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reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:26 AM by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Ok, so here is a topic I started, a while back

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Mohammed was not a historical person but a concoction after the fact based on a misreading of slogans used by the Jewish/Christian sects that gave rise to Islam. His discussions of the inscriptions of the Dome of the Rock and the claim that Abd al-Malik and a radical interpretation of the ruler Abd al-Malik:

In defining a unitary creed for Arab Christianity, 'Abd al-Malik seems to have reached back to this early Syriac tradition of Jesus as a plain human prophet and used it to oppose the Trinitarian approach of Hellenistic Christianity. In the "Praise Jesus" motto he put on his coins and in his great building, the Dome of the Rock at Jerusalem, he referred to Jesus, the revisionists say, as the "messenger of God."

Thus in Arabic, 'Abd al-Malik's unifying motto about Jesus was rendered as muhammadun rasul allah -- 'The messenger of God is to be praised." Muhammadun is a gerundive, meaning "one who should be praised." rasul is "messenger" and allah is "God."

To anyone with a passing knowledge of Islam, this is a central phrase of the faith and has an entirely different meaning -- "Muhammad is the messenger of God."

What proof is there that 'Abd al-Malik meant rasul allah to refer to Jesus? The proof, say the revisionists, is unambiguous and is provided by the inscriptions that 'Abd al-Malik had written inside the Dome of the Rock, "Allahum salli ala rasulika wa 'abdika isa ibn maryam -- God bless your messenger and servant, Jesus son of Mary" states the text on the inner northwest-north face of the octogaonal arcade. The inner, east-southeast face includes the words, "Inma I-masih isa ibn maryam rasulu llah -- For the Messaiah Jesus, son of Mary, is the messenger of God."


ryviewpoint.blogspot.com...

Still I haven't read this book, but I can't shake the questions.


Fascinating. Reading this makes me want to go read that book. Perhaps Jesus should have left the Apostle John to live all these years to guide the church instead of allowing us to make a mess of it. I guess he had his reasons and were going to find out when we die.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:30 AM by requires1231
reply to post by samsamm9



Christ spoke Aramaic. I don't know anyone who speaks Aramaic.



reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:33 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by IAMIAM



Oh please, I get so tired of the "you are ignorant because you are an American post," ignorance is universal.

and BTW my grandmother spoke seven languages fluently, she was a Catholic,

Oh NOESSSSSSSSSSS!

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reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:36 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by DisIllusioned PatRiot



The next thing you're going to say is Jesus has blonde hair and blue eyes. He looks like and Englishmen why not say he spoke our modern language? do you get the sarcasm?


PLEASE!


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:39 AM by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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post by IAMIAM



Oh please, I get so tired of the "you are ignorant because you are an American post," ignorance is universal.


You are correct, ignorance IS universal.

However, having toured the world and seen with my own eyes the various cultures and their ways, America has a special depth of profound ignorance. America is the premier super power of the world and it's citizenry is left ignorant to what is being done with that power.

Why?

Because they are more concerned with what is going on on the tube than seeing with their own eyes the imperial nature of their government. They were gifted the freeist country in the world, and sold that freedom for bondage.

The rest of the world can see this, but Lady Gaga is the Americans focus. That and enslaving each other with ever more confusing and ridiculous laws that have stripped away any semblance of freedom this nation once had.

I come down harder on Americans because they are MY countrymen.

Let others tend to their countrymen.

With Love,

Your Brother


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:40 AM by BO XIAN
reply to post by ChristianJihad



DENIAL of super abundant evidence

does NOT remove the evidence.

Actually, Jahovah has a long list of names in Scripture.

Provider
Defender
All Mighty One
I AM

I heard a reading of 70 such names a day or so ago.

Sooooooo, you are WRONG about no names

and more WRONG about no evidence.

However, there will soonish be more abundant evidence.

He's NOT ABOUT to allow satan and the globalist oligarchy have all the dramatic demonstrations in these END TIMES.

He will be mighty in behalf of those in the USA who truly worship Him in spirit and in truth from their hearts.

Just as He will be mighty in behalf of shredding His enemies in this land . . . whether He does it with angelic forces, fallen angels/ET's &/Or China/Russia et al
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reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:40 AM by ManjushriPrajna
reply to post by mike_trivisonno



God, Yahweh, Allah. It's all Greek to me.

... Ha. I made a joke. :p


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:51 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by IAMIAM






Because they are more concerned with what is going on on the tube


Many are, but many are working themselves to death.

You paint with to broad of stokes.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:51 AM by BO XIAN
reply to post by IAMIAM



That's not my reality.

My Muslim roommate researched the history extensively for over a year. He is very smart and very thorough. He fiercely disagrees with you.

BTW, he's one of the many thousands of Muhammed's descendants.

Muhammed was primarily DRIVEN by conquest, pedophilia, lust, greed, money, power.

What he did was evil to the max.

His followers are largely following suit.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:52 AM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
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post by mike_trivisonno



God, Yahweh, Allah. It's all Greek to me.

... Ha. I made a joke. :p


You made me laugh, now I am going to go do something useful.

peace out.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:52 AM by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by BO XIAN



There is no evidence in the Quran of Allah being such. Allah is God, lord of all the worlds, anyone who says otherwise is deceived. The God of Jesus was the same exact Allah. How would you explain how Muhammad who was illiterate knew about the events of the bible, some that were explained before, and some that had yet to be explained.
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reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:56 AM by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by BO XIAN




Muhammed was primarily DRIVEN by conquest, pedophilia, lust, greed, money, power.


That is incorrect. Marrying at a yonger age was common those days. Even christians did it. He was not after money and power, show me where in the Quran where greeed, money and power is advocated for.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:57 AM by ChristianJihad
reply to post by lonewolf19792000





Jesus was equal to the Father in power and in nature and it as through Jesus that the earth and the heavens were created.


The scriptures themselves make it abundantly clear that this is not true, for example jesus (the jesus that appears in the bibles that is) admitted he did not know something which would immediately preclude any claims to omniscience , he also questioned his god (yahwhe/eloi) in relation as to why he had forsaken him.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:59 AM by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by ChristianJihad



Jesus was not the Son of God. No where in the unedited bible does he claim that he is God. Show me where in the unedited original bible an umabiguous statement where he says he is god.
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