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Who's behind 11 sep., some statistics

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posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 03:22 AM
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Let's see what numbers can tell about it.

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$1m Estimated value of a painting the Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas, received from Prince Bandar, Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States and Bush family friend.

0 Number of times Bush mentioned Saudi Arabia in his three State of the Union addresses.

1,700 Percentage increase between 2001 and 2002 of Saudi Arabian spending on public relations in the United States.

79 Percentage of the 11 September hijackers who came from Saudi Arabia.

3 Number of 11 September hijackers whose entry visas came through special US-Saudi "Visa Express" programme.

140 Number of Saudis, including members of the Bin Laden family, evacuated from United States almost immediately after 11 September.

14 Number of Immigration and Naturalisation Service (INS) agents assigned to track down 1,200 known illegal immigrants in the United States from countries where al-Qa'ida is active.

$3m Amount the White House was willing to grant the 9/11 Commission to investigate the 11 September attacks.

$0 Amount approved by George Bush to hire more INS special agents.

$10m Amount Bush cut from the INS's existing terrorism budget

22,600 Number of planes carrying unscreened cargo that fly into New York each month.

5 Estimated Percentage of US air cargo that is screened, including cargo transported on passenger planes.

95 Percentage of foreign goods that arrive in the United States by sea.

2 Percentage of those goods subjected to thorough inspection.

$5.5bn Estimated cost to secure fully US ports over the Next decade.

$0 Amount Bush allocated for port security in 2003.

$46m Amount the Bush administration has budgeted for port security in 2005.

15,000 Number of major chemical facilities in the United States.

100 Number of US chemical plants where a terrorist act could endanger the lives of more than one million people.

0 Number of new drugs or vaccines against "priority pathogens" listed by the Centres for Disease Control that have been developed and introduced since 11 September 2001.

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The first part of this list do seem to point at Saudi Arabia. Why the Withe House gave the Saudis and the Bin Laden family permission to leave without being interrogated is suspicious, if it wasn't for them being friends of the Bush family. Of corse I don't belive the Bush family have a hand in terrorism... But we do know the Bin Laden family has...
It is way too easy to claim they have no dealings with their brother/son (Osama) but where is the proof of that claim? I am aware of asian and arabian opinion that wester people are naive and also their close-knit family ties.
I think the Bush family has fallen for 'the wizards first rule' (Terry Goodkind) and belive in the Bin Laden family... because they WANT to belive them. Osama does not seem to have had a hand in the 11/9 attack (he admit all other terror attacks he is responsible for, but he never admitted this one) so I have come to belive it is the rest of the Bin Laden family that is behind it. Osama want the destruction of Saudi Arabia and so I suspect the rest of his family want to assist in that. Their plan was most likely to make US declear war on Saudi and destroy its government. Then, as the Lin Laden family has 'bought' the Bush family, they would ask the US president to be Saudi's new leaders. But somehow the Bush'es somehow blamed Iraq. A big suprise to all.




posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 03:56 AM
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Bin laden never claimed responsibility for 9/11?...You serious...he's the head of Al quieda...Al Quieda claimed responsibility...what more proof do you need?



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 04:23 AM
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I read an artickle by an egyptian expert on Al quieda and he said they could not have been behind it because of the following (don't remember his name)

1. Osama denied to know about it (at first anyway, don't know about today) and as a religious leader they don't lie.
2. Al quieda is religious extremists and follow their holy book wich forbids them to drink alchohol
3. withnesses had seen the terrorists drinking alchohol, wich is the strongest proof against the terrorist having anything to do with the fanatic Al quieda.

The egyptian expert mentioned some additional points I can't rightly remember, but he belived that it had to be a government that was behind 11 sept. attack.
If you combine my firts post with his belive, there is only one possible government...

EDIT;
I just found this link www.atsnn.com... where Saudi are blamed for at least funding the attacks! WOW so the egyptian professor was right!


[edit on 5-9-2004 by Ghaele]



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 08:21 AM
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Whoa....hold up a second...this guy youve just quoted is out of his gourd...just because its against his religion to lie and drink...means that he and al quieda werent behind 9/11?....If theses guys followed Islam correctly...we wouldnt be in the mess to begin with...



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 11:43 AM
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Terrorists won't go on a suicide mission like the 9/11 for money. If the terrorists had been a part of Osama's group they would have done it for religious reasons = not drinking alchohol. For fanaticks like that killing people would be ok (would view any american as an evil person), but drinking would not have been accepted. They were after all going to their heaven or whatever they imagined and would not have dishonored their traditions shortly before meeting Mohammad or whomever they expect to meet in the afterlife.

