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Topic started on 27-11-2011 @ 08:27 PM by SpreadLoveNotHate

Border deal a hard barrier for Harper's critics to cross


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The new Canada-U.S. border agreement will be unveiled at the White House by Barack Obama and Stephen Harper in early December. When they read it, some people will go ballistic.

(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 09:16 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
Whether you like it or not, the USA remains Canada's biggest strading partner, and is likely to remain so for a very long time -

Here's another article detailing a bit more what is expected to be in it:

Measures under discussion include:

A "one-stop shopping" window for importers who now have to deal with up to half a dozen government agencies.

Less paperwork for companies that could receive duty-free treatment for shipments but currently don't bother because of the hassle.

Special visas for certain business travellers and more emphasis on frequent-traveller and trusted-shipper programs.

Detailed benchmarks that will bring each country's food and auto industries in line.

Synchronized planning at land border-crossings, where there is now little international co-ordination. "The U.S. is expanding in some areas that the Canadians are shrinking, and the Canadians are expanding in some areas where the U.S. is shrinking," said a source. "There's going to be an effort to co-ordinate on that."

This will require Canada to make new, potentially expensive investments in screening and security technologies to keep pace with the Americans. The two countries will have to come up with a joint plan for future spending.

An eventual deal is not expected to include full-scale harmonization of immigration and refugee policies — a possibility that has raised the hackles of critics who fear the deal will cede Canadian sovereignty to the Americans.

www.cbc.ca...

A lot of it is going towards making trade easier, and also less hassle for travelers - if you are Canadian, or have entered Canada, then it looks like it should be easier to cross the border with the USA because Canadian immigration procedures will be closer to US ones - probably more emphasis on biometric passports, etc.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 09:21 PM by jude11
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Whether you like it or not, the USA remains Canada's biggest strading partner, and is likely to remain so for a very long time -

Here's another article detailing a bit more what is expected to be in it:

Measures under discussion include:

A "one-stop shopping" window for importers who now have to deal with up to half a dozen government agencies.

Less paperwork for companies that could receive duty-free treatment for shipments but currently don't bother because of the hassle.

Special visas for certain business travellers and more emphasis on frequent-traveller and trusted-shipper programs.

Detailed benchmarks that will bring each country's food and auto industries in line.

Synchronized planning at land border-crossings, where there is now little international co-ordination. "The U.S. is expanding in some areas that the Canadians are shrinking, and the Canadians are expanding in some areas where the U.S. is shrinking," said a source. "There's going to be an effort to co-ordinate on that."

This will require Canada to make new, potentially expensive investments in screening and security technologies to keep pace with the Americans. The two countries will have to come up with a joint plan for future spending.

An eventual deal is not expected to include full-scale harmonization of immigration and refugee policies — a possibility that has raised the hackles of critics who fear the deal will cede Canadian sovereignty to the Americans.

www.cbc.ca...

A lot of it is going towards making trade easier, and also less hassle for travelers - if you are Canadian, or have entered Canada, then it looks like it should be easier to cross the border with the USA because Canadian immigration procedures will be closer to US ones - probably more emphasis on biometric passports, etc.


Sounds like the same bill of goods we got sold on with NAFTA.

Wasn't that enough of an eye opener to show that it's now the same pack of BS wrapped up in "It's all good for the citizens" crap again?


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 09:25 PM by SpreadLoveNotHate
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul



Hmm, I wonder what screening and security technologies we Canadians are going to be needing to update... Hopefully no TSA-esque installments coming in the future


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 10:09 PM by bobs_uruncle
reply to post by SpreadLoveNotHate


You have to wonder how we have let these @sshats like Harper get away with this kind of crap for so long. Why is it they think they can make up new rules, treaties and laws without our permission, when if not for us, they wouldn't even exist.

And since "we, the people" have created these monsters through apathy and inaction, maybe it's time we lost the apathy and acted and we fired them. You know what they say, "Those who can destroy a thing, control a thing."

Cheers - Dave



reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 01:22 AM by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
A lot of it is going towards making trade easier,


Mulroney said that about the FTA back in 1994. Then there was a national referendum held to kill the FTA, the majority voted against it, and Mulroney pushed it through the night before he left office. Then what happened? US corporations started buying up and downsizing national Canadian business and industry (what else would happen when a country signs an investor's rights agreement with an empire ten times its size?).

I believe it was something like 600,000 jobs lost in the first year alone, followed by deficits. Of course the conservative pawns are claiming more integration with the US will mean more benefits for Canada- they happen to be well connected with the financial elite from both countries who are the ones who benefit the most while regular Canadians have to bend to American corporate demands (NAFTA gave corporations the right to sue governments, and the US uses this right more than others simply due to its size). Harper and Bilderberg Group, anyone?

Further neo-con agenda reading:
‘Now for the Hard Part’: A User's Guide to Renewing the Canadian-American Partnership (Strategic Studies Working Group)

TheComte-
This is a scary part of the agreement IMO. Canada's food inspection is far more stringent than the USA's. With this agreement we will have to lower our standards to the US levels. This means that, in these times of increasing food borne illness, there will only be more and more contaminated food hitting our store shelves.


That's right. In Canada, our government is mostly in charge of food standards and safety protocols. In the US, that falls into the hands of private interests, including corporations that fill the shoes of government observers of industry. What happens when corporations regulate corporations? They work only in the interest of profit, a legally-binding direction. Now it looks like corporations will be able to fight the Canadian government when it tries to continue regulating Canadian food, because neo-liberals have a hard on for keeping the state out of profitable affairs.
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