Was there an atomic war roughly 10,000 years ago?, page 2
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reply posted on 26-11-2011 @ 11:41 PM by Ph0en1x
reply to post by PhoenixDown



Those are all valid points and honestly, I do not have an answer to them. As I stated in the original post, I am not saying that this exactly was the case. I am just curious as to how close it comes to describing a nuclear scenario. For all we know, there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation e.g. asteroid/comet impact as other users have suggested above.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 12:28 AM by el1jah
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The truth in your posts makes me terribly upset, lucky that masterpiece of a photograph that is your avatar always makes me smile


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 01:12 AM by xenthuin
reply to post by kdog1982



Nuclear fission... So easy a caveman could do it!


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OP-The subject is indeed interesting. Thanks for sharing!
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This actually got me thinking... I wonder if it is possible that a meteor/asteroid with a critical mass of uranium could have impacted Earth. Might the impact be able to trigger a nuclear reaction?! I'm no physicist, astronomer, or astrophysicist, but to me it does not seem impossible...
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reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 01:52 AM by RenegadeScholar
Originally posted by el1jah
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The truth in your posts makes me terribly upset, lucky that masterpiece of a photograph that is your avatar always makes me smile




It's funny because before I read this I briefly admired your eye-avatar on the top of the page too! We must think alike!


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 02:12 AM by el1jah
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Nice! Whats the source on that photo? If you took it, I bow down.

My eye is part of a painting I have been working on for too long, seriously like 6 months.... ouch



reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 02:37 AM by Freelancer
There are indeed many ancient references to these 'atomic wars', some of which has already been mentioned in this thread. The Bible has an account on the fate of Sodom & Gomorra, however, in order to keep this a terrestrial phenomena and not extra-terrestrial, we would naturally need to ask ourselves the question, what evidence if any, exists to show that ancient man might indeed have possessed this kind of technology, to harness nuclear power and perhaps, had the knowledge to create nuclear weapons from it's material?.


One such example does exists of an ancient nuclear reactor and when you take into consideration just how difficult it is for modern man to build, refine, process and continue a safe nuclear reaction then the site at Oklo in Gabon, Africa, (which has been attributed to nothing more than a 'natural occurrence' ) must surly be taken more seriously.



The nuclear reactor found at Oklo in 1976 consists of 16 locations running along a 200 meter mine bed which scientists confirm that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions had occurred some 1.7 billion years ago.

This is what wiki [the establishment] says:-

A natural nuclear fission reactor is a uranium deposit where analysis of isotope ratios has shown that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions have occurred. The existence of this phenomenon was discovered in 1972 at Oklo in Gabon, Africa, by French physicist Francis Perrin. The conditions under which a natural nuclear reactor could exist had been predicted in 1956 by Paul Kazuo Kuroda. The conditions found were very similar to what was predicted.

Oklo is the only known location for this in the world and consists of 16 sites at which self-sustaining nuclear fission reactions took place approximately 1.7 billion years ago, and ran for a few hundred thousand years, averaging 100 kW of power output during that time


Further more, the official establishment then goes onto describing how such a natural occurring self-sustaining nuclear reaction could have been achieved.

The natural nuclear reactor formed when a uranium-rich mineral deposit became inundated with groundwater that acted as a neutron moderator, and a nuclear chain reaction took place. The heat generated from the nuclear fission caused the groundwater to boil away, which slowed or stopped the reaction. After cooling of the mineral deposit, the water returned and the reaction started again. These fission reactions were sustained for hundreds of thousands of years, until a chain reaction could no longer be supported.

Fission of uranium normally produces five known isotopes of the fission-product gas xenon; all five have been found trapped in the remnants of the natural reactor, in varying concentrations. The concentrations of xenon isotopes, found trapped in mineral formations 2 billion years later, make it possible to calculate the specific time intervals of reactor operation: approximately 30 minutes of criticality followed by 2 hours and 30 minutes of cooling down to complete a 3-hour cycle.


Source (I took the liberty to highlight certain words in the above extracts.)

There we have it. A natural occurring nuclear reactor, of which only one has been found and verified, that started off around 1.7 billion years ago, that ran for just a few hundred thousand years and was stopped going critical and causing something like we have had at Chernobyl & Fukushima because local ground water was able to naturally regulate this reaction in three hour cycles for a few hundred thousand years without interruption. Nature is truly incredible.


Further reading:-
Evidence of Ancient Atomic Knowledge?
1.8 Billion Year Old Nuclear Reactor In African Republic Of Gabon
THE NATURAL NUCLEAR REACTOR AT OKLO: A
COMPARISON WITH MODERN NUCLEAR REACTORS

edit on 27/11/2011 by Freelancer because: typo



reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 02:52 AM by notsosunny
reply to post by weirdguy



When reading about the war as described in the Baghavad Gita ( Hindu religion), and assuming there is no smoke without a fire, yes, there was something like an atomic war long time ago.

And after the finds in India, the last doubt I had about previous civiliztions and things like that, isappeared.

It all happened before and it seems we learned nothing.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 03:11 AM by 74Templar
Originally posted by Ph0en1x
I came upon this site:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net... which has some very fascinating information:


Consider these verses from the ancient Mahabharata:

...(it was) a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendor...

..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

..The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.


That sounds a lot like an atomic weapon. The author goes on to say that it might just be a poetic way to mention the ancient warfare. I am, however, very intrigued by this. I am not claiming that this is a proof of advanced civilization in ancient times or anything of that nature. I just wanted to get ATSers' opinion on what they think. It is curious to say the least.


edit on 26-11-2011 by Ph0en1x because: Spelling


Interesting find, whenever we come across this kind of thing I'm always drawn towards "This has all happened before, and it will happen again." It does seem plausable that we were more advanced in the past than we are led to believe, I mean lets face it, everyone screams "where is the proof?", but to me we only have the word of the MSM and our governments to go by, and let's face it, anyone can be bought or sold to keep the real truth from coming out to the masses, especially if it involves government funding.
In addition we have seen our own governments covering things up over the years, and proof or not it may have been no different back then. Say an ancient but advanced nation did get their hands on nuclear weapons and used them against an enemy, perhaps not realising their potential, in the aftermath wouldn't the winning side make an attempt to cover up or destroy any evidence, especially if said technology was either forbidden or too advanced for the common man to know the truth about (Manhattan Project anyone?).
It's also possible the survivors vowed after the devastation they would clean up their world and stop fighting each other? After all, it says in many prophecies great wars and great loss of life would be followed by a golden age, maybe it is true of our ancient ancestors. We have come so far in such a short span of time (tech wise), it doesn't seem too unreasonable to assume ancient societies did the same.
Besides, life is cyclical, not linear...

"All this has happened before, and it will happen again...."
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