Psychedelic/Dubstep/Binaural Beats part of Illuminati/NWO?, page 2

reply to post by curious7

---

in my quest to learn about "the illuminati" i've come across many sites that talk about the symbolism that they use. and how theres all these symbols in media. i've seen a lot of artists covering one eye in photos, videos, etc. a lot of people think it means that they're influenced by the illuminati. i do find it a bit odd that so many different media personalities do this particular gesture in pictures and videos.

reply to post by RickyVelveeta

---

thank you for replying to my post, i appreciate the info

edit to add: i haven't decided myself if i believe that all these symbols popping up everywhere are related to the illuminati or not. but there are a lot of similar symbols and actions (like the whole "one eye" thing) turning up with these media personalities, so it does sometimes make me wonder why its so common. and why everyone keeps doing it.

reply to post by OhNoItsCritical

---

when it comes to the tuning, that article is just a stockpile of illuminati-related stuff with some added pseudo-math to 'prove' it's correct and that A=432Hz is wrong. it's making a reference to the golden section, while completely ommiting some important things, that A=432Hz is based on C=256Hz, its relation to keplerian interval as well as the fact that tuning is based on the voice.

here's an article worth reading instead - because as far as i believe in the existence of illuminati and their influence on this world, the document you've linked is nothing more than anti-illuminati propaganda - certainly not a scientific paper like this one:
www.schillerinstitute.org...

second thing you're confusing are binaural beats. binaural beats can be perceived only with stereo headphones - and no commercial music is mastered with headphones in mind - even more, such recordings can't be listened to with regular speakers, because then you will hear the distortion causing binaural beats instead of perceiving binaural beats themselves (which are usually below the audible frequency range, hence don't influence listening to the music). i've got some software (cool edit 2000) which can mix binaural beats into any recording, like your favourite music, and i was playing with it a lot since more or less 10 years, so i guess i know what i'm talking about - when you listen to such recording - with headphones! - you can perceive the distortion at the beginning, but then it 'blends in' after a while, when your brain has synchronized itself to the desired frequency. so even with headphones, you can still recognize music mastered to generate binaural beats - with speakers, it's just obvious and simply won't work.
en.wikipedia.org...

at the end, a small comment about psychedelic music - to be precise, psychedelic trance. i've got a friend that's listening to this kind of music since many years, and he's one of the most incredible people i've ever known. open minded, honest, very spiritual and sensitive. i was listening to the exactly same music many times during past years and i wouldn't say it influenced me in any way. and hey, the band we liked the most is infected mushroom - and oh noes - they're israelis!

seriously, if you want to find some hard evidence of illuminati tampering with our reality, follow your government and their actions. by following entertainment industry, you're focusing on the veil - which is exactly what they want you to do, and exactly while they are putting all that masonic symbols in it - they know it gets noticed. you should be looking at the hands of those that operate behind that veil.

Originally posted by jedi_hamster
reply to post by OhNoItsCritical

---

when it comes to the tuning, that article is just a stockpile of illuminati-related stuff with some added pseudo-math to 'prove' it's correct and that A=432Hz is wrong. it's making a reference to the golden section, while completely ommiting some important things, that A=432Hz is based on C=256Hz, its relation to keplerian interval as well as the fact that tuning is based on the voice.

here's an article worth reading instead - because as far as i believe in the existence of illuminati and their influence on this world, the document you've linked is nothing more than anti-illuminati propaganda - certainly not a scientific paper like this one:
www.schillerinstitute.org...

second thing you're confusing are binaural beats. binaural beats can be perceived only with stereo headphones - and no commercial music is mastered with headphones in mind - even more, such recordings can't be listened to with regular speakers, because then you will hear the distortion causing binaural beats instead of perceiving binaural beats themselves (which are usually below the audible frequency range, hence don't influence listening to the music). i've got some software (cool edit 2000) which can mix binaural beats into any recording, like your favourite music, and i was playing with it a lot since more or less 10 years, so i guess i know what i'm talking about - when you listen to such recording - with headphones! - you can perceive the distortion at the beginning, but then it 'blends in' after a while, when your brain has synchronized itself to the desired frequency. so even with headphones, you can still recognize music mastered to generate binaural beats - with speakers, it's just obvious and simply won't work.
en.wikipedia.org...

at the end, a small comment about psychedelic music - to be precise, psychedelic trance. i've got a friend that's listening to this kind of music since many years, and he's one of the most incredible people i've ever known. open minded, honest, very spiritual and sensitive. i was listening to the exactly same music many times during past years and i wouldn't say it influenced me in any way. and hey, the band we liked the most is infected mushroom - and oh noes - they're israelis!

seriously, if you want to find some hard evidence of illuminati tampering with our reality, follow your government and their actions. by following entertainment industry, you're focusing on the veil - which is exactly what they want you to do, and exactly while they are putting all that masonic symbols in it - they know it gets noticed. you should be looking at the hands of those that operate behind that veil.

edit on 27-11-2011 by jedi_hamster because: (no reason given)

Thanks for your input.

