Is the USA being set up for a taste of their own medicine ? , page 2
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reply posted on 26-11-2011 @ 11:03 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Ilyich



It's really a strange state we are in. The premise seems to be we have this unique, one of a kind, freedom that is constantly at risk of being taken away by these people that don't want us to have it for some inexplicable reason. Funny enough that there is no one in the world outside of our own government that could take it away.
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reply posted on 26-11-2011 @ 11:09 PM by Ilyich
reply to post by kellerphoenix



This is another good point for what I'm saying though... Perhaps, it is exactly what America needs... You know I hate to say it, but it has been said that when a man really needs something, it will be given to him... Not in these exact words, but I'm not religious so I just can't do it, but hasn't something that would end up happening been written about over and over, and the media keeps on hinting at this big bad thing coming real soon. Wouldn't it just be sooo.... Scripted, or was that scripture .... Hmm ? Bicent76 this kind of applies to what your saying, or would at least involve something of that magnitude...

You know they say the only difference between the beautifully insane and the Genius is the genius can translate his rattle brain thoughts into words the perfectly sane can understand.

Gonzo sinister Exactly what I'm saying. With the way things are going, who's to say A country advanced enough, and with enough obvious man power couldn't over whelm the US. I mean there has been supposed Hacker attacks on the US from both of your example nations. What's to say they aren't testing the waters ? And how are we supposed to know this was the first attempt or attack they have made. Maybe they have been there so long and got discovered by mistake. I'm willing to bet they could knock out the US from a home PC. Imagine it for a moment really. Knock out communications, or scramble them. Cause rolling black outs, coming up as system errors or hardware malfunctions. The US is in the dark and then they hit from out of no where. By the time the US has everything online and can respond, or they figure out why everything went dark, to Send forces to attack the foreign nation, or risk trying to launch a nuclear strike with out assisted weapons guidance They could end up hitting friendlies, and if they send man power out to try to attack an enemy that is prepared for violence, they could put themselves in an even worse position as far as winning the war would go.. It could very well work.

Search for knowledge, you do realize the countries the US invaded were the very same.. Hell they may live in #ty houses, or even mud huts but they all own guns, and they will be damned if any foreign invader sets foot on there land. All be it, it's not what we expected, but the Iraqis and Afghans sure are kicking the # out of our boys over there. They can't hit us head on so they take pot shots at us, and it scares the # out of our boys. As far as that's going, I personally think we are losing. How ever we would be no different if we were overwhelmed by another Army in a position of control.

Hey Easy530, I have a really crazy idea for you. Perhaps the Chinese will take back their debt in human stock. It is kind of strange the chinese build Giant functioning cities capable of housing millions left completely unattended in the middle of no where. Perhaps they intend to have the US " Work it off " or maybe it's a form of modern day concentration camp. I know it sounds terrible, but we are becoming a minority, and if you really think about it, Americans are the tip of the Violent spear, if you go deeper white people in general.... Or at least that could be how they spin it... Really disturbing isn't it ? Wouldn't it be worse to be removed from your nutrient rich, prime real estate for economic payback ? I know it's a little out there.

Seabag you know it's a very hard idea to wrap your head around for most people. You also have to wonder with the increasing number of recruitment adds out there in Canada and the US. Is it just me have there seemed to be another surge in recruitment advertising even though the two wars seem to be tapering off and it's being used as a campaign promise ? I don't know, as far as I'm concerned, that's more than a little odd to me. I also made mention of the " prophecies " Nostradamus made mention of these things as well, as many other end of world/WW3 type scenarios... It's nuts !!!

WEIRD GUY !!! YES EXACTLY !!!


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 12:14 AM by daynight42
reply to post by searchforknowledge



Do most people know how to use a gun? Do most people who own guns practice enough to be a decent shot?

I could be wrong, but doesn't it take practice to be able to use a firearm? You can't just toss a gun to someone and expect them to be able to hunt, right? How are they going to aim at an enemy if they have never fired a weapon?

Certainly computer video games build a degree of coordination, but they don't prepare anyone for the proper aiming and firing of actual weapons.

I'd say most people wouldn't know what to do if we were invaded, and you can't call the cops during times like these right? Gotta fend for your own and protect the "fort."



reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 12:54 AM by Sek82
reply to post by Ilyich

You have largely mirrored my thoughts as of late. I can't sit and put into so many words my thoughts right now, but must say thank you for speaking your mind as most of what you have said I have been wanting to say. Though I can't really make connections between OWS and China, I'm sure they are getting quite the laugh regarding our situation.

Just keep saying what you're saying. You see the bigger picture and that is good. If you don't mind, your writings remind me of an unofficial Ron Paul campaign ad. It is particularly important to me because the potential reality of it is not so unrealistic and can help others see things from the other side of the fence, and that I am mostly convinced that we need his intervention in our Government desperately (I don't intend to steer this thread into a Ron Paul related one, however).


