I wanted to draw your attention to a growing issue that has a potential for drastic consequences for all of us. Let us begin with this latest story
out of China. No, it's not the thrust of this thread but it is a sign of whats on the horizon IMO.
thousands of police to restive Xinjiang
BEIJING: China has rushed thousands of special police forces to Urumqi, capital city of northwestern
Xinjiang province, where it is battling to contain separatist East Turkestan militants, some of them trained in neighbouring Pakistan.
Thousands of special policemen have been transferred to Urumqi from the regional public security department, state-run Xinhua news agency reported
without specifying the reasons for the deployment.
The fresh deployment would be in addition to stationing of Snow Leopards, China best known anti-terrorism unit in Urmuqi as well as in the border town
of Kashghar, located close to the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).
So while many are focused on OWS/Police Brutality, Black Friday and the ongoing issues with Syria and or the Missile defense question in Europe China
has been continuing to deal with separatists in the Province of Xinjiang [AKA East Turkestan]
For those of you who are less than familiar with the Province in question...
Xinjiang is a large, sparsely populated area, spanning over 1.6 million km2
(comparable in size to Iran or Western Europe), which takes up about one sixth of the country's territory. Xinjiang borders the Tibet Autonomous
Region and India's Leh District to the south and Qinghai and Gansu provinces to the southeast, Mongolia to the east, Russia to the north, and
Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India to the west.
The issue of the separatists has flared up once again and once again China responds with force. Neither side seems to be in any big hurry to negotiate
to resolve their issues peacefully. The indigenous largely Muslim Uyghurs people and the relatively recent influx of mostly Han Chinese seem to be a
growing and continuing issue the Chinese Government finds itself continuously struggling to resolve.
Hundreds of deaths have been the result. China and many other observers have noted an increase of support by certain groups in Pakistan. The Pakistani
Government which China has provided support to has yet to crack down on said forces. [This reminds me of the game Pakistan has played with the
US/NATO forces in Afghanistan regarding the same type of issues]
One would think that China would have learned from the lessons the West have. Pakistan is a real cesspool for these types of groups and no matter how
much Financial Aid or Military assistance they are provided with Pakistan will not move against these elements within their borders. Even though they
the Pakistani Government have been and continue to be the target of these groups as well.
I'm somewhat caught between the mostly Islamic indigenous people of East Turkestans stance and China's right to deal with their own internal matters
without outside interference. The controversy of the province should be left between the two parties involved however and this should be of evertone
reading this concerns. The elements within Pakistan and [possible ISI influence] raises a massive Red Flag not only for China but the US/NATO not to
mention also India.
Now, Pakistan is basically split between two opposing worlds really. There are those in Pakistan [Mostly modern urban city/town dwellers] who would
like to have closer ties with the West and outside world vs those who are [Mostly rural dwellers] the majority of whom are of a stricter Islamic
As we here in the West focus on our issues another powder keg is being ignored. I don't blame people for being confused on the issues. We here in the
West get conflicting information all the time. I can only imagine how it is over in China..
Afghan 'counter-measures': Musharraf
WASHINGTON — Pakistan's former leader Pervez Musharraf warned Wednesday that his country's spies will
need to take "counter-measures" in Afghanistan if US troops leave it unstable or it becomes too close to India.
On a visit to Washington, Musharraf described relations between the United States and Pakistan as "terrible" but defended the Inter-Services
Intelligence (ISI) agency that American officials have accused of supporting extremists.
Musharraf, who has lived in exile since stepping down in 2008 but hopes to launch a political comeback next year, insisted that his country's historic
rival India was working to turn Afghanistan against Pakistan.
"Since our independence, Afghanistan always has been anti-Pakistan because the Soviet Union and India have very good relations in Afghanistan,"
Musharraf said at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
I dunno. I trust this guy about as far as I can toss him. The ISI has had their hand in Afghanistan going back years if not decades. So seriously, who
is this guy trying to fool? I wonder what rock he crawled under back in 2008.
He's like a bad penny if you asked me. In a related but conflicting story on the subject...
Taliban commanders say Pakistan intelligence helps
(Reuters) - Pakistan's security service provides weapons and training to Taliban insurgents fighting U.S. and British troops in
Afghanistan, despite official denials, Taliban commanders say, in allegations that could worsen tensions between Pakistan and the United States.
