post.
Several posts acknowledging the horror.
One guy asks a question.
One guy refutes.
The comics enter.
Puddle of argument ensues, modorators thin the herd.
A 180 of the original post makes it debut.
Five years later some new poster adds his two cents.

I tale every new thread, water it down by fifty percent, and twist the data to a ninety degree angle, either to the left or right, depending on the poster. Twenty posts later, you might get a kernel of truth.
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reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 04:58 AM by WatchRider
Originally posted by Gibbon
reply to
post by Destinyone



I think a better way to get people involved and prepared is to stay sane and balanced in our approach so that people don't fly off on extremes.

Rand Paul stated that there are laws on the books that classify you as a potential terrorist if you store food or ammo. As far as I am aware that was a DOJ intelligence report not a law that that came from, and it outlined characteristics of known terrorists from the past as potential red flags for the future.

I am with Rand Paul on his opposition to the bill in question, but it is fear tardedness to overstate or flat out lie about the facts to get people all worked up in support of your position.

If your going to get worked up about something at least get your facts straight.

Enough fear mongering.
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I'd normally agree with you but this is very real and uncomfortable. Especially coming from some of the highest in the land.

Also, there's been LEO's who 'off-the-record' consider preppers and survivalists to be lumped into the same category as 'dangerous citizens'...
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