As the terrorists did not behave properly for a moslim they can not have been part of a religious group like Osama's...

On the other hand not ALL the terrorists have been seen drinking so yes some of them could just as well be Osama's boys as well as fanatic government agents killing for their country. That kind of things have happened before.

[edit on 5-9-2004 by Ghaele]



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ghaele
I read an artickle by an egyptian expert on Al quieda and he said they could not have been behind it because of the following (don't remember his name)

1. Osama denied to know about it (at first anyway, don't know about today) and as a religious leader they don't lie.
2. Al quieda is religious extremists and follow their holy book wich forbids them to drink alchohol
3. withnesses had seen the terrorists drinking alchohol, wich is the strongest proof against the terrorist having anything to do with the fanatic Al quieda.

The egyptian expert mentioned some additional points I can't rightly remember, but he belived that it had to be a government that was behind 11 sept. attack.
If you combine my firts post with his belive, there is only one possible government...

EDIT;
I just found this link www.atsnn.com... where Saudi are blamed for at least funding the attacks! WOW so the egyptian professor was right!


Saudis come to America to drink, do drugs, and hang out with hookers. They are so two faced it is not even funny. If you board a plane in Saudi Arabia you can see the Muslims come on in their religous garb and go to the restroom and immediately change into secular western clothing. The minute the plane is out of Saudi airspace, the liquor flows freely.

[edit on 5-9-2004 by Ghaele]



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ghaele


As the terrorists did not behave properly for a moslim they can not have been part of a religious group like Osama's...


[edit on 5-9-2004 by Ghaele]



True muslims dont kill....plain and simple...they did...in 93...in Yemen...and on 9/11....they arent true muslims...so that "too religious" theory is out the door...



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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Ghaele, your assumption is wrong. A friend told me that OBL is in the payroll of the US government. Also he says that 9/11 is a plan organized and executed by Israel's secret services together with the US administration / shadow government in order to:
1. Eliminate Israel enemies by using US tax payers' money
2. Increase the budget dedicated to the US Army

He also believes that SARS is part of the deception game.

My friend says that 9/11 is not what it looks like: all we have seen in NY involved military tanker aircrafts and the Pentagon was not hit by flight 77.



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 06:34 PM
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You're right Wisdom: This has been hashed and rehashed here before and 90 % of the world knows this government was involved.
Why do people not see this?
What more proof does anyone need? You can speculate all you want but the finger points one way:



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 08:18 PM
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Osama (& Probably Saddam too now that I think about it - Remember the Picture with Rumsfeld) was on The CIA Payroll. He was part of the Mujahadeen against the
Soviet Union - that is why he was being Paid by the U.S. Government.

I don't Trust the MOSSAD at all (I have an Idea guys - why don't you Remove your SPIES from the Pentagon Thank Israel our Buddy ole Pal)!

Also I am pretty sure that Pakistan's ISI is Linked to Al-Queda. The Islamic Extremists there have tried to Kill Mushariff like 3 times already because he is Not Insane like the Rest of Them & Sides with Bush. Also Putin is about to go into BERSERKER MODE!!! These SLIME deserved to be Wiped Off the Face of the EARTH!!!




posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 08:43 PM
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0 - number of people tried for 9/11.

$11 Million - minimum amount of money made on put options on airlines and insurance companies that benefitted from obvious 9/11 insider info.

Those stock sales were never investigated.

They would lead right to the people who benefitted.

Those are the people who knew it would happen, at minimum.



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by WisdomMaster
Ghaele, your assumption is wrong. A friend told me that OBL is in the payroll of the US government. Also he says that 9/11 is a plan organized and executed by Israel's secret services together with the US administration / shadow government in order to:
1. Eliminate Israel enemies by using US tax payers' money
2. Increase the budget dedicated to the US Army

He also believes that SARS is part of the deception game.

My friend says that 9/11 is not what it looks like: all we have seen in NY involved military tanker aircrafts and the Pentagon was not hit by flight 77.


Your friend is an idiot



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man


Your friend is an idiot




"Friends" are usually very reliable sources...especially ones that dont work for the govt (just an assumption...but im probably right)....



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 05:11 PM
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Quote: "9/11 was a plan organized and executed by Israel's secret services together with the U.S. Administration / Shadow Government in order to Eliminate Israel's enemies (i.e. Islamic/Moslem Regimes) - using U.S. Tax Payers' Money" & might I add Weapons & Soldiers.

Also: "the Pentagon was not hit by Flight 77" -> This is a Fact - don't try to deny it!

