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If all is one, why is there duality?

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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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If all is one, why is there duality?

Duality is blatantly obvious. Male/female, good/bad, love/hate, etc. Unity, is more subliminal, but when experienced, is surrealy unmistakeable.

I see that all is one. My question is: What causes the appearance of duality?

ETA: Happy Thanksgiving!
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Duality points to the fact that EVERYTHING was created with a pair. Even the Universe.
We are all one in the sense that We all come from one source.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by GmoS719
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Duality points to the fact that EVERYTHING was created with a pair. Even the Universe.
We are all one in the sense that We all come from one source.


And we are still with the source. But what primal interaction caused the unity to appear divided?



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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One can still be divided by two. You get two halves.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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I think you're misinterpreting (as so many do) the quantum theory. By saying "all is one" it is not suppose to imply that disharmony, difference, and duality do not exist as anything more than subjective ideas. What "all is one" really means is that even the more opposite things: love/hate, light/darkness, etc are conjoined in two ways.

Love and hate are emotions, conjoined by chemical reactions sparked biologically. Biology also unites all human being the world over; by Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, and Species. So, to say all people are one, means we are all biologically linked to one another.

To expand, night and day are both caused by the orbit our planet makes around the sun. All of the stuff out there in space: suns, planets, asteroids, comets, nebulas, quasars, even supernova are all linked chemically. Our entire universe is a giant chemical collection, which humans have mapped out as the periodic table of elements. What get's more interesting, is that the biological unification of all life on earth, may have been started by the chemical unification of all matter in the universe. Thus, between people and animals there is unity, and between life and the universe there is unity.

So, duality exists, differences exist, but beneath the appearance of physical reality, chemical and biological unification exists which harmonizes us all. All things are one, and that one expresses itself through duality.

Hope that helps.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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It is the mind that divides. Knowledge is the source of division.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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there is & there isn't. duality is an illusion/tool where everything is true & nothing is permissible, & nothing is true & everything is permissible.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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You can't quantify God. Even calling God, "unity" subtracts from the truth of what God really is. We are all one because we are one with God and God is a mystery. Chemicals are nothing more than tools.

Beyond conceptualization lies the truth. God is the truth. But even the term, "God" subtracts from what he really is because everyone can have their own interpretation of what that term means. We aren't one in biological chemicals, although those things are not separate from us, we are one with something much more fundamental and much more meaningful.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by PinkAndBlack
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there is & there isn't. duality is an illusion/tool where everything is true & nothing is permissible, & nothing is true & everything is permissible.


There is no isn't. How could there BE something that is not?



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Well, one has to experience duality in order to remember one-ness.

The story of Adam and Eve is a good example. They lived in paradise (one-ness) and ate from the tree of knowledge (duality).

Why do we actually live in duality? I think if we knew why we 'chose' to live in duality, we actually solved the Great Mystery of Life.


My personal opinion is that investigating and experiencing duality conscientiously brings both extremes closer together. Accepting the fact that each side, postive and negative, male and female, etc, is in fact an unmissable part of everything (and thus everyone) puts more balance in your existence.

Perhaps the full comtemplation of duality is one-ness. I doubt men will ever reach that point in his life, but I know for sure that pursuing it, makes you a better person.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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We're all one yes, but to leave it at that or even try to justify that point for that matter is only half of that truth. We're infinity separate pieces yet we're also one, but just cus we're the same doesn't mean we're not different. Anyone digg'n this, or should I project my pineal gland to another dimension/angle?
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by PinkAndBlack
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there is & there isn't. duality is an illusion/tool where everything is true & nothing is permissible, & nothing is true & everything is permissible.


There is no isn't. How could there BE something that is not?


The same way that there can NOT be something that IS... digg?
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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It is the mind that divides. Knowledge is the source of division.


That means knowledge precedes observation because duality precedes the observer.

Duality precedes the observer, but not the capacity to observe. Consciousness is the capacity to observe. We are that.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by PinkAndBlack

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by PinkAndBlack
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there is & there isn't. duality is an illusion/tool where everything is true & nothing is permissible, & nothing is true & everything is permissible.


There is no isn't. How could there BE something that is not?


The same way that there can NOT be something that IS... digg?
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Yeah, and that would be true except for the fact that existence is eternal, so there never 'was not'.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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4. THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY

"Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its
pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are
identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet;
all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be
reconciled."--The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that "everything is dual"; "everything has two poles"; "everything has its pair of opposites," all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: "Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree"; "opposites are the same, differing only in degree"; "the pairs of opposites may be reconciled"; "extremes meet"; "everything is and isn't, at the same time"; "all truths are but half-truths"; "every truth is half-false"; "there are two sides to everything," etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that "opposites" are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them. To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although "opposites," are really the same thing, the differences consisting merely of degrees of the same thing. Look at your thermometer and see if you can discover where "heat" terminates and "cold" begins! There is no such thing as "absolute heat" or "absolute cold"--the two terms "heat" and "cold" simply indicate varying degrees of the same thing, and that "same thing" which manifests as "heat" and "cold" is merely a form, variety, and rate of Vibration. So "heat" and "cold" are simply the "two poles" of that which we call "Heat"--and the phenomena attendant thereupon are manifestations of the Principle of Polarity. The same Principle manifests in the case of "Light and Darkness," which are the same thing, the difference consisting of varying degrees between the two poles of the phenomena. Where does "darkness" leave off, and "light" begin? What is the difference between "Large and Small"? Between "Hard and Soft"? Between "Black and White"? Between "Sharp and Dull"? Between "Noise and Quiet"? Between "High and Low"? Between "Positive and Negative"? The Principle of Polarity explains these paradoxes, and no other Principle can supersede it. The same Principle operates on the Mental Plane. Let us take a radical and extreme example--that of "Love and Hate," two mental states apparently totally different. And yet there are degrees of Hate and degrees of Love, and a middle point in which we use the terms "Like or Dislike," which shade into each other so gradually that sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we "like" or "dislike" or "neither." And all are simply degrees of the same thing, as you will see if you will but think a moment. And, more than this (and considered of more importance by the Hermetists), it is possible to change the vibrations of Hate to the vibrations of Love, in one's own mind, and in the minds of others. Many of you, who read these lines, have had personal experiences of the involuntary rapid transition from Love to Hate, and the reverse, in your own case and that of others. And you will therefore realize the possibility of this being accomplished by the use of the Will, by means of the Hermetic formulas. "Good and Evil" are but the poles of the same thing, and the Hermetist understands the art of transmuting Evil into Good, by means of an application of the Principle of Polarity. In short, the "Art of Polarization" becomes a phase of "Mental Alchemy" known and practiced by the ancient and modern Hermetic Masters. An understanding of the Principle will enable one to change his own Polarity, as well as that of others, if he will devote the time and study necessary to master the art.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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I believe the answer to the question posed in this thread is as itisnowagain says: Knowledge. The bible also says this.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
If all is one, why is there duality?

Duality is blatantly obvious. Male/female, good/bad, love/hate, etc. Unity, is more subliminal, but when experienced, is surrealy unmistakeable.

I see that all is one. My question is: What causes the appearance of duality?

ETA: Happy Thanksgiving!
edit on 24-11-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)


Apart from two, there can only be one. For more than one to exist, there must be two that are different. If we take the standard model of physics, the universe was initially in a high state of order with low entropy. This would have looked like a solid mass of even energy at high frequency, like a fog of endless sameness. Divide the darkness form the light and you get division. Light is both a particle and a wave. Divide the light and consciousness is revealed by comparison of more than one. All of existence is light and wave with awareness of itself.

The Father is what preexisted all that can be. This is infinity at rest. All possibility. When a choice is made to divide the first part of infinity, the wave (Son of God / Law / Order) is collapsed and a state is changed. Choice is the collapsing of wave function in light. This process created reality by forming the first dimension to the second and then to the third. The third dimension is then moved by a choice. Once a choice is made to move in the fourth dimension, nothing becomes something. All possibility resides in the fifth dimension. God preexists from this point of reference, apart from all reality or change. We collapse the wave of infinity by making a choice. By this fact, we must work our way up by the use of infinity. We create our world by choices. We must be less than what our source is or we would simply be a copy. In this case, there would still only be one. We must be lower to be different.

The Trinity of God is Father (Prima Materia), Son (Wave / Word / Information / Laws) and Holy Spirit (Consciousness). Where did these originate? They did not originate. They were there from the beginning. God calls Himself I AM. HE IS, therefore we are. He is the Prime Mover and we are the moved. He is infinity at rest. We are infinity in motion, governed by the law of the one that cannot change. We are repeating the process of discovery. The process never ends as infinity expresses itself in all directions. Expansion is what we see in the universe.

As the universe expands, the golden ratio is seen from one perspective. Time is constant, but stretches or contracts by the perspective of the observer. This golden ratio shows up in all of nature as a spyral. It is a tororiadle vortex because it is in constant movement. All of reality is a repeating circle through the spyral of existence. When two become one, the process repeats. The first two becoming one is God becoming two. This miracle of one thing then allows further union and changed states. We are the product of these unions and the purpose for creation. We are to repeat the process by dividing the light from the darkness for life to continue in peace. Love is the point.

Reduce the above and you get a hologram type of reality, but vastly more than we can conceive or describe.


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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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One and other are the same. You cannot have one without other. Other validates, provides context, acts as an observer.

But, for the most part, duality represents merely constructive/creative (female) and destructive (male) forces.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Hi smithjustinb.


Originally posted by smithjustinb
. . .why is there duality?. . .

It is also a manifestation for our "free will".

We are here on "earth" and in "this life" to "experience" free will.

Look at the links, in my signature, about "do we know" & "The Ra material",
and you will have the answers to almost all the important
questions of your life ! !

Blue skies.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Ying and yang.




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