To OWS and all who support the Occupy movement

You are protesting about the so called "1%" having most of your countries wealth and power, correct?
Do you not realise that you are yourselves part of the 1% (well more like 20%, but it's obvious not actual percentages you are using, merely to emphasise that it is the majority complaining about the minority) globally?

Perhaps you could try not being so self-centred, and realise that there are many global issues which are far more important. People with legitimate causes are dieing in Syria, Egypt and Yemen for their right to protest.
Meanwhile, you, who are so angry at the minority, yet are part of it yourselves, could try doing something to help the global situation...

That is all.

That is so true.A homeless person can live like a god in the west compared to people living in most countries.I am hoping the OWS evolves into something less egocentric over time.

It is being very naive and bias to attributed the condition of the global oppressed to the Occupy movement in the United States.

The very same forces that the Occupy movement is opposing are the very ones who enslave the globe.

Your Anti-American bigotry is showing.

What if I wanted to protest our nations foreign policies in other nations, and our corporate policies?

I am thankful for being on top of the game, and I choose to use my position on the top to speak out for others who have no voice.

I believe it's those who want to sit in their cozy lives and refuse to put up a fuss that is the problem.
I will not sit by idly while someone suggests Apathy is the best solution. That's what got us in this mess to begin with.

Their has been a class war going on for quite some time only the poorer class has not been resisting the wealthy war campaign and now the poor are fighting back. I support OWS I support arab spring I support the poor resisting the wealthy I only hope it does not turn america socialist / communist TOO LATE.

reply to post by theovermensch


It is true that Americans enjoy a extremely high standard of living.

Are we suppose to feel bad about that ?

Our standard of living is the Direct result of and the product of the Freedoms that we enjoy.

Other nation’s governments have not respected the Rights of the individual in the same manner as our Government is required to under the Constitution.

The current economic difficulties in the United States are a direct result of the United States Government straying away from our core beliefs. Policies have been changing slowly, over many years and Administrations to empower the Corporation, the Wealthy, over the common man resulting in a transfer of Wealth from the General Population to the Wealthily.

The Occupy movement is in opposition to this Wealth transfer.

The standard of living should be raised for all person around the World, but we don’t accomplish this by lowering the standard of living in the United States.

This can best be accomplished by first empowering the individual globally through the expression of true liberty, coupled with the removal of the “Slave Master” the IMF.

Which is the very intuitional banking system that the Occupy movement is apposing.

Ridiculous argument. So hungry, jobless, homeless people can't complain just because people in the same country have more wealth than they do in others? Working along these lines...

Black people can't protest about being racially oppressed because its worse in South Africa.
Gay people can't protest about gay marriage laws because in the Middle East they're treated worse.

You're absurd. An oppressed people is still an oppressed people, wherever around the world it may be.

reply to post by muzzleflash


If you dont play by the rules The United States will overthrow your government or put sanctions and embargos on you.They are not interested in 'liberating' people any more than they are in 'democracy'.If the United States wants to decide how countries should act,they should be open to criticism themselves.Until recently the US controlled the UN but China and Russia are starting to ignore them.I cant see the US staying on top for much longer.Maybe the US will care more about countries in need when hyperinflation kicks in and you are the ones out in the cold.It could happen.It looks more and more likely each day.

reply to post by brokedown


I agree with taking out the IMF mafia.That would fix alot.And I dont mean to rip on Americans but I think if you live in the west you are pretty much already in a utopia.Especially compared to Somalia.How can anyone want more for themselves when people are starving to death.Not many people starve to death in the west.

reply to post by theovermensch


Most people around the Global are unaware of how closely their Nation’s economic stability is directly tied to the United States through the “Petro Dollar”.

It is a FACT that the World already has a “World” currency, and that is the US Federal Reserve Note. It is very true that ANY Nation that threatens to stop using the US dollar for oil transactions will witness direct retaliation from the US Government including military intervention.

So, what does this mean to you ?

When the US Dollar does collapse it will bring down the entire globe’s economy. Every Nation on Earth will suffer and they will feel it first, this is just the way the system has been designed. The United States has “insulated” itself using the rest of the world as that insulation.

The Dollar is going to collapse, this is just a mathematical certainty, this is just the way Central Banking System is designed, and, those who are the benefactors of Central Banking use the stolen wealth to acquire “Real” assets so when the game is up they are sitting with ownership of real assets while most others have worthless paper.

Economic Upheaval is going to happen, but those outside of the United States will feel it first and worst.

Originally posted by Tea4One
Ridiculous argument. So hungry, jobless, homeless people can't complain just because people in the same country have more wealth than they do in others? Working along these lines...

Black people can't protest about being racially oppressed because its worse in South Africa.
Gay people can't protest about gay marriage laws because in the Middle East they're treated worse.

You're absurd. An oppressed people is still an oppressed people, wherever around the world it may be.

What's that flying past you? A bird? A plane? No, it's the point I am making.
I am angry at the sheer hypocrisy of people protesting about something, without realising that they are what they are protesting about.

For example:
A man starts a small cleaning company. Over a number of years, he works hard and builds it up. Eventually, he sells it for £10million. He is now, by most standards rich, and one of the 1%, or minority. People protest about him being rich.
A member of the protest is a sales assistant, on £12k a year. She is not rich by the standards of the movement. However, on a global scale, she is earning more per month than most in India and Chine (almost 1/3rd of the worlds population) among others, will earn in a year.
Should they protest about her 'wealth'?
Another member of the protest is unemployed, has never had a job and makes no effort to find one. He gets £10k in benefits a year (arbitrary number used to illustrate my point, not the amount someone on benefits may or may not get a year). Again, far more than a large proportion of the worlds population.

That sales assistant and the man on benefits are not oppressed, they aren't forced to spend 18 hours a day in a sweatshop, or living in fear of a hail of machine gun fire. They might moan about how little they have, but their quality of life is far higher, and they have far more, than the majority of the GLOBAL population.

I get your point. It really isn't a new one; I have seen it voiced on ATS mroe than a few times. However, buried within your point is a dangerous argument -- That because we are doing so well compared to the rest of the world, we should just shut up and ignore our problems. I disagree with that sentiment. However, being a pragmatist, I also realize that until we ARE dropped to living standards akin to China or the poorer parts of Russia, the majority of Americans will be complacent.

In my opinion, this is exactly the attitude the power brokers and game players are counting on. They want the populace numb and quiet. The lesson was long ago learned that you don't make dramatic changes in the area of personal liberties, power balance, or finances. People react quickly to these things, so those who can make these changes prefer to make them in small bite-sized pieces through the slow manipulation of culture (such as introducing phrases like "bite sized pieces" into the vocabulary )

I support those who will go out and protest and occupy. I don't support them acting like hooligans, but I also understand it is not all of them. The one voice I have heard to be consistant is that they want a separation of business and state. I am 100% behind that. Mixing business and government just corrupts culture.