Occupy Black Friday

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Absolutely.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Largely? Have you polled every Occupier? No proof of Soros' involvement can be found. Your claim is new to me the only debunked connection I've seen is through Tides. Can you link me to what shows this?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Epirus

 

Well I'm not gonna tell you what to do. Only you can do that. I can tell you that the OWS is largely supported by anti-capitalists, unions, socialists, anarchists, communists, the nazi party, the black panthers and many others. They have excepted funds by Alliance for Global Justice care of George Soros and they have started a non-profit that sends its money to places like nicaragua and helps funds things such as the drug cartels.

As you can see from my first post in this thread I agreed with your original stance because I was using logic and I thought people should be able to enjoy their holiday without reminders of the hell that's going on for a couple of days. I'm not sure who told you the ignorance you just unleashed but that's not fair to anyone. It's a blatant lie and a message full of hate which serves no purpose in promoting intellectual debate.

Originally posted by kosmicjack
I agree that people have the right to shop if they want but people have the right to protest as well.

I have the right to not be trampled, no?
Say... maybe I'll just work a 12 hour day... screw shopping and the crowded stores ... OWS or no OWS...

reply to post by Kali74

www.humanevents.com...

Radical anti-American billionaire George Soros is a major backer of a left-wing group that is funneling money to the Occupy Wall Street movement.

The nonprofit organization at the receiving end of Soros’ largesse, Alliance for Global Justice, is managing donations benefiting the communists, socialists, anarchists and hippies now occupying Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan. As of Oct. 19, OWS had taken in a grand total of $435,000 from all sources, including donations made by individuals online and in person, according to reports.

It should surprise no one that Soros (net worth: $22 billion), the ultimate Wall Street insider and preeminent funder of the activist Left today, embraces Occupy Wall Street.

en.wikipedia.org...

On October 27, according to The Wall Street Journal, "A few weeks ago, the Alliance for Global Justice, a Washington-based nonprofit, agreed to sponsor Occupy Wall Street and lend it its tax-exempt status, so donors could write off contributions. That means the Alliance for Global Justice's board has final say on spending, though it says it's not involved in decisions and will only step in if the protesters want to spend money on something that might violate their tax-exempt status."[61][61][62] As of late October it was reported that the OWS Finance Committee works with a lawyer and an accountant to track finances; the group has a substantial amount of money deposited at the Amalgamated Bank nearby, after first making deposits at the Lower East Side People's Federal Credit Union.[63] In late October the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street registered for tax exempt status as a 501(c)(3)[64] Occupy Wall Street accepts tax-deductible donations, primarily through the movement's website.[65]

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I don't know about blatant lie, but fair enough.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Epirus

 

I don't know about blatant lie, but fair enough.

Someone who does research which ends promptly at the conclusion they expected or supported originally is no different than someone who does no research at all. You need to open your mind my friend. Like I said, I clearly agreed with your original thought but you've evolved the thread into a fictional baby conceived by some hardcore radio host full of hatred.

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No you're right, I was off topic. Hateful or not, I don't think so but whatever man. Still discussing black friday, not funding or what OWS is about.

reply to post by thehoneycomb

So what does the Alliance for Global Justice do for Occupy Wall Street (OWS)? Essentially we collect and process their donations and pass the money on to them as a project of the AfGJ. In IRS parlance we take “responsibility for all financial and programmatic matters” of OWS. We are responsible to include their financial reporting as part of our own when we file our annual tax return, which for non-profits is called a form 990. We are accountable legally and financially to prove that all expenditures by OWS are within the IRS’s tax-exempt rules. If the IRS audits us, we will have to show supporting evidence of the numbers we report. Occupy Wall Street’s obligation to us is to provide the accounting and receipts we’ll need for the IRS and to not jeopardize our tax-exempt status through any actions of theirs.

afgj.org

I fail to see how Soros is funding them through this organization. They are managing the donations with their tax exempt status until OWS recieves their own, which they have applied for.

Your link to humanevents.com also goes on to say:

The Alliance for Global Justice has received grants from George Soros’ philanthropy, the Open Society Institute​ ($100,000 since 2004), and from the left-wing, money launderers of the Tides Foundation ($60,000 since 2004) that allows high-profile donors to give secretly to radical causes.

Which is the debunked connection I commented on earlier. According to Reuters.

reply to post by Kali74


OK but as Epirus pointed out that is another topic.

Deserving another thread.

Go shopping and spend money on worthless gifts.it is your right to do so.No one has the right to restrict my activities to do so. When you occupy citizens and businesses were people need the job to meet ends... you failed.

Go Occupy the Congress, who sets all the rules and regulations.

WHATS more IMPORTANT, having your little shopping day go by without a minor inconvenience of seeing people taking a STAND... [color=cyan]or CHANGING this country for us and our children??

Whats more important?

A small percentage of folks here are acting like little whinny babies who cant enjoy life without having their little shopping fix!!

.... hmmm, the very traits of the SNAKES who are [color=cyan] a SCROOGE to We The People EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!

A minor inconvenience to the SNAKES on ONE day, or [color=cyan]a major INCONVENIENCE EVERYDAY in the lives of ALL of us??

WHich is more important?

Stop whining and GET A GRIP!!!

Theres MORE to LIFE than SHOPPING!! Like our FUTURE for one thing.

JEEZ!! Whiny silver-spoon-born babies LOL.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


In other words lalalalalalala I can't hear you, right?

Cool, have fun hurting people trying to get a bargain on their Holiday shopping.. Way to hit the 1% where it hurts; the 99%

There is a leader of this movement; and he's an idiot.

Originally posted by Kali74
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In other words lalalalalalala I can't hear you, right?

In all fairness I think that the OP realized that he/she digressed. While I don't agree with the comment that was made by the OP during separation from the point I still think it's respectful that he/she didn't continue to argue an argument that has no end and instead admitted that it had digressed and stopped the spiral.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
This is America and people have the right to shop wherever they want without being harassed.

its definitely what Americans do best

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
If OWS decides to get in the way of consumers they are likely to get laid out on the curb and dealt with quickly.

Unlikely to happen, unless they were blocking the entrances of places people NEED like a pharmacy or hardware.

reply to post by AnonymousVan


I think of it as a perceptual bias. No matter what they do, people who are opposed to them are against their course of action. They see everything they do as wrong no matter what. They could occupy black friday and get condemned by the same people who would criticize them for not standing up against corporations who supply their videocameras and laptops.

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The disruption of corporate commerce is an act of rebellion that should be supported. Jobs go overseas because of corporations like Wal-Mart,Target etc...All these big box stores do is contribute to the demise of health and welfare of all citizens.

Taking a stand is justified. It's not telling people what to do. It's trying to save souls like an evangelist. Sadly nobody wants to get saved.

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Tell me....how many souls do you think an evangelist would save if he and 2,000 of his followers stood in front of a retail store yelling at customers?

Approximately ZERO. 

As with religion, don't push your OWS on other people. Everyone knows about OWS now. If they want to join they know where to find you! They respect your freedom to protest. Respect their freedom to choose where they want to shop.