Just to clarify, I don't really "believe" that the illuminati controls all music, or binaural beats, or psychedelic. It was just a thought. While I DO believe that the illuminati does have associations with a lot of the mainstream artists, I don't necessarily think they control all music, or just one genre, etc.

I understand that a lot of people take threads like this seriously, but it was just a passing thought that I wanted to start a discussion about. A possibility, because anything is possible.

I know how binaural beats work, I know a decent bit about music and sound and whatnot - but not as much as you. I was simply suggesting that binaural beats could be, instead of sending positive subliminals to our brain, it could contain negative subliminals, in addition to the alpha/beta/delta/theta waves.

Subliminals are most effective in theta state, by the way.

PS. I love psy music, and it's primarily what I listen to most.

reply to post by OhNoItsCritical

---

while subliminals are indeed more effective in theta state, i doubt people in the clubs or anywhere are in theta state just because of the listening to the psychedelic music. it's not causing the brain to switch on its own imho - one has to relax and be calm - and that's hardly what happens in such places. i guess some would like to compare such dance to some sort of shamanic dance - but while the idea itself may sound plausible, lets not forget that all such music is tuned to A=440Hz, hence destroying such possibility. so basically they can put subliminals in their recordings - and some certainly do - but those are 'regular' subliminals - nothing related to the binaural beats. i'm sure they would love to use those, but luckily it's not possible - not until they'll start selling audio cds 'for listening with headphones only - incredible 3D audio experience'.

also, binaural beats themselves have nothing to do with subliminals - they just cause the brain to synchronize to the desired frequency. if it'll get exposed to some subliminals later or nor, it depends on what such person is listening to, so changing a song with clear masonic symbolism to generate binaural beats may be a bad idea. but as i've said, we can only expose ourselves to binaural beats on our own, by generating them with some computer software, so we have full control over what we're listening to.

reply to post by jedi_hamster

---

Have you heard of www.brainsync.com... ?

I use these semi-frequently, and they're pretty amazing. They claim to have positive subliminals like "I can be successful in whatever I want", etc. These were the types of binaurals that I was talking about.

I know it probably wouldn't be possible in a club, but I'm pretty sure it'd be possible in those. Half the time I'm 90% asleep after I become relaxed enough, about 10 minutes in to the binaural usually.

Again, if I were that worried about it I wouldn't be using them, just a passing thought.

reply to post by OhNoItsCritical

---

kinda risky i would say. have you heard about robert monroe? he wrote some books about oobe. he's long dead, but his institute still works and they continue his research. if anything, i would rather try these.
www.monroeinstitute.org...

Okay. Awesome. As someone who makes music myself I feel I can say quite a few things about this topic.

For one, someone already mentioned that binaural beats only work with stereo headphones. I won't go into exactly how binaural beats work, but basically if you were to listen to binaural beats in a club you would just hear a really annoying sound (not dancable AT ALL). Once me and my friend tried to jam (guitar+bass) to binaural beats it was not really worth it lol.
However, binaural beats may not work when producing music THERE IS a similar form of entrainment called isochronic tones which, instead of producing two similar but not identical frequencies in the L and R channels, produce a tone through the center (thus can be played through monitor or ordinary speakers).
Wikipedia: Isochronic Tones

There are also monaural beats which are more similar to binaural beats (you can find the link for this in the wikipedia article for isochronic tones). These also do not need headphones.

Also, there ARE indeed psychedelic bands that have used binaural beats in their songs. I know only of one band, actually that has done it. A very popular band called "Infected Mushroom". I'm not too into the whole techno/rave scene so I don't remember what song off what album it was but I remember the song had "(!!)" at the end of it to let the listener know to listen with headphones. This was done on purpose and not to 'fool' the listener. Definitely not something that would be played at a club.

Also, if a song were to have isochronic tones or monaural beats playing through tthe song it would be very noticable. I've heard a lot about C=432Hz and I think thats nonsense. Someone has already gone through why exactly its nonsense so I won't do it again. I went through a phase where I tuned all my guitars to C=432 but I realized that C=440 is just easier because almost everybody is tuned to 440 and I dont like having to re-tune my guitars everytime I jam. anyway...

Is NWO/Illuminati (if they even exist..) controlling mainstream music? Well yeah, I guess, if they were trying to control the masses the most efficient way to do it would be to control what messages people are getting. Does the music itself directly have an effect on the mind control? Again, if they were to try to control your brain they would have to try to do it while you were in a relaxed state of mind. Theta being the most efficient way to get a message across. Most mainstream music is very upbeat and more likely to put you on alert, or alpha. This actually is negating the effect of 'brainwash',but what it does is make it harder for you to get a message through to your subconscious, so they are in effect, dumbing you down by pumping you up.

