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reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 03:09 PM by nv4711

reply to post by zorgon

Zorgon - thanks for throwing in the FOIA links and some nice pics to boot. I already had to heavily edit my post and only 2 characters to spare so I just had no space left for the source links.

BTW - whoever's interested: Willis George's book is still available, guess the modern spooks need some good reading too ;-) "Surreptitious Entry" by Willis George at Amazon...

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 03:57 PM by Blaine91555

Originally posted by EartOccupant
reply to post by Blaine91555

Hi,

Judging your story you will probably know this already, but here you go:

The Boy who invented television

Yes, I should not do this but, I'm related to him and while he was at BYU in his late life I lived near to him. Did not know him well but studied him as I got older and regret I did not spend more time with him, but I was a kid.

When I saw the list of names in the OP, light bulbs went on.

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 04:28 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by gabby2011

There is Wall of Light..

Read some of the reviews? Sheesh those Christian fanatics are a real pain

To anyone who may even consider for a SECOND that the same Arthur Matthews who wrote this book also was an evangelical christian... What on earth would an christian be doing even fathoming life on other planets, let alone writing about them? Know any evangelists who enjoy chatting about ANYTHING THAT DEFIES EXISTENCE OF GOD? Jeepers. Creepers.

amazon.com/Wall-Light-Nikola-Tesla-Venusian

Someone needs to remind them that the Vatican says its okay to believe in Aliens and they are ready to baptize them

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reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 05:39 PM by harlot7

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Zorgon - I did some searching and I think the magazine is called EDN, Electronics Design News. First published in 1956. I am thinking the John O'Neill book referenced has to be "Prodigal Genius".

Through online searches that cross referenced "Tesla/EDN Magazine Article/John Oneill-Prodigal Genius", I found many links that point to an article from the Aug-1972 edition of EDN titled, "Programmable ROM's offer a digital approach to waveform synthesis".

I have no clue if this is the right direction other than many people were searching for that same article in relation to the above keywords and it seems to have something to do with a wave synthesizer.

Does this make sense as it relates to any of Tesla's work or the conspiracies that surround him? I am far from engineer status but I love a good sleuthing mission.

I also found a webpage (again by searching the kewords above) that is way over my head but this is an excerpt and a link if anyone is interested.

Tesla stated that his telegeodynamic oscillator, so small it could be slipped into a pocket, could be attached to any part of the Empire State Building and in 12 to 13 minutes would bring the building to full resonance, and destroy it.

Scalar Electromagnetics - T.E. Bearden

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 05:49 PM by Phage

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Tesla had no "telegeodynamic oscillator". What he had was a steam powered reciprocating engine.
Here's the patent for it. He made a working model about 7 inches long.
www.google.com...

Tesla made a lot of claims about his inventions.

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reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 06:25 PM by nv4711

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by harlot7

Tesla had no "telegeodynamic oscillator". What he had was a steam powered reciprocating engine.
Here's the patent for it. He made a working model about 7 inches long.
www.google.com...

Tesla made a lot of claims about his inventions.

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All good...but somebody at the Air Force apparently thought there was something else.... Here's a memo from December 6, 1960, requesting access to Tesla's files for a Air Force research study on Geophysics:

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 06:36 PM by harlot7

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Just thinking out loud here...but you say that he didn't have a telegeodynamic oscillator. Is it because he didn't have the patent? Maybe he could have if he had more time. Just because he didn't have the patent doesn't mean he didn't bring about the ideas and principals to make it possible.

Although I believe it would have been an up-hill battle to patent some of the unusual inventions he presented.

I don't think the government would freely grant patents on concepts such as earthquake machines and free energy devices. That's some pretty hefty intellectual property and could make a person very powerful.

But why do you say it is claims with no merit? Are there concrete reasons for me to go "the other way" with Tesla and not believe the hype. Point me in the right direction to see both sides of the story....

I can honestly say that I have been intimidated by the Tesla stuff because I felt it was too much for me to comprehend. I'd like to start to try.

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 07:27 PM by Phage

reply to post by harlot7

He patented very many things, including his reciprocating engine which was the basis of his "telegeodynamic oscillator"
en.wikipedia.org...

His telegeodynamic oscillator, had he ever built it, would have been a scaled up version of his handy pocket sized one, a steam powered mechanical device.

