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Dr. Ahmed Farouk (General Coordinator of Field Hospitals in Tahrir Square) stated that Mustard Gas has been used against peaceful protesters.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The US did not create this - the UK did.
The US does not use CR for crowd control - The UK did
The US military does not use CR - its listed as a chemical weapon with combat classification.
Wiki - CR Gasedit on 23-11-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
combinedsystems.com...
.... it is not "Made in the USA."
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The US did not create this - the UK did.
The US does not use CR for crowd control - The UK did
The US military does not use CR - its listed as a chemical weapon with combat classification.
Wiki - CR Gasedit on 23-11-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
Dibenz-(b,f)-1,4-oxazepine (CR) is a more recent tear gas, first synthesized in 1962. It reportedly is more potent and less toxic than CS. Part of its high safety profile is due to its low volatility, which minimizes its effects deep in the pulmonary system. However, it is still is not used widely. Pepper spray, or oleoresin capsicum (OC), is also considered a riot control agent.
Originally posted by Atzil321
reply to post by Maxmars
combinedsystems.com...
.... it is not "Made in the USA."
www.nonlethaltechnologies.com...
These 'non lethal weapons' manufacturers/suppliers are both based in Pennsylvania USA.
Earlier reports indicated that the gas used was tear gas, but doctors who have been treating the wounded refuted that claim today.
"The material in this gas makes people convulse for hours. It paralyses them. They couldn't move at all. We tried to give them oxygen but it didn't work," said Amaar Nujaim, a field doctor who works for Islamic Relief.
Originally posted by JohnySeagull
I wonder is this to distract people from the fact that they are shooting dead people in egypt.
dozens have been killed this week.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
I'm not sure if this is related but Yemeni protesters have convulsed in the past from "tear gas" just like the claims from the Egyptian doctor in my OP. This doctor's testimony if true is still only speculation so it's too early to jump to any conclusions.
A nti-government protesters may have been hit with nerve gas, doctors say
Earlier reports indicated that the gas used was tear gas, but doctors who have been treating the wounded refuted that claim today.
"The material in this gas makes people convulse for hours. It paralyses them. They couldn't move at all. We tried to give them oxygen but it didn't work," said Amaar Nujaim, a field doctor who works for Islamic Relief.
I am behind schedule because I got jacked up by the police on the way home (I know off topic) so I haven't had the chance to research any of this yet. I'm wondering if the Yemeni tear gas is from the same source as the Egyptian tear gas. I'm not very knowledgeable about tear gas. Does anyone know if tear gas is supposed to cause you to convulse?
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Expat888
Thanks for the feedback
Here is a picture of the alleged canisters from the ABC link I posted on page one just in case anyone missed it.
Egyptian security forces are believed to be using a powerful incapacitating gas against civilian protesters in Tahrir Square following multiple cases of unconsciousness and epileptic-like convulsions among those exposed.
The Guardian has collected video footage as well as witness accounts from doctors and victims who have offered strong evidence that at least two other crowd control gases have been used on demonstrators in addition to CS gas.
Suspicion has fallen on two other agents: CN gas, which was the crowd control gas used by the US before CS was brought into use; and CR gas.
Some protesters report having seen canisters marked with the letters "CR" – although the Guardian has not been able to confirm this independently.
see where it is made? if not here look at this
Safety:
Poison by intraperitoneal and intravenous routes. Moderately toxic by ingestion and inhalation. Experimental teratogenic and reproductive effects. A human skin and eye irritant. Questionable carcinogen with experimental carcinogenic and tumorigenic data. When heated to decomposition it emits toxic fumes of NOx.Details
so much for the made in the USA
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CR
Dibenzoxazepine
Color Code: Violet
Agent State: Micro-Particulate Solid
Classification: Irritant
CR is a potent sensory irritant. CR is the parent compound of Loxapine Succinate, an Anti-Psychotic drug. CR is usually disseminated in a liquid solution with a propylene glycol base.
CR’s physical properties are similar to those of CS, but CR’s effects on the individual are more severe. In addition to affecting the eyes and respiratory tract, CR induces intense skin pain.
CR causes eye pain and excessive tearing. Slight edema to the eye lids may last for 2 to 6 hours. Skin pain and reddening are CR’s two main effects. Although burning sensation may last for 15 to 30 minutes, the reddening may persist for several hours. Areas of the skin previously exposed to CR may become painful again when exposed to water even after 24 hours or longer. CR, when entering the mouth, causes a burning sensation, excessive salivation, sore throat, and a mucous discharge from the nose.
Health Hazards of CR
CR appears to have a greater safety ratio than either CN or CS. However, CR is a relatively toxic agent and the mortal dose in a human subject is of the same order of magnitude as the other war gases. In a poorly ventilated environment an individual can inhale a fatal dose within minutes. Death results from asphyxiation associated with the development of pulmonary edema.
CR medical treatment is largely palliative (to lessen the severity without cure), and induces reassurance, removal of contaminated clothing, and washing of eyes and skin. Eye pain can be relieved with medications.
Due to CR’s persistent and long-term effect, presently very few liability conscious agencies use this agent.