Originally posted by SecretFace
NEver been too sure about this guy!
It's all down to interpretation and translation. I could predict that in the future there will be a conflict between two great powers and it will
more than likely become true, especially if I do not give a year or time duration. Natural disasters, war, famine and disease have been around since
the dawn of man, while natural disasters since the dawn of the planet! To predict any of these things happening is a safe bet. You could say that some
places are actually mentioned, that is if the translations are genuine, but even then only places that have been scenes of conflict throughout
Don't forget this guy lived during the 1500's, he was alive when you had a major European conflict, The War of the Holy League which started in
Italy. Indeed the region was pretty much engulfed in one conflict or another throughout the 1500's. Then you had the Ottoman civil war and indeed
various conflicts throughout Nostradamus's lifetime involving the Ottomans which include the war along with France to fight the Persians or the
Safavid dynasty, who were rulers of now Iran.
When you look at it, any one of us could make vague predictions and prophecies based around events that are as common now as they were then and we
would probably get every single one correct at one point or another in the future.
Now if he had said we will all be using computers, driving machines and there will be such a thing as fast food, I'd be impressed!
25-11-2011 by SecretFace because: (no reason given)
You took the words right out of my mouth. The entire 16th and early 17th centure where full of war. Considering the times that Nostradamus lived, it
would seem to me, that this is what he was talking about. Although his background, to me, suggests that he did have the ability to comprehend the 21st
century, and what may come about.
I don't think it's the truth in saying that, when many of these prophecies are first devoloped, that because of a lack of understanding in what they
are seeing, lead to the creation of metaphors to convey what was seen. I think it's just a lack of understanding on the side of the interpretation of
what is being said. They know darn well what they are trying to say... IMO.
I don't even think it would be that far fetched for Nostradamus to have considered the possibility of a 'driving machine' or fast food... With his
all around knowledge, and understanding of progression. It would seem that his creative part of the mind could comprehend and imagine such ideas. Just
think about how much 'sci-fiction' becomes 'science fact'
Here's the kicker...
Can freewill, coincide with fate? As the more you discuss freewill, the more you conclude that there is no such thing. Even down to subconsciousness
up to action, it seems that fate wins for everything is a product of causality which then gives way to predisposition(cognitive bais sense), which
then gives construct to action, and the whole cycle repeats. So then if there is no freewill, then all roles and actions can now be prophecised, it's
just the timing in which is the tricky part.
Once you understand the very nature of these cycles, astronomy, evolution of 'consciousness', AND evolution as a whole and what I would call a
'seasonal(seasoned) progression' and how cycles with in another respective cycle correlate. This is when 'time' or dates can be applied... To me,
it's more than plausible that there is 'freewill' on an individual, but a collective or society does have a fate. It must go through 'evolution'
if you were, in order to reach different paradigms.
One interesting connection:
Octave of Worldviews - Daniel Sheehan (length2:56)
restoration of peace in Century 10, quatrain 74
"The year the great seventh number is accomplished,
Appearing at the time of the great games of slaughter:
Not far from the age of the great millennium,
When the dead will come out of their graves"
The video doesn't completely explain the understanding of an Octave set of World Views, but if you are to watch the video on UFO and JFK by Daniel
Sheehan, he fully explains it.
Essentially the 8th in which we are emerging into, is one that consists of...
Instead of looking out for answers, kinda extraverted I suppose, we will be looking in, with already having the knowledge of what surrounds us. When
it was said 'When the dead will come out of their graves' it was to mean, that the knowledge gathered from the previous 7 will become the construct
of the 8th, ALL OF IT, we will finally learn from history. Which will probably take a WWIII to engrain it into our comprehensions of everything.
It's like, everything humanity learned during times of Red orange yellow green blue indigo and violete, will become whitelight. Welcome to heaven.