Sounds Plausible to me - Not Idiotic at all. Do YOU have any PROOF to the Contrary my friend?

Let me ask you a Question my friend - Do you believe everything that the so-called "Government" tells you? Do you Buy the Constant Endless Propaganda that they have been prattling off for Years Now? According to Bush the War in Iraq is part of the War on Terror. Remember all of that stuff about how Iraq was this HUGE THREAT to the U.S.A. well I hate to bring it to your attention but it DIDNT PAN OUT!!!

It sounds like you are the Naive Idiot my Friend!!!



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 05:22 PM
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What's wrong with you. He had inside info. First of all does your "stats" have a credible link? I don't think so.

By the Way, Do you think Bush knew about it and secretly wanted to destroy the towers and ruin the economy and kill many lives.

I am sure if he knew about it he would have done everything he could to prevent 5,000 lives from being lost.

QUIT your whining about Bush, because frankly I am tired of it.



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by BasementAddix
Bin laden never claimed responsibility for 9/11?...You serious...he's the head of Al quieda...Al Quieda claimed responsibility...what more proof do you need?


From my understanding the tape is called the many heads of the lion or something like that... This is the tape where he commended these guys from "mujahideen" that flew into the building...



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by BasementAddix

Originally posted by Ghaele


As the terrorists did not behave properly for a moslim they can not have been part of a religious group like Osama's...


[edit on 5-9-2004 by Ghaele]



True muslims dont kill....plain and simple...they did...in 93...in Yemen...and on 9/11....they arent true muslims...so that "too religious" theory is out the door...


There's a difference between radical fundamentalist Muslims and devout Muslims. Sure devout Muslims don't kill, but radicals will. The same can be said about Christians. The point being, the sole reason to commit yourself to a suicide mission against the "infidels" is to become a martyr and go to heaven, why do something the night before that, by your faith, will not allow you to go to heaven? This is one point of many in the 9/11 picture that always gets to me...



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 06:06 PM
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Quote: "By the Way, Do you think Bush knew about it and secretly wanted to destroy the towers and ruin the economy and kill many lives."

No - I Don't. I do not Accuse Bush of Complicity... I Accuse HIM & the
U.S. Government of INCOMPITENCE!!!





posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 06:41 PM
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Religion has always been used as an excuse in one form or another for justifying one act or another. Devout or extremists it doesn't matter which side your on, what better tool to use to control or use those who will do your bidding? Or to get the majority of believers on your side..

No I am not an atheist, but when you see people being manipulated by religion you start to question it's purpose.



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 06:56 PM
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Ruppert Blows The Lid
Off 911 In New Book
Posted At Kitco.com
Copyright 2002 bw/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
9-6-4

As Mike Ruppert will delinate in his upcoming book "Crossing the
Rubicon" there were at least five "Training Exercises" in progress on
the morning of 9/11 2001. Each and every one, and any others we may not
yet know of, was under the control of our vice president Dick Cheney.

1 ) MILITARY EXERCISE NORTHERN VIGILANCE: Transferred most of the combat
ready interceptors and possibly many AWACS from the north east into
northen Canada and Alaska. This explains,in part, why there were only
eight ( 8 ) combat interceptors in the NE on 9/11.

2 ) NON-MILITARY BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II: FEMA arrived in NYC on
--> ! " 10 " Sept 2001 to set up the command post for FEMA, NEW YORK
CITY AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE on Manhattan's PIER 29. This shows our
masters are loving, they made a strong effort to minimize the required
deaths. This was probably forced on them by the CFR, nice guys who must
occasionally kill innocent people.

3 ) WARGAME EXERCISE, VIGILANT GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated
hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector. The 9/11 commission made only
mention of this single exercise and lied about its purpose. The
commisssion said its purpose was to intercept Russian bombers.

4 ) WARGAME EXERCISE, VIGILANT WARRIOR: This exercise simulated
hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector.

5 ) WARGAME EXERCISE NORTHERN GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated
hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector.

At the time of the real hi-jacking there were as many as 22 hi-jacked
aircraft on NORAD's radar screen.

Some of these drills were "Live Fly" exercises were actual aircraft,
likely flown by remote control were simulating hi-jacked aircraft. Some
of the drills electronically added the hi-jacked aircraft into the
system. All this as the real hi-jackings began.

NORAD could not tell the difference between the seventeen bogus blips
and the five actual hi-jacked aircraft blips. Cheney could.

It is clear we know almost nothing about how 9/11 was executed. We
should know it was an exceeding highly technological operation involving
dozens of major projects each employing large resources.



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