OWS: ATS has your opinion changed?, page 2


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reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:20 PM by SLAYER69
Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by SLAYER69


Some of these could go either way. You should've asked them to declare a side.


Nope, this is an open discussion {Hopefully a civil one}



reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:31 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by woodwardjnr


I for one appreciate the opinions and perspectives presented by those from across the pond.

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reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:31 PM by DrNotforhire
Originally posted by CREAM
Originally posted by DrNotforhire
can't stand them more than I did when this started... I feel that things in the camps are covered up.... (you know oh the rapes)

also... the hypocrisy... Dont need to go into it

and...
Anon is acting like domestic terrorists.. THREATENING to bring down the wall street exchange (yeah that didn't happen)

just a bunch of followers following other followers...

doesn't work


"Anon is acting like domestic terrorists.. THREATENING to bring down the wall street exchange (yeah that didn't happen)"

I would like to point out to you, Anon was started as just concept about speaking out anonymously. You are literally participating in Anon by posting your opinion on the internet using a handle instead of your name and an avatar instead of your face.

The hacking operations are started by random people (like you and me, there is no hierarchy) who called for them by making up an operation idea, these operations have been carried out (or not if they lack support) mostly by the hacking groups AntiSec and Lulzsec. You can be Anon without participating in or even supporting these hacking operations. Just thought I would clear that up for ya...


Yeah but when they attach themselves to OWS (you know masks, SYMBOLISM) talking about bringing down certain aspects of what YOU are complaining about as the so called "99%" it makes them look like you are part of them... and in that... BOOM well you see where im going..


reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:33 PM by ModernAcademia
The truth is that there is so much to occupy
But OWS is way too disorganized and many of those opposing banks and wallstreet will vote for Obama when he was the biggest bailouter/supporter for corrupt banks and wallstreet.
Obama is not pro-wallstreet, Obama IS wallstreet

They'll vote for him anyhow
Of course not 100% but still just too many for this movement to be taken seriously

Understand this is not a partisan opinion, if it was Dennis Kuccinich I wouldn't have a completely different opinion I swear.

But they are only occupying the consequences of corruption not the root cause or the decision makers

Allow me to make a comparison

KFC makes chicken fast foods out of diseased chickens but protestors occupy customers not KFC or the FDA

Originally posted by SLAYER69
{I have to be honest} many of the Pro OWS supporters attitudes here are doing a great job of killing my potential support for and hope that OWS will eventually accomplish something tangible after it's all said and done.

There is too much truth in this

I see alot of people saying
"OWS is non-violent, you are only commenting on a few and paiting them with a broad brush"
then you show them a video and they say
"Ya so what? They SHOULD do exactly this, how long will they wait?"

Also in debates it's like why don't you care?
Of course i care I just immensely disagree with the approach.

All in all if they get organized and tackle correct issues and ensure that at very large majority of people educate themselves before protesting then I will support OWS Completely!


reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:35 PM by DrNotforhire
reply to post by ModernAcademia




The truth is that there is so much to occupy
But OWS is way too disorganized and many of those opposing banks and wallstreet will vote for Obama when he was the biggest bailouter/supporter for corrupt banks and wallstreet.
Obama is not pro-wallstreet, Obama IS wallstreet
The truth is that there is so much to occupy
But OWS is way too disorganized and many of those opposing banks and wallstreet will vote for Obama when he was the biggest bailouter/supporter for corrupt banks and wallstreet.
Obama is not pro-wallstreet, Obama IS wallstreet



yeah exactly... but they will bury their heads in the sand and be like "NO OBAMA IS THE MESSIAH!" like he still can't do wrong??? REALLY??? REALLY?! He is the reason you are protesting....

Great post.


reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 05:41 PM by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by OldCorp


This movement may not be perfect, but it's the best chance we've had in the last generation to effect some real change.


that pretty much sums it up for me

I have a feeling you and I might see a few things differently here and there OldCorp :-)

what I love about OWS is exactly this - that you and I can both see the potential in what's happening now

and this is the thing - it is inclusive - even if some people insist it's not

it's not perfect - but what is?

to the OP: no :-)

still feel the same...waiting for the other shoe to drop - that's about it

and, listen - for what's it's worth - it really isn't perfect - I know that - everybody knows that. I'm not easily disillusioned - I know what all comes with this sort of thing

but as OldCorp just suggested - this really is something

it will be interesting to see where it goes. Even if it ended today - it got a fair amount of people in this country (and the world) thinking - and talking to each other

It was worth it just for that
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