Help with Translating Ancient Mysterious Artifact

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I was just talking to bulla about your bowl.
Have you gotten anywhere with it?

He saw a few symbols in his recent travels that were similar to the symbols on the bowl.

Originally posted by kdog1982
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I was just talking to bulla about your bowl.
Have you gotten anywhere with it?

He saw a few symbols in his recent travels that were similar to the symbols on the bowl.

Hi kdog,
I haven't had much progress on the bowl...One somewhat recent theory is that the language is Scythian, although even that doesn't entirely fit. the bowl remains as enigmatic as always.
How is Bulla?...and where did he find these symbols?

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Not sure where he saw some of the symbols.
He knew the symbol of the sun .
And,he is making his rounds spreading his info.
Chat with him daily.
We actually do voice chat with others with like interests.

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Wow, I saw this thread bumped up today, and had nearly forgotten about it. Been about six months, aye?

Think I'll pull out my notes, TAT, and do a review.

Originally posted by Druid42
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Wow, I saw this thread bumped up today, and had nearly forgotten about it. Been about six months, aye?

Think I'll pull out my notes, TAT, and do a review.

Hello Druid,
It seems like ages...Hope you're doing well.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
-TAT

I have just breathed new life into this thread.

I've never seen anything like it, take it to a museum which specialises in ancient Europe and I'm sure you'll get an answer, invariably the truth is that all the most competant experts don't post in internet forums. I can tell you that its nothing to do with the ANE. Theres nothing Mesopotamian or Egyptian about it at all, the writing is too crude to be the product of a career scribe and the only people who could write were scribes who had years of training to reach that position I've taken the liberty of posting it over here forums.randi.org... I hope you don't mind

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Thank you, kdog. You are TOP DOG in my book.
I'm looking forward to seeing if this new group comes up with something on this.

P.S. I finally drank some water from it...JUST IN CASE it turns out to the Holy Grail!...I feel 10 years younger already : )

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So far in that group,they have gotten somewhere with it.
They are sending pics of it to museums.

forums.randi.org...

Think of the fortune you could make selling the fountain of youth water!

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While you are breathing new life, how about making sure Marduk and friends get a copy of this pic:




It will help them immensely.

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Sure thing.
Blue plate special coming up!

At the top of the second picture it looks like a sun rising/setting! That could mean something about it, maybe? Depends on if it was rising or setting, it would have some help to it if we knew which one it was. . .

Keeping my place on here.

Originally posted by IAMTAT
Keeping my place on here.

I don't know if you every went to that site that was posted,but they're conclusion was it was ancient,but symbols were added later.

forums.randi.org...

Originally posted by kdog1982

Originally posted by IAMTAT
Keeping my place on here.

I don't know if you every went to that site that was posted,but they're conclusion was it was ancient,but symbols were added later.

forums.randi.org...

Yes, I've been watching it. It hadn't been added to in some time. I'm hoping they might still hear back from the museum in Chersones.

FYI: I just came across these Urartian Hieroglyphics from Armenia, as a possible relative to the odd unknown language on the bowl. Possibly related to the Issyk kurgan dish
en.wikipedia.org...
www.chgs.umn.edu...

The inscription is in a variant of the Kharoṣṭhī script, and is probably in a Scythian dialect, constituting one of very few autochthonous epigraphic traces of that language. Harmatta (1999) identifies the language as Khotanese Saka, tentatively translating "The vessel should hold wine of grapes, added cooked food, so much, to the mortal, then added cooked fresh butter on" (compare Nestor's Cup and Duenos inscription for other ancient inscriptions on vessels that concern the vessel itself).

en.wikipedia.org...

Inscriptions of the type mentioned above, inscribed into dishes, bowls, pots, etc. usually refer to magic spells or potion recipes.

UPDATE:

Hello Again...I don't know if anyone is still interested in this thread, but after much time, effort and discussion, I believe I have finally found the proper ancient language to attempt to decipher this bizarre and mysterious artifact.

If I'm correct, this is Gaulish and written in the ancient Lepontic language: en.wikipedia.org...

Lepontic is an ancient Alpine language that was spoken in parts of Rhaetia and Cisalpine Gaul (what is now Northern Italy) between 550 and 100 BC. Lepontic is attested in inscriptions found in an area centered around Lugano, Switzerland, and including the Lake Como and Lake Maggiore areas of Italy.

Lepontic is a Celtic language.[1][2] While some recent scholarship (e.g. Eska 1998) has tended to consider it simply as an early form of Cisalpine Gaulish (or Cisalpine Celtic), thus a dialect of the Gaulish language, the majority opinion since Lejeune 1971 continues to view it as a distinct Continental Celtic language, thus not a Gaulish dialect.[1][3][4] Within this latter view, the earlier inscriptions found within a 50 km radius of Lugano are considered Lepontic, while the later ones, to the immediate south of this area are considered Cisalpine Gaulish.[5][6]
Lepontic was assimilated first by Gaulish, with the settlement of Gaulish tribes north of the River Po, and then by Latin, after the Roman Republic gained control over Gallia Cisalpina during the late 2nd and 1st century BC.

As time allows, I am now going to attempt to see what this ancient bowl can tell us about it's purpose and meaning.
I will keep all who may be interested posted.

-TAT

Vinca or Glozell may also be potential candidates.

aleximreh.wordpress.com... pyramids/

www.atlantisquest.com...

It has been awhile TAT.
Something for me to look into.
Thanks!

Peace,
K

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I would love it if you would, kdog. Thanks. I just accidentally stumbled upon this alphabet while researching a Sumerian cuneiform dedication cone I just bought at auction.

it sorta translates to 'shealosld' or simply gibberish in any language I know. appears to be some sort of hoax, sorry....