Sorry about the long post.

reply to post by jedi_hamster

---

Hi mate, can you tell me what the binaural beats do for for you? I mean, do they help? Tuning your brain to a frequency does sound interesting to me......as we're on music, here's link to my FB group page with varied music that I write.....feel free to join www.facebook.com...

reply to post by OhNoItsCritical

---

I have some food for thought! My words can be taken any way I'm just trying to help :p

I agree with you! In fact I believe the music industry is nothing to be afraid of; why would 'they' kill the mass population if they need us to evolve with them? 2012 will be about the literal ending of time; death will not take place if you kill our ego! THAT is what dies! Lady Gaga portrays herself dying so much because it's her ego death that she imagines; if the body is not cleansed, then physical death will take place. I think characters like Lady Gaga and Skrillex are alter egos..like Skrillex, the ILL in his name is highlighted, maybe it represents a trinity (another symbol that's used in the industry, like in car logos, or pyramids). There are symbols in EVERYTHING though, that's how easy they want it! They want it in our faces in hopes that we may remember.

And the Illuminati need us to cooperate..what better way to get attention than to bring out new music? And while they're at it, maybe adding 'familiar' eye and pyramid symbols will help the mass remember their true role on earth. Millions of people have already been killed before..in the early-mid 1900's! I believe they learned they couldn't kill people to make their evolution easier..they have to stay here and help instead. Paranoia over the music industry is just ego, afraid yet again.

I think the industry uses psychedelic/dubstep now because they are higher frequency beats, which are for those most used to higher frequency worlds. (Not to mentionn it's been a popular genre for those willing to open their consciousness, so why not give the people what they want?) Psychedelics completely open your consciousness, should you be willing to confront ego or 'inner demons.' Hope this helped!

I think this may interest you. I noticed there don't seem to be any dubstep artists posting on this subject, I am, however, a dubstep producer/artist. However, I am tied down by the chains of honesty. Dubstep, is extremely subliminal. As far as I know, The Illuminati are a satanic organization built on some type of New World Order. Correct me if I am wrong, please. I know dubstep artists use backtracking, and vocoding to, well... pretty much code vocals. I am going to get ragged on by so many dubstep artists/producers if they see this.... The artists use vocal messages to, first, get you "addicted" to the song, and second, impose messages into your mind. I have some proof.
Bratkilla - Decadence Feat. Subdog
youtu.be...
Listen to what he says, yes, people will say he is saying that to make the song more "brutal". However he speeks the truth. Every word is true.
Next is MINDSTEM & CHAOS THEORY - Play That Track Ft. Del the Funky Homosapien
soundcloud.com...
Now I want to share a secret with you. Listen to this song before you read any further for full effect.
Listen to this song and tell me it doesn't make you "Bite Your Lip". Try listenning to the whole song. Maybe not bite your lip, but bite your nails, or even bite your cheek. Listen to the "synths". They are not synths at all but vocals. What they say is "Bite Your Lip". If you didn't here it before, go back and listen to it again. Do you hear it now? Hopefully my knowledge that I have gained through both listenning to and producing dubstep, put on the table for you, is substantial enough for you to "open your mind" to what's really going on in dubstep. Also something else. Somebody else above stated something about the death of an alter ego, this maybe true. There is also this:
Excision - X Rated Feat. Messinian
youtu.be...
Talks about "exhilarate the hard and exterminate the weak". Dubstep talks alot about stuff like this. This is because dubstep artists are Illuminati. They are killing off peoples egos and rebuilding them through the music, it sounds dumb, but it is the truth. This one should interest you.
Noisia - Soul Purge Feat. Foreign Beggars
youtu.be...
This one says "We lie under the sound, .... unravel your structure, ... break it down", "only the strong survive"," You'll be taken alive","The mind's eye never lies", "God severed devine ties", "love is <---(synth) nervous, twisted, .... conveluted, slighty edgy, messy, caught in the net", "Left to our own devices, these souls we collect, after the soul purge we emerge from the depths".

BREAKING New Documentary Investigates the Death of Andrew Breitbart
  Posted 6 days ago with 93 member flags

The Zombie Apocalypse is Real! And it\'s Here Now!
  Posted 17 days ago with 87 member flags

While Americans keep arguing about Trayvon-Zimmerman
  Posted 11 days ago with 79 member flags

"CIA are drug smugglers." - Federal Judge Bonner, head of DEA- You don\'t get better proof than th
  Posted 2 days ago with 72 member flags

Code Name** Stellar Wind. Objective** Infiltrate All. Chances For Sucess** High.
  Posted 2 days ago with 65 member flags

Faked Moon Landing - Amazing Documentary
  Posted 12 days ago with 59 member flags

This is scary!
  Posted 17 days ago with 57 member flags

Wow! Wikileaks Information Dump? Not sure what to make of this location.
  Posted 19 days ago with 55 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: