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Vladimir Putin launches Cold War rhetoric at mass rally

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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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" Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, reached back to the rhetoric of the Cold War on Sunday to angrily accuse the West of trying to meddle in his country's forthcoming elections. "



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Vladimir Putin told the West to butt out of his country's internal affairs.Speaking ahead of a parliamentary vote this weekend that his party is expected to win, the country's de facto president-in-waiting told the West to butt out of his country's internal affairs and to stop funding human rights groups that he disdainfully likened to Judas Escariot.




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Good on him
the west needs to keep its hands out of elections and the whole continent of russia with its missle system



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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The West can't properly manage the West, they should definitely leave the East alone...

On the other end...



"All our foreign partners need to understand this: Russia is a democratic country and a reliable and predictable partner with which they can and should reach agreement but on which they cannot impose anything from the outside."

And,



The former KGB spy also plugged a controversial idea to create a 'Eurasian Union' made up of former Soviet republics. Mr Putin could potentially serve two back-to-back six-year terms keeping him in the Kremlin until 2024.


Will Putin be remembered as the father of Totalitarian Democracy?...



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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The original idea of a king came from the will of the people (democracy). They all decided as some point in history, that they wanted the government of one man. Russia is going down that same path again. They really want this man to lead them. Is it a failed democracy, or democracy in action? The more things change, the more they stay the same. The real test will come when they decide they do not want him anymore. Will he step aside, or have undermined the democracy by then?



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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I seriously doubt it. I think he's trying to get the Russian people behind him by using us (U.S.) as a "boogeyman" so to speak. Sort of like our politicians do with terrorists. This trick has been used time and time again to get people elected. Pick an enemy that the common people can relate with, be the protector of the people and your indispensable.

Putin, if elected, (likely so) will make some huge changes to Russia this time around. Will make the presidential term 12 years instead of 8 max. Will probably draft some kind of unity agreement between Russia and China and like minded countries. No telling what all he has planned, but he has an agenda and will get elected at all costs.

Then again, since I don't really "know" if that what's Putin is trying to do. Then it's also possible this is why we (u.s.) may be meddling within their affairs. Maybe we're privy to whats going to happen if he's elected and prevention is the best plan of action. Maybe what we're over there doing is the best thing for us.



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by J.Son79


Putin, if elected, (likely so) will make some huge changes to Russia this time around. Will make the presidential term 12 years instead of 8 max.



Stalin would be proud...............................




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Stalin and lenin would be rolling in their graves.Putin has 13 % tax and doesn't steal from poor like the commies.



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Nothing wrong with this.

Last time I checked Russia wasn't the one that was building "Missile Defense systems" in different countries throughout the world to defend them against an invisible boogey man.

If anything the U.S and NATO are the ones that are stuck in a cold war mentality.



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by J.Son79
I seriously doubt it. I think he's trying to get the Russian people behind him by using us (U.S.) as a "boogeyman" so to speak. Sort of like our politicians do with terrorists. This trick has been used time and time again to get people elected. Pick an enemy that the common people can relate with, be the protector of the people and your indispensable.

Putin, if elected, (likely so) will make some huge changes to Russia this time around. Will make the presidential term 12 years instead of 8 max. Will probably draft some kind of unity agreement between Russia and China and like minded countries. No telling what all he has planned, but he has an agenda and will get elected at all costs.

Then again, since I don't really "know" if that what's Putin is trying to do. Then it's also possible this is why we (u.s.) may be meddling within their affairs. Maybe we're privy to whats going to happen if he's elected and prevention is the best plan of action. Maybe what we're over there doing is the best thing for us.


I don't think he targets the U.S specifically? He said the west as in western world.
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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by NowanKenubi
 


The original idea of a king came from the will of the people (democracy). They all decided as some point in history, that they wanted the government of one man. Russia is going down that same path again. They really want this man to lead them. Is it a failed democracy, or democracy in action? The more things change, the more they stay the same. The real test will come when they decide they do not want him anymore. Will he step aside, or have undermined the democracy by then?


But kings, though named many different things, were around long before the ancient greeks gave the world the concept and were the first to practise democracy.

Prior to democracy it was common practise that one person ruled.

Dēmokratía (rule of the people) There's no one man in the concept.
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posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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Just like all other countries who hate the US. He is just using the USA as the evil doers, the bad guys or just plainly as a tool to rally cry behind in order to get himself elected. Its the same language different country. They try to use politics however they can.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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Stalin and lenin would be rolling in their graves.Putin has 13 % tax and doesn't steal from poor like the commies.


Um OK.........................



• Russian spies use senior mafia bosses to carry out criminal operations such as arms trafficking. • Law enforcement agencies such as the police, spy agencies and the prosecutor's office operate a de facto protection racket for criminal networks. • Rampant bribery acts like a parallel tax system for the personal enrichment of police, officials and the KGB's successor, the federal security service (FSB). • Investigators looking into Russian mafia links to Spain have compiled a list of Russian prosecutors, military officers and politicians who have dealings with organised crime networks. • Putin is accused of amassing "illicit proceeds" from his time in office, which various sources allege are hidden overseas.