Tesla's mechanical power transmission system, he dubbed it the "art of telegeodynamics," was based upon his Reciprocating Engine invention, U.S. Patent No. 514,169, February 6, 1894. The earthquake story also appeared in John O'Neill's biography of Tesla, Prodigal Genius. The account tells of Tesla causing a minor earth trembler in lower Manhattan, where he had established his laboratory, by clamping a small engine of this type to an I-beam and letting it find its own sympathetic resonance.

In the article "Nikola Tesla, Dreamer" (Allan L. Benson, World Today, Feb. 1912), an artist's illustration appears showing the entire earth cracking in half with the caption, "Tesla claims that in a few weeks he could set the earth's crust into such a state of vibration that it would rise and fall hundreds of feet and practically destroy civilization. A continuation of this process would, he says, eventually split the earth in two."

www.tfcbooks.com...

His idea was that his mechanical shaker could match the "resonant frequency" of earth. Pretty simple idea really but effective? Not really.

If you look at his actual inventions it's all pretty simple. Ingenious, but simple. The mark of a very good engineer.

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reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 08:06 PM by harlot7

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by harlot7

If you look at his actual inventions it's all pretty simple. Ingenious, but simple. The mark of a very good engineer.

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Having worked at the DuPont company early on in my career, I would say you are probably correct with that!

I think I can understand your position on Tesla a little better now too. I sometimes don't get when you drop a quick, concise response to a topic without stating your stance on the particular matter at hand, which is why I asked.

I still keep thinking "Jiggawatts" when I'm reading through the Tesla stuff, but whatever, I'll get there someday.

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 08:11 PM by Phage

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I sometimes don't get when you drop a quick, concise response to a topic without stating your stance on the particular matter at hand, which is why I asked.

Thanks. I think. I see conciseness as a plus. But I did, in my first post here say:

The problem was that Tesla was an engineer. A very good engineer, but his science was another story. He didn't really seem to understand electromagnetic radiation.

That's pretty much my stance. I think there is a lot of myth about the man.

reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 10:36 PM by theRiverGoddess

I LOVE THIS THREAD! loveLOVElove!!!

Its so great to read all the posts on a GOOD thread.............ATS has been lax for a while, with 'good topics'

*winks* @ Zorgie, Blainers & Phagie-wagie* (unabashedly flirting)

reply posted on 24-11-2011 @ 06:40 AM by Tahnya86

reply to post by nv4711

Tesla was a proebly the smartest person to live in my books, h had so many different inventions and ideas, i certainly believe he had some similar knowledge to ufo techknowlegy and anti gravity, and the wireless powerplant wa sa great one, his biggest invention would have been wardenclif tower, its a shame his selfish co worker thought about money instead of a benificial world wide invention and i Deffinanlty believe the millitary and NASA use his inventions now days, and they pass off some of them as there own, not something of teslas, HAARP deffinanlty is one of his worst inventions though, i only say that because the millitary has used it for pure evil, hence all the earthquakes and floods and stormes both fire and water based, he would be verry devistated to know what bad people are using his inventions for.

reply posted on 28-11-2011 @ 06:31 AM by draknoir2

Originally posted by dontlaughthink
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windmills..... if you want to talk about old tech what are you doing on a Tesla thread

It was a Futurama reference that I did not expect you to get... and my expectations were met.

reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 06:38 PM by TeslaandLyne

reply to post by zorgon

You have there the Jan 9
www.thelivingmoon.com...
and Jan 12
www.thelivingmoon.com...
FBI Memos on a mistake they thought Tesla was breathless.

First Tesla died on the 7th on the Jan 9th memo.
Then Tesla died on the 8th on the Jan 12th memo.

I think the 1% have settled on the 7th if we look on the net.
So we the 99% can shut up about the breathless Tesla.

The Tesla birth year goes from 1856 to 1858 on the net.
So why not the death be off a little.

The last 1940 Tesla announcements were too sensitive to the masses or 99% to hear.
And more than likely many followed Tesla as my Dad obviously did.
The Nazis perhaps, who were working on Tesla technology, and not America who
never spent a dime after the induction motor for the space motor were the worried
party and must have organized the Tesla raiding party.

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