There is nothing wrong with the axial tilt of Earth. If there was, we would ALL know about it.

Originally posted by wellsybelieves
So I am 32 years old and live in the North East of England and have done all my life. It's almost December and when I drive to work around 8am it's already light enough to just have my headlights on half and if it's a sunny day not at all.

Call me crazy but I'm sure it is dark at that time of the morning every single other year of my life! Am I going mad or has anyone else noticed this?

I have read a few threads on earthquakes altering the Earths axis slightly and another on a northern tribe saying the sun rises and sets at different parts of the mountain to what it used to? Also the moons orbit changing slightly MUST have an effect on the planet?

What's going on ATS?

There are 7 billion people on this planet but only the handful on ATS have noticed an earth shift...............I'm trying to be polite!

Originally posted by Logman
Guys, I've noticed that it's been getting dark earlier each night. This started in late June I believe. Someone told me that the Sun is burning itself out and that's why it's darker sooner. It also takes longer for it to get light in the morning. I'm pretty sure if this continues we'll be running out of sunlight completely. I can't believe there aren't more threads about this. If the the sun burns itself out our planet won't be able to support life. Has anyone heard about this? It's definitely getting colder too and when I'm outside even in the sunshine I can feel less power in the sun.

I have an idea: Maybe we should all begin to pray, perhaps celebrating the evergreen trees which retain their summer appearance, and decorating them with lights to show that we are afraid of the light going away from us.

I have seen that done somewhere before and it seemed to work somewhere around the end of the month of December. When the light and warmth seemed to reverse and start to draw nearer again, we celebrated by exchanging gifts and having a big feast.

Just a thought.

Originally posted by Shdak

Originally posted by SunnyDee
I hate to sound silly, but my home that I've been in 12 years, seems different too. The backyard faces north. The house casts a shadow on the back patio as normal at this time of year, but this year it seems to extend out farther from the house,(the shadow), I can tell when the grass closest to the house dies back, we're in the short days of the year. I will have to see if the grass has died back farther than usual, (I really doubt it!), but I would think if there were some change in axis, and the sun is now moving across at a more southerly latittude, my grass will show it.

Will check tomorrow.

I agree with you the sunrise and sunset are the same, but the shadows are much longer...I have noticed this for weeks.

If the sunrise and sunset times are the same as expected-- than the ONLY way the shadows could be longer is if the axis of the earth's rotation has changed as regards the position of the sun-- and thus, also changed in relation to the stars and the planets.

There is no other alternative.

1) Take the shade off a lamp and turn lamp on to represent sun.
2) Get a basketball to represent to represent the earth.
3) Hold basketball, choosing the valve to be the North Pole.
4) Tape a short object to a fixed spot on ball to provide a shadow to measure.
5) Rotate ball so that valve stays at top and observe shadow.
6) Reason out how the "Noon" shadow falls to the same lengths for each rotation.
7) If the spin is constant like the sunrise and sunset being predictable, then,
8) The only way to lengthen a shadow on any fixed point is to tilt the valve back away from, or forward and toward, the lamp= changing the axis of rotation.

Yo do not really need to perform the experiment-- you can merely visualize it. And it is a good visualization exercise.

Now if you move the taped object where a shadow is measured "north" or "south"-- the shadow will change, but not the axis of rotation.

So, the only options which remain to us are that the OP was incorrect in his observation or that the OP has changed latitude since prior observations.

I have one of those fiber optic trees with an assortment of color wheels and if we are very lazy we don't have to hang shinny beer cans on it or plastic icicles for it to be pretty. We just set it on top of the epoxy resin clamshell thingy with a round glass table surface and fill the shell and glass top with the shinny bulbs and it creates enough glistening spectacle for a complete display. Thing still works after nearly 2 decades, no wench required but the inclusion of alcohol enhances the viewing experience. Its also nice its dark out longer during it all.

One year with just a couple of Thompson water seal coats I got the idea to fill the clamshell with water and float some of these floating candles in it. One evening we came home from the corner pub and the water was gone and the carpet was not even wet, but that clamshell became heavy as s#i†. Then I went out and bought a gallon of Drylock but never tried the water thing again yet.

Not that anyone was interested...I lost myself there thinking this was the spaced exploration forum.

earth only appears to be off its axis if your stood on a slope.

Originally posted by Illustronic
I have one of those fiber optic trees with an assortment of color wheels and if we are very lazy we don't have to hang shinny beer cans on it or plastic icicles for it to be pretty. We just set it on top of the epoxy resin clamshell thingy with a round glass table surface and fill the shell and glass top with the shinny bulbs and it creates enough glistening spectacle for a complete display. Thing still works after nearly 2 decades, no wench required but the inclusion of alcohol enhances the viewing experience. Its also nice its dark out longer during it all.

One year with just a couple of Thompson water seal coats I got the idea to fill the clamshell with water and float some of these floating candles in it. One evening we came home from the corner pub and the water was gone and the carpet was not even wet, but that clamshell became heavy as s#i†. Then I went out and bought a gallon of Drylock but never tried the water thing again yet.

Not that anyone was interested...I lost myself there thinking this was the spaced exploration forum.

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What expectation did you have that the resin would be porous? I mean, why the sealant?

If I filled a resin shell full of water and came home to find it empty but the carpet dry--- I would suspect a dog is involved. If no dog, then this is like the moon turning upside down-- it is just, simply, not physically possible, so should start a thread.

Never had one of the fiber-optic trees, but fixed one for a girl I dated a few years ago and thought it was pretty cool. I'm thinking about going out and killing a young mountain cedar tree (to which I am allergic) and setting its carcass up with lights to celebrate its death. My gift to humanity.

Originally posted by meissastar
I live in New England, United States.

It is November 25th and it was warm enough to go out in a t-shirt today, yet yesterday was FREEZING.


We had a nor'easter at the end of October, and since then the weather has been erratic. Up and down temperatures. Everybody is sick.

Not to mention all of the earthquakes worldwide in the last few months alone. Japan got hit twice the other day.

We've got fukashima crap in the world's system now.

The sun is going through a crazy cycle and flaring tremendously.

I think we are in for one of the worst winter's New England has seen in a LOT of years. I believe there will be food shortages and fuel shortages. This could be the beginning of a really bad time.

Thoughts everyone?

All of those things combined...something is brewing.

You live in New England and think something is brewing because the weather is crazy? Boston, MA, 31 years, that is New England weather, always has been always will be (for the foreseeable future). The year I left (2009) it was in the 40's I think in June.