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Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
So Anders Breivik is innocent, the Universe did it? I'd like to see how that goes down at the parole board hearing.edit on 29-11-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: quick tidy up
Yeah, the universe did it. That doesn't mean what the universe did was good, but nevertheless, it did it. We did it. Should we all be punished? No. Even cancerous cells constitute the make-up of a body. But to get rid of the cancer, do you kill the whole body?
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
So Anders Breivik is innocent, the Universe did it? I'd like to see how that goes down at the parole board hearing.edit on 29-11-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: quick tidy up
Originally posted by purplemer
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
So Anders Breivik is innocent, the Universe did it? I'd like to see how that goes down at the parole board hearing.edit on 29-11-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: quick tidy up
look at it another way.. If there is no difference between the universe and the mind... Who did it then... For all you know the universe could be an epiphenomena of the mind..
The universe is your mirror what do you see...
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by smithjustinb
I mean, other than that, oneness has many other benefits. You become confident. You feel whole. All that. But yeah, maybe it is like you said. After all, who wants to feel that way??
Actually I feel fine with what I believe. I do feel whole and confident and happy.
You still haven't answered some of my questions...
Do you use money to buy things?
Do you eat?
Do you live in a home or apt?
Do you work?
Why?
Oh I definitely agree that individuality has its purpose.
How? I thought everything was one/the universe?edit on 11/29/2011 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
So Anders Breivik is innocent, the Universe did it? I'd like to see how that goes down at the parole board hearing.edit on 29-11-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: quick tidy up
I don't know who that is, nor is it relevant. I can see that he must be 'someone' who did something bad.
You're one of the ones I was talking about was missing the point here. Crimes should not go unpunished. The point of the thread is about identity and labeling being barriers to observing reality as it is.
Yeah, the universe did it. That doesn't mean what the universe did was good, but nevertheless, it did it. We did it. Should we all be punished? No. Even cancerous cells constitute the make-up of a body. But to get rid of the cancer, do you kill the whole body? No that would be stupid. Everything should be dealt with in accordance with the needs of the whole and not just the individual. That is the point of this thread.
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by smithjustinb
Yeah, the universe did it. That doesn't mean what the universe did was good, but nevertheless, it did it. We did it. Should we all be punished? No. Even cancerous cells constitute the make-up of a body. But to get rid of the cancer, do you kill the whole body?
Well if the great "one-ness" made the cancer, who are we (who don't exist anyway) to tell the universe cancer (which doesn't exist) is bad? Should "we" deign to tell the universe it made a mistake?
Wouldn't that be going against the "way" of the universe as you see it? To treat cancer, one is declaring their individuality and saying they deserve to go against nature (universe) and to save their individual self.
edit on 11/29/2011 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by smithjustinb
Ah old chinese saying - man under 30 without ideals is heartless, man over thirty with ideals is brainless. My main complaint about your post is it stems from semantics and as such has nothing to do with "reality"
Do you eat?
The universe is self-perpetuating.
Do you live in a home or apt?
The universe universes in the universe.
Do you work?
The universe does what the universe does
Why?
That is the same question as, "Why does the universe exist?" The answer cannot be found. We just do.
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by smithjustinb
Wow what a lot of double-speak and avoidance.
"How are you today?"
The universe is as the universe is.
"What did you do today?"
The universe does what the universe does.
"What's your name?"
What is a name? Names don't exist in the one universe. We are all one. I am the universe.
On and on and on...
edit on 11/29/2011 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Conceptualization is the path to unlightenment.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its true. There is no ME and there is no YOU. There is no COMPUTER that I am typing THIS on right now, and I am not even typing IT.
All of these are just concepts used to define a separation. We are crafting an illusion with these concepts. Illusions deter you from seeing the truth of reality as it is.
There is only the UNIverse. There is no separation from that. Oneness.
The truth is freedom. The truth is divine. Jesus said, "I am the truth." He didn't say, "I know the truth." He didn't say, "I have the truth." or "I heard the truth.". He said, "I am the truth." The truth is what we all are as one.
We cannot define God, the truth. All we can know is that it is what we are.
Conceptualization is the path to unlightenment.
There is no me. There is only universe.edit on 29-11-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
ETA: The point of this thread is only to encourage the realization that the concept of "you" is a misidentification that perpetuates the illusion of separation. There is no you. There is only the universe.edit on 29-11-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
What you have called, "you" all your life was really an misidentification that perpetuated the illusion of separation. The proper identification is that of unity. What is is what is and is what you are.edit on 29-11-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by smithjustinb
Ah old chinese saying - man under 30 without ideals is heartless, man over thirty with ideals is brainless. My main complaint about your post is it stems from semantics and as such has nothing to do with "reality"
The point of my thread is to inspire people to move beyond classifying things as that and this and see that it is all just this because once you do, then you can be aware of reality as it is. It has everything to do with reality.edit on 29-11-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)