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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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We are interested, very interested in hearing ideas of how to move the monetary system and policy into a more socially acceptable aspect and how it can and should be changed but what we will not tolerate is every third or fourth line "Vote Ron Paul" or "Vote for Paul and he'll fix this mess!" that is known as spamming a board with Ron Paul talk.

The reason why we are not taking it seriously because Jan 01 2013 the Fed becomes nationalized. This is the reason why the nation isn't moving forward on a damn thing.




posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Either offer solutions instead of hacking that latest music album you're promoting. We are interested in only solutions that advance the agenda of the people of The USA and care not for any polarization of our nation that clearly doesn't work for anyone.

Freedom of speech is all fine and dandy and all but it does not give you or anyone right to start flipping out on people who disagree with you. Like we allow you time to speak you must allow us time to speak and to explain ourselves. IT IS A TWO WAY STREET! Just like you expect me to respect your speech you must be expected to respect mine. We both issue our points then by deleting political ideology work on making 2 points become one. Equal compromise, equal respect however if you are on one of our boards you are not directing the convo nor are you in final charge of the operation or maintenance of the websites as we do not care about the latest talking point that Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann is touting. We care about the future of the nation and where we all want to see the nation in 100 years time!

So wishing to ban corporate dollars out of politics to prevent our Govt from being bought and paid, to prevent people from losing a home over a job loss through no fault of their own, forcing people to choose between paying the light bill or the food bill,

This is not just another opinion but is a fact!
edit on 24-11-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Man I feel bad for people so indoctrinated. You clearly don't even know what half those words mean, good ole main stream media/politicians and their ridiculous fearmongering and misuse of words as catchphrases.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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i've been pondering the dilemma and here's what i've come up with so far:

although the form of socialism you suggest we need is infinitely more compassionate and helpful on its face, it requires the implementation of it to 1) declare war against your own people and kill them in mass numbers, 2) micromanage people's lives to the point of dictating what they believe about the afterlife or lack thereof and 3) steal the fruits of labor of the people for the greater good and then use it, as has been seen in the last 3 decades, to war against anyone that disagrees with it.

i don't know if people realize that a great many benefits available to our society are not being with held in the name of capitalism but because the particular form of socialism we are currently experiencing, only allows some people to be capitalists, and expects everyone else to be socialists. their stuff is private, yours is not. i believe that is deliberate, in order to coerce the people to scream for communism, cutting off any chance they have of ever being a free human being again



edit on 24-11-2011 by undo because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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That's funny to me because everyone else seems to get it?
Have you tried actually asking 200 protesters? I bet you would find that your statement is wrong.

Even rep. Deutch gets it. He proposed a constitutional amendment based on the wants of the Occupy protests.
How does he get it yet you do not?



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by cetaphobic
Alex isn't just a tool of his own insanity or paranoia. He's a tool of very power and very rich people, and half of what he says is an utter and complete lie.


Alex Jones is the biggest supporter of Ron Paul in the Media!

Isn’t Ron Paul a champion of everything OWS stands for??

BOY!!! You guys have a conflict of interest going on!!

Another sign of the lack of leadership within OWS I guess!



Do you even know what Ron Paul stands for???
Do you even know what OWS stands for???

I mean where do people get these ideas???
They are complete polar opposites...

This is why all the AJ, Ron Paul spamming is being stopped...
People keep trying to piggy back on the movement to the point that most people think there is no logical reason for the movement as you see two different pieces in favor of OWS with completely conflicting ideas.

Isn't one of Mr. Pauls biggest gripes is that he wants a free market???

Isn't one of OWS biggest gripes that they want MORE regulations because cooperation cannot be trusted to put humanity in front of a dollar???

Doesn't Mr. Paul want to end the Department of Education??? Doesn't this cause a geographical and financial divide in the level of education one is 'entitled' to recieve?
Isn't OWS all about EQUAL education for all???


Come to think of it, was OWS ever about 'end the fed'??? or was that more piggy backing on a movement???

The sad thing is, this movement probably would have already accomplished something if it wasn't for all the piggy backers...

Another question, what is it anyways that makes a OBGYN qualified to debate economics??? it is because he got paid good to feel women up?

I quietly support OWS fully. The only thing that I necessarily agree with Ron Paul on is to audit the Federal Reserve... It does need to be audited, but beyond that, I think the guy is an idiot with a good heart. A good heart, good intentions, does not mean that the end result of what you are doing is 'good'...

I mean he wants to go back to the gold standard.. We got rid of it for a reason... It is absolutely STUPID to ever have your money backed by a single resource...

IDK, I keep seeing OWS videos with people with Ron Paul signs and I'm like "really????, this isn't your movement, snip off"



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Great Post! However, it contradicts a lot of what I’ve heard from OWS’ers on ATS.

I don’t carry the water for OWS or Ron Paul, so you’ll have to take it up with your fellow OWS’ers.