Kremlin relies on criminals and rewards them with political patronage, while top officials collect bribes 'like a personal taxation system'



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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guardian is a british rag owned by oiligarchs. As for russian mafia ,check their top essentially jewish ,many with israeli passports .Surprisingly a lot of chechen terrorists,russian mafiaso,corrupt politicans and defectors stay in the UK.UK is a hub of islamic fundamentalists too.

russian mafia has lost dominance under putin ,they nowwhere have power like Yeltsin era.




Low tax and excessively laissez faire? The news reporting about Russia is so devoid of information that few Americans know about this. Russia did a couple of years ago what Ronald Reagan couldn t pull off; it has introduced a flat personal income tax. The single rate for earned income 13%. The corporate income tax rate is 24%, and it is widely considered (even by the Communists) that this is still too high. Dividend income is taxed at 6%. Social taxes are regressive, starting at about 35% but falling to less than 1% for incomes over a few thousand dollars a month. The value added tax is high at 20%, and the Putin administration s next tax bill will propose halving that to 10%. Laissez faire? The state has practically withdrawn from direct involvement in the economy, and with more than 90% of GNP produced in the private sector (including GNP which is supposed to be produced in the shadow economy), Russia is (by that measure) the most capitalist country in Europe. No wonder the old socialists in Brussels are worried about Russia. In Russian universities, obscure Austrian economists dominate the economics courses. The cover story of one issue of Kommersant weekly (Russia s Wall Street Journal) this past January marked the 49th anniversary of Schumpeter' s death (if I remember correctly). [Joseph Schumperter died on January 8, 1950, so it must have been his 52nd anniversary, if I remember my arithmetic. I was surprised that he has such an influence in Russia; he represents dog-eat-dog, law of the jungle economics, which I judge a sure route to social disaster.RH.].
wais.stanford.edu...


seriously,Russia is not like how media shows it. I have stayed in several nations and to be frank there's a lot more freedom and less bureaucracy in Russia compared to USA. Come and visit Russia hopefully some time.

Peace

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posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by sonnny1
 


guardian is a british rag owned by oiligarchs. As for russian mafia ,check their top essentially jewish ,many with israeli passports .Surprisingly a lot of chechen terrorists,russian mafiaso,corrupt politicans and defectors stay in the UK.UK is a hub of islamic fundamentalists too.

russian mafia has lost dominance under putin ,they nowwhere have power like Yeltsin era.




The real source was Wikileaks,but that being said,I have no doubt Russia is a nice place to visit. I have many Russian Friends that would speak otherwise on living there though. Corruption is Corruption,but lets not make Russia this Utopia of the East now..............................

Putin isnt the James Bond hes tried to make himself out to be either. SMERSH is alive and well.........




posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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yes, american diplomats are the 'source'
of the corporatist commie govt .Crony capitalism is far more rampant in our govt than Russia today. Thats like pot calling the kettle.

Yes, I agree Russia is no utopia and has significant corruption issues.But still there is a lot more economic,political freedom and none of pesky gay parade. Also there are no freeloaders and moochers of the system like the west where everything is given to the lazy and welfare queens.You have to work hard ,unlike the soviet era which was full of welfare queens in USSR.Today ,western nations have too many welfare queens.

I was skeptic like you and saw russia as commie hell ,but I saw Putin's policies ,he's a fiscal conservative and believer of tax equality and somewhat a mix b/w libertarianism and statism a somewhat crazy one


.He's turning Russia into a capitalist hard working nation like how our founding fathers.Sadly we are thrashing and insulting our founding fathers by falling in love with communism


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posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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Sorry,I just dont drink Putin kool-aid. He was a KGB agent from 1975-1992. You just dont stop believing in something that was ingrained into your heart and soul. He might be popular in Russia,but I am sure his Mafia cronies,and old KGB cronies under a new banner,have his best interest at heart,and make it seem that the country loves him. State run media also. It was fun talking to you,Peace.



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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Russia thinks too highly of the west, so much that the west would interfere with its totalitarian system of corrupt legal and illegal patronage.


No one from the west is gonna interfere, for Vladmir the impaler will be booted out by his own people, when the cries from the sufferings of the masses of 'Enough is Enough' is heard loud and clear by Spring 2012.

The only Judas in Russia is Putin. He sold out the Russian People for a few pieces of silver, and through him, an entire system of governance based upon corruption, propaganda, threats and fear. Communism may had ended in Russia, but Facism is complete today in that blighted land. When the masses awake, the reversed cries of suffering by the elites will be terrible....



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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A little bit of democracy exists in every form of government. If the people don't like you, they will kill you (democracy).



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