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Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by LightsideAssassin
Just a quick thought.
When are YOU going to get that the US government doesn't give a # if it legally applies to the american people? they don't care about legality..THEY CARE ABOUT CONTROL. and, you know what? they WILL SHOOT. So, my question is valid. also..try decaf
Edit: if anyone, at this point, still doubts how far congress is willing to go to shut the american people down, read about ANOTHER provision of NDAA that was narrowly defeated because of Sen. Rand Paul that would have allowed americans to be held indefinitely, EVEN AFTER BEING FOUND INNOCENT AFTER A TRIAL.
It seems from this that you believe both:
1.) The government will do what it wants whether the law is valid, or even if the law is there.
2.) Congress is trying to pass laws to hurt Americans, and that's bad.
If you believe that the law doesn't matter, then why do you care if Congress is passing laws?
easier to use against you if your protesting, keeping and defending your 1st and 2nd and 5th rights, or saying anything bad against the US GOV or its alphabet soup organizations TSA DHS FBI DoD DOJ FEMA CIA as seen here
(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force
add this in with 1031 and 1032 and it will read like this my version keep this in mind
§ 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Originally posted by ShaolinTemple
I have an infowars.com bumper sticker on my car and have noticed strange behavior from the local police.
Originally posted by andy1972
The scope and reach of these laws (martial laws) are so immense, so far reaching, so onmipotent that your constitution . . . now has no meaning and no place in America, . . .
These laws,which are exactly the same laws that the USA has condemned in the rest of the world, arrest without warrant, without due cause, without having to explain why and to be detained indefinately without trial.
Now a person can ring the police, say your a terrorist, and they can arrest you without evidence, detain you indefinately and that person never has to be named as the informant because of the law of secret charges under the patriot act.
It has become,or is becoming, a military dictatorship, . . .where people will be taken away at night, never to be seen again,their families told they are enemies of the state.
. . .this new law which gives the American military the right to arrest ANYONE, ANYWHERE at ANYTIME,. . .
The USA is now a dictatorship,where the miltary regime govern . . . .
Gone are your freedoms and your liberties.
Gone are your constitution and your amendments.
Originally posted by Pervius
To silence those voices and attempt to keep the US Federal Government in existence.......they'll have to resort to Fascism x1000.
The Nation exists because of Titles of Land. Citizens rights to own land. They've been robbed. Very Very few hold titles to Land now....eventually the fine thread will snap and everyone will demand their Rights back.
They lost their Right to be a Human because of the prior Generation giving themselves lavish Retirements. +70 million Baby Boomers all getting Federal Retirements, Military Retirements, Social Security, Medicare.......
Somebody's gotta lose to fund all that.
“The language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved…and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that U.S. citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section,” said Levin, Chairman of the Armed Services Committee.
Congress is pressing ahead with a massive $662 billion defense bill that requires military custody for terrorism suspects linked to al-Qaida, including those captured within the U.S. Lawmakers hope their last-minute revisions will satisfy President Barack Obama and erase a veto threat.
The lawmakers said they hoped the House and Senate could vote on the final bill by Thursday and send it to the president.
The legislation would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. The lawmakers made no changes to that language.