A number of middle-ranking Taliban commanders revealed the extent of Pakistani support in interviews for a BBC Two documentary series, "Secret
Pakistan," the first part of which was being broadcast on Wednesday.
Meanwhile the US/NATO and China have a common issue and the same potential enemy. Yet, the Chinese want to play the popularity game on the
International stage. This stance doesn't help them nor the West. Here are a few related ATS threads posted on the subject so as to hopefully
understand how this situation has been expanding .
Blasts in China's Xinjiang
China says Xinjiang attack linked to Pakistan
Blasts in China's Xinjiang region
Several explosions have hit the north-western Chinese province of Xinjiang, state media has reported. It said there was sporadic gunfire after the
blasts, but there were no immediate reports of casualties. Earlier this week, 16 Chinese policemen were killed in an attack on a border post in the
province, Xinhua reported.
Protest In China - China blames "terrorists" for attack in Xinjiang
BEIJING (AFP) – A deadly weekend attack in China's restive Xinjiang region was masterminded by "terrorists" trained in Pakistan, the local
government said Monday....
Fourteen people were killed in two attacks at the weekend in the ancient Silk Road city of Kashgar, and five alleged attackers were in turn shot dead
by police in the wave of violence.
BEIJING (Reuters) - A clash at a police station that left at least four people dead in western China's restive Xinjiang region was "a terrorist
attack," a government official said on Tuesday, but an exile Uighur group accused police of firing on peaceful protesters....
Police in the desert city of Hotan "gunned down" several rioters who attacked a police station, Xinhua said on Tuesday, the worst violence Xinjiang
has experienced in about a year....
But a Germany-based exile group, World Uyghur Congress, disputed the official account. It said 20 Uighurs were killed -- 14 were beaten to death and 6
shot dead -- and 70 arrested when police opened fire on a peaceful protest, leading to fighting between the two sides....
Beijing, wary of instability and the threat to the Communist Party's grip on power, often blames what it calls violent separatist groups in Xinjiang
for attacks on police or other government targets, saying they work with al Qaeda or Central Asian militants to bring about an independent state
called East Turkestan.
The only real reason China has come out on their side is basically because the Pakistani Government parrots what China wants to hear. Meanwhile that's
the same game Pakistan has played with the West. They just Parrot what sounds good in the hopes of gaining more financial aid and military support. So
China isnt being all that smart here IMO. They are falling into the same trap everybody else has. Then on top of all this Pakistan is a Nuclear armed
nation. This has been glossed over by many who support Pakistan's covert support for Islamic extremists both in Afghanistan and now in Xinjiang.
China Ultimatum to US? 'Any Attack on Pakistan is Attack on China'
The Nuclear issue...
China has "warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China", The News daily quoted diplomatic sources
The warning was formally conveyed by the Chinese foreign minister at last week's China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, it
For his part, Gilani reiterated Pakistan's support for its policy of 'One China' and said his country fully supports China on the issues of Taiwan and
During her briefing today Jiang skirted questions about Pakistan-China signing new defence agreements. Asked about assertions by Pakistan's Ambassador
to China Masood Khan before Gilani's arrival that new defence deals would be signed, she said the two sides signed agreements in economy, technology,
finance and energy resources.
"As to specific cooperation, please refer to relevant companies," she said, adding that China is actively implementing pledges to help pro-disaster
reconstruction and exerting utmost to help tide over difficulties."
So while many here at ATS talk about a potential "False Flag"
incident in Pakistan so the US/West will have an excuse to take action. They
reality of the situation is much, much more alarming...
Elite US troops ready to combat Pakistani nuclear hijacks
The US army is training a crack unit to seal off and snatch back Pakistani nuclear weapons in the event that militants, possibly from inside
the country’s security apparatus, get their hands on a nuclear device or materials that could make one.
The specialised unit would be charged with recovering the nuclear materials and securing them.
So if any Extremist groups were able to gain control over some of Pakistan's Nuclear stockpile it would not just be a threat the US/West but
potentially also China. There is common ground here which both sides need to set aside their differences and deal with Pakistan's lack of willingness
to go after those who are fermenting the problems within their borders and get on the ball which would also help with the ongoing conflict in
The US/West and China have common ground here....
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