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Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by Blaine91555
Same as I was thinking, except that the trees on the right are a little sharper. I suppose there could be localised fog to the left though. There is not much view of the sky, with just a hint of cloud and not much contrast from the trees, it's more like a very old picture.
Originally posted by jerryznv
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by jerryznv
I think you are misunderstanding the role of Skeptic. We look for proof while giving every new thing the benefit of the doubt until it can be ruled out as a hoax or mistaken identity. Skeptics actually want to find the real thing. You have to start with no opinion and proceed from there.
I think you are right...and in this case I have decided that until the photo can be scanned and uploaded then there is nothing to talk about.
It needs examined...the fact that it can't be is proof enough that I can't assume it's real...if I were in such a hurry to post this thread and provided this photo...well I would have made it available for speculation...not the case here...just a story and a picture...how am I to swallow that?
Edit: Here's a star for your attempt at correcting me...thanks!edit on 27-11-2011 by jerryznv because: ...
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by jerryznv
I think you are misunderstanding the role of Skeptic. We look for proof while giving every new thing the benefit of the doubt until it can be ruled out as a hoax or mistaken identity. Skeptics actually want to find the real thing. You have to start with no opinion and proceed from there.
Originally posted by davespanners
This one is quite similar, superficially anyway
Looks like that was the 70's style for ufo'sedit on 27-11-2011 by davespanners because: (no reason given)edit on 27-11-2011 by davespanners because: (no reason given)
Do you think everyone interested here automatically knows what they should or should not do before asking? Of course not.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by Blaine91555
Same as I was thinking, except that the trees on the right are a little sharper. I suppose there could be localised fog to the left though. There is not much view of the sky, with just a hint of cloud and not much contrast from the trees, it's more like a very old picture.
I cant get it out of my head I've seen this exact photo before. No telling if there are other prints floating around.
From the fifties through he sixties novelty photo's were quite popular. They were not hoaxes but usually fun stuff like UFO's or giant vegetables on a train car, stuff like that. They were often done by pasting the object on top of a background photo, then airbrushed to hide the edge and a photo of the result was then taken to produce a negative for the final print. Some are very convincing.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by IAMTAT
That helps and I'll see what I can find as far as samples and lists. The color degradation looks right to me. Prior to about 1976 or so the photo's discolored and faded badly if not kept away from light. You should keep it in a envelope to keep light out.
Originally posted by IAMTAT
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by jerryznv
I think you are misunderstanding the role of Skeptic. We look for proof while giving every new thing the benefit of the doubt until it can be ruled out as a hoax or mistaken identity. Skeptics actually want to find the real thing. You have to start with no opinion and proceed from there.
I can only tell you that I am not a hoaxer and have told the truth about how this came to me. I have posted this actual photo about which I have no knowledge as to whether or not it is something someone 'made up' a long time ago and photographed or actually witnessed at the time and snapped a photo. What I do know is that it's an old photo.
Originally posted by jerryznv
Originally posted by IAMTAT
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by jerryznv
I think you are misunderstanding the role of Skeptic. We look for proof while giving every new thing the benefit of the doubt until it can be ruled out as a hoax or mistaken identity. Skeptics actually want to find the real thing. You have to start with no opinion and proceed from there.
I can only tell you that I am not a hoaxer and have told the truth about how this came to me. I have posted this actual photo about which I have no knowledge as to whether or not it is something someone 'made up' a long time ago and photographed or actually witnessed at the time and snapped a photo. What I do know is that it's an old photo.
No offense taken. I'm as interested as everyone else to find out about this photo.
No offense but yes you have no idea...so respectfully I will be critical of the photo.
I don't doubt your honesty and I am not attacking your post...but without more I have to assume that it is fake before I assume it is real...that is the nature of this site and with the millions of fakes you should understand that a person might leer at this skeptically.
Originally posted by jerryznv
Originally posted by IAMTAT
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by jerryznv
I think you are misunderstanding the role of Skeptic. We look for proof while giving every new thing the benefit of the doubt until it can be ruled out as a hoax or mistaken identity. Skeptics actually want to find the real thing. You have to start with no opinion and proceed from there.
I can only tell you that I am not a hoaxer and have told the truth about how this came to me. I have posted this actual photo about which I have no knowledge as to whether or not it is something someone 'made up' a long time ago and photographed or actually witnessed at the time and snapped a photo. What I do know is that it's an old photo.
No offense but yes you have no idea...so respectfully I will be critical of the photo.
I don't doubt your honesty and I am not attacking your post...but without more I have to assume that it is fake before I assume it is real...that is the nature of this site and with the millions of fakes you should understand that a person might leer at this skeptically.
Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Ive heard this exact same back story to a UFO pic before. Father passes away and son finds a photo of a UFO with some writing on the back.
edit on 27-11-2011 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)
No offense taken I'm as interestested as everyone else to find out about this photo.
Originally posted by RickyVelveeta
sharpened the pic up with my iphone (photogene2, great app) and made a few quick adjustments. you can see the detail on the craft a little clearer
edit: it messed up the resolution a little in the edit so disregard this... i am however really looking forward to seeing the hi-res scan of the photo. i think this could really be something, aside from the fact it looks suspiciously '70s'edit on 27-11-2011 by RickyVelveeta because: bad pic
Originally posted by IAMTAT
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by IAMTAT
That helps and I'll see what I can find as far as samples and lists. The color degradation looks right to me. Prior to about 1976 or so the photo's discolored and faded badly if not kept away from light. You should keep it in a envelope to keep light out.
I had my son take a look at the back of the photo paper (younger eyesight to see if there was any other marks besides KONICA and 100...In the upper right corner in very faded grey he found the word 'Long' stamped diagonally (same angle as the others) and upside-down.
I cant get it out of my head I've seen this exact photo before. No telling if there are other prints floating around.