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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
reply to post by CREAM
You're a muslim posting deceptions in an effort to spread Islam.
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by IAMIAM
That's not my reality.
My Muslim roommate researched the history extensively for over a year. He is very smart and very thorough. He fiercely disagrees with you.
BTW, he's one of the many thousands of Muhammed's descendants.
Muhammed was primarily DRIVEN by conquest, pedophilia, lust, greed, money, power.
What he did was evil to the max.
His followers are largely following suit.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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1- Our Founding Fathers had favorable views toward Islam Benjamin Franklin famously stated that the standards of religious freedom in America had to be so broad that "Even if the Mufti [chief jurist] of Constantinople [from the Muslim Ottoman Empire] were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service." This openness to Islam was actually quite commonplace among America’s Founding Fathers. When George Washington was asked in 1784 what kind of workers should be hired to work on Mount Vernon, he responded by stating that they should hire the best workers, regardless of their background: “If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists...”
2- Thomas Jefferson studied the Qur’an If there is a figure more quintessentially American than Benjamin Franklin or even George Washington, it would have to be Thomas Jefferson. In 1765, Jefferson was studying for his bar exam to qualify as a lawyer. In order to acquaint himself with what various traditions had to offer about law, he purchased for his own private use the most recent and accurate translation of the Qur’an available, a work by George Sale called The Koran: Commonly Called the Alcoran of Mohammed, which had been translated from the original Arabic in 1734. Jefferson’s personal copy of the Qur’an eventually became part of the holdings of the Library of Congress, and recently gained a great deal of attention when it was used in the swearing-in ceremony of Keith Ellison, the first Muslim American elected to the United States Congress.
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Jesus was equal to the Father in power and in nature and it as through Jesus that the earth and the heavens were created.
The scriptures themselves make it abundantly clear that this is not true, for example jesus (the jesus that appears in the bibles that is) admitted he did not know something which would immediately preclude any claims to omniscience , he also questioned his god (yahwhe/eloi) in relation as to why he had forsaken him.
He's NOT ABOUT to allow satan and the globalist oligarchy have all the dramatic demonstrations in these END TIMES.
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
Obviousness it doesn't occur to tiny xtian minds . . . To my mind this is one of the reasons that christians are some of the most dangerous people on the planet.
Please feel free to provide the evidence proving the existence of yahwhe
Originally posted by DisIllusioned PatRiot
The entire Christian Religion has been so bastardized by the Church and what ever ruler wanted it changed to suit his need. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.... Are those Hebrew names? No they are English. Either changed from there originals or made up completely. Christ name isn't even Jesus. The English equivalent is Joshua, but it was changed by the Church because Joshua was too common of a name they didn't want people confused or praying to the wrong Joshua.
The King James version of the bible that modern Christians cling to was written in the "Kings English" the language of the times. How many different Names, Ideas or whole verses where changed purposely or just mistranslated? How can you be certain that God is not Allah when all you have to go off of is a poorly written biased book?
The next thing you're going to say is Jesus has blonde hair and blue eyes. He looks like and Englishmen why not say he spoke our modern language? do you get the sarcasm?
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
Obviousness it doesn't occur to tiny xtian minds . . . To my mind this is one of the reasons that christians are some of the most dangerous people on the planet.
A third of Baghdad’s population was Jewish by the end of the First World War but they were forced to flee during the Second World War, which saw 180 killed in one day.
Jews living in Iraq were then branded Zionists and traitors after the creation of Israel in 1948 and when Iraq sent an army to fight in Palestine, Yentob says in the programme.
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According to a report from the U. S. State department, there are virtually no churches left in Afghanistan. War, Taliban influence and a lack of government protection have eliminated just about all non-Muslim religious communities. In fact, the State Department’s report says that the last Christian church left in the country was destroyed in March of 2010. It is estimated that 99% of Afghanis are Muslim.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I think when youre praying to the Messiah he knows who youre referring to. Jesus is not a moron. For someone who could see the future and see the past and read what is in your heart he did surprisingly well.
It doesn't matter if it was bastardized or not. What matters is whats in your heart and if you follow his teaching. There is alot of evidence and passages in the bible that support the deity of Jesus. The only thing any of us has to go on is blind faith because not a one of us was alive in those times to see him. You just have to have faith. For some people this is easier than it is others and some people cannot have any faith at all beyond what they see with their eyes. If you want to know who Jesus really is? Open your heart to him. He showed me who he really is without even reading the bible. When i pray to him, my prayers are answered, if he was not God then my prayers would fall on deaf ears and go unanswered. I don't pray for my benefit, i pray for the benefit of others and for those who are in need. He has taken care of my needs by saving my soul, the least i can do is live my life for him and for his cause and to do his work so that others can come to know him through me.
Originally posted by CREAM
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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I believe in one God of Love too. Allah is just a word, just like the word God, that's all there is too it.
" I guess we will find out who is wrong and who is right when we die yeah? As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. In the end someone is going to be right and someone is going to be wrong, and it's going to suck for the losers."
OK, well I just told you I am getting in Arabic "God willing" tattooed on my back because it's like the Our Father that says "Thy will be done" I do a lot of volunteer work and my dream is open a non-profit organisation to help out my friends in Mozambique. When I say Allah, I mean God, or the Creator, or The Source, or the Great Spirit, or The Buddah, WHATEVER you want to call it.
I let my heart guide me, and if that means I am a "loser" and I will burn in hell forever. Fine. As Tupac said, "only God can judge me"edit on 28-11-2011 by CREAM because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I don't believe in preaching hell. I'm a missionary baptist not a southern baptist or pentecostal. They preach about hellfire and damnation. I'd rather preach about God's love and how he has given mankind his gift of salvation through Jesus the Christ. You bring more souls to Christ to get saved by preaching about his love versus "the wrath of God". When the bible speaks about "fearing the Lord your God" it doesn't mean to literally fear him it means to revere him. You truly cannot love someone or even God himself if you fear them or Him. God wants your love, not your fear. He wanted the Adam to love him so much he gave him free will and after he fell God loved him so much to keep inventing ways to save his friend, first by the Mosaic laws and when those no longer worked he provided us with Yeshua ha Meshiach to seal us to him forever, all we have to do is believe. The simplest thing in all the world to do is believe, yet believing is also the hardest thing in the world to do for some are too afraid to step out on faith and dare to believe what they cannot see without their eyes and some flat out refuse to believe. It is those who are truly the infidel. Maybe the word for God is Allah in arabic, so be it. Ultimately i know who i want to be with and who i want to worship for eternity. I want to dwell in the house my my Lord and King, and i would be happy even being his footstool!
Matthew 27 "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" Psalms 22 1. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, Psalms 22 31. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this. The Rabbi was quoting scripture,.
and those that knew. understood
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent
31They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
and i,ply this is referring to jesus as there is plainly a fixed time period precluding it -
30A seed shall serve him;
30A seed shall serve him;
and those that knew. understood