Take care, and back to you.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 03:39 AM by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Ilyich



You really have no idea of the gap on the military power. Look how many Carriers the U.S. has, then China. How many world wide bases. Naval power. America would beat Russia and China without even breaking a sweat, and without help from Europe.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 03:42 AM by aprilc1
reply to post by kellerphoenix



Amen most of us Americans would fight to the death in streets if necessary before we'd allow any foreign occupation -it wouldnt be pretty thats for sure


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 05:00 AM by Ilyich
reply to post by OccamsRazor04



I really don't' think the US has what it takes when it comes to a modern threat. The last time they had the balls to pick on a modern nation the who world was crying themselves to sleep hoping someone didn't call a bluff and just push the damn button. It's a very different thing a modern army, and I'm almost certain the Higher ups think so. This is why the US is so careful who it pushes around. This is also why the US tends to get involved with nations it has the complete upper hand over, if the nation can actually fight back it would be very different. I mean the chinese have missiles for use against air craft carriers, and who's to say they aren't way more advanced than we think the are, or perhaps they have something we are over looking.


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 05:10 AM by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by daynight42





I could be wrong, but doesn't it take practice to be able to use a firearm? You can't just toss a gun to someone and expect them to be able to hunt, right? How are they going to aim at an enemy if they have never fired a weapon? Certainly computer video games build a degree of coordination, but they don't prepare anyone for the proper aiming and firing of actual weapons.


The threat of ones own mortality tends to make people quick studies.......

And the thought of losing a friend or family member is a strong motivator


reply posted on 27-11-2011 @ 11:14 AM by tom.farnhill
reply to post by aprilc1



don't you think that the iraq , afghan and iranian people think the same about invading forces .

but i think that if a war was to be brought home to america it would be started covertly , and with that i mean by sleepers planting nuclear bombs in major cities and detonating them simultaneously .

not a pretty picture and i hope it does not happen but when you are going to fight a stronger opponant you have to find a way to lessen the odds


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 10:25 AM by Ilyich
reply to post by OccamsRazor04




you currently have 11 aircraft carriers... China currently is developing hundreds of missiles with the potential capability to FSU for those carriers...

articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

news.yahoo.com...


I know how proud you americans are about your self proclaimed superiority over the world, but I've never been one to look at the world with the wool over my eyes. An Aircraft carrier is a boat, boats sink when you're floating over thousands of feet of water while people are trying to kill you it's not if you will sink, but when.... if it's almost 2012 and you only have 11 aircraft carriers... well I can't wait to see a Hsiung Feng III in a live fire situation. after all, an aircraft carrier is in fact just a floating Air strip, it the naval escort that provides the carrier with any defensive capabilities.


reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 11:00 AM by BO XIAN
Originally posted by tom.farnhill
reply to
post by aprilc1



but i think that if a war was to be brought home to america it would be started covertly , and with that i mean by sleepers planting nuclear bombs in major cities and detonating them simultaneously .

not a pretty picture and i hope it does not happen but when you are going to fight a stronger opponant you have to find a way to lessen the odds


I think the globalists have scripted it somewhat that way--terrorists open the festivities with massive strategic attacks. The 30,000 Iranian agents here strictly to assassinate all the Christian pastors would set to work.

Then . . .

www.handofhelp.com...


China and Russia

A Vision Received by Brother Dumitru Duduman April 22, 1996

I prayed, then went to bed. I was still awake, when suddenly I heard a trumpet sound. A voice cried out to me, "Stand!"


. . .


The Russian president began to speak to the Chinese one. "I will give you the land with all the people, but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. Do not fear, we will attack them from behind."

A voice said to me, "Watch where the Russians penetrate America."

I saw these words being written: Alaska; Minnesota; Florida.

Then, the man spoke again, "When America goes to war with China, the Russians will strike without warning."



All of them shook hands and hugged. Then they all signed a contract. One of them said, "We're sure that Korea and Cuba will be on our side, too. Without a doubt, together, we can destroy America."

The president of Russia began to speak insistently, "Why let ourselves be led by the Americans? Why not rule the world ourselves? They have to be kicked out of Europe, too! Then I could do as I please with Europe!"

The man standing beside me asked, "This is what you saw: they act as friends, and say they respect the treaties made together. But everything I've shown you is how it will REALLY happen. You must tell them what is being planned against American. Then, when it comes to pass, the people will remember the words the Lord has spoken."

Who are you?" I asked.

"I am the protector of America. America's sin has reached God. He will allow this destruction, for He can no longer stand such wickedness. God however, still has people that worship Him with a clean heart as they do His work. He has prepared a heavenly army to save these people."


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