I will say that your description of OWS is closer to what I thought it was.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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durrrr COINTELPRO ALERT

edit: to OP, that OWS website is Soros run
edit on 11/25/2011 by smarterthanyou because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by baphomet420

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by cetaphobic
Alex isn't just a tool of his own insanity or paranoia. He's a tool of very power and very rich people, and half of what he says is an utter and complete lie.


Alex Jones is the biggest supporter of Ron Paul in the Media!

Isn’t Ron Paul a champion of everything OWS stands for??

BOY!!! You guys have a conflict of interest going on!!

Another sign of the lack of leadership within OWS I guess!



Do you even know what Ron Paul stands for???
Do you even know what OWS stands for???

I mean where do people get these ideas???
They are complete polar opposites...

This is why all the AJ, Ron Paul spamming is being stopped...
People keep trying to piggy back on the movement to the point that most people think there is no logical reason for the movement as you see two different pieces in favor of OWS with completely conflicting ideas.

Isn't one of Mr. Pauls biggest gripes is that he wants a free market???

Isn't one of OWS biggest gripes that they want MORE regulations because cooperation cannot be trusted to put humanity in front of a dollar???

Doesn't Mr. Paul want to end the Department of Education??? Doesn't this cause a geographical and financial divide in the level of education one is 'entitled' to recieve?
Isn't OWS all about EQUAL education for all???


Come to think of it, was OWS ever about 'end the fed'??? or was that more piggy backing on a movement???

The sad thing is, this movement probably would have already accomplished something if it wasn't for all the piggy backers...

Another question, what is it anyways that makes a OBGYN qualified to debate economics??? it is because he got paid good to feel women up?

I quietly support OWS fully. The only thing that I necessarily agree with Ron Paul on is to audit the Federal Reserve... It does need to be audited, but beyond that, I think the guy is an idiot with a good heart. A good heart, good intentions, does not mean that the end result of what you are doing is 'good'...

I mean he wants to go back to the gold standard.. We got rid of it for a reason... It is absolutely STUPID to ever have your money backed by a single resource...

IDK, I keep seeing OWS videos with people with Ron Paul signs and I'm like "really????, this isn't your movement, snip off"


When a movement has no real defined goals then its so very easy for that movement to be taken over by sinister influences and guide it or usurp it once it starts to make waves or actually achieves something. Take the Obama presidential campaign, it never really had any defined goals except "Change", but once he was elected what really changed? Politics is a big damn lie anyway, none of us have a choice at all, we are just led to believe we do by a two party system that is our enslavement.
As for getting rid of gold backed currency, you got rid of it because they gave away all the gold, there is no reserves to back it on. You need to understand the nature of fiat(debt based) monetary systems and how the private bank called the federal reserve(not federal and has no reserves) takes your money(taxation) then gives it back to you with interest on top, keeps you in a state of perpetual financial slavery with no way of escaping, except ending the criminal enterprise which is what Ron Paul seeks to do.
But by the very nature of the western political system, I wonder that even if Ron Paul was made president if anything would change at all, because the president doesnt run the country, the corporate military industrial complex does. The president is just a public face for the satanic influence that dominates all our lives, the president is just the scapegoat that takes the flack.
Im starting to think this is all just another revolutionary movement being whipped up to bring in even more social slavery from the ashes of a so called revolution, just like every other "revolution" in the history of mankind.
Maybe we are so invested in a globalist system, with our dependency on others so ingrained that to regain self sufficiency would require a rewriting of the whole political/industrial system.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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THE OFFICIAL STANCE OF THE #OOCUPYEVERYTHING - OCCUPY TOGETHER - #OCCUPYWALLSTREET MOVEMENTS AND ALL ASSOCIATED MARCHES & OCCUPATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PLANET CURRENTLY :

This group wants absolutely nothing to do with the corrupt 2 party oligarchy as both have been bought and paid by the banks, The Federal Reserve and Wall Street and does not need nor require money from 1%'rs and to say anything otherwise is a major dis service to this group and movement as a whole as we see people like Soros as being apart of the problem and does not endorse millionaires or billionaires. No corporate dollars are welcomed and if one were to attempt to finance this movement it would be rejected and returned with a note saying "No sale!"!

To believe anything else means you are being seriously deceived and tricked and said source should not be trusted or taken seriously and if it does not come from the aforementioned it is not to be taken as the official stance. No General Assembly in any group throughout the planet will amend this ever!

STRONG EMPHASIS UPON THE FOLLOWING AND CANNOT BE EXPRESSED ENOUGH :
Unless it comes from Occupy Together, Occupy Everything, #Occupy Wall Street, NYC General Assembly or any of the countless official "Occupy" family of sites it does not speak for this movement and the movement will not endorse any site outside of our family of sites. Adbusters does not speak for us, Tides does not speak for us, no union speaks for us, The American Socialist Party does not speak for us, The Communist Party does not speak for us, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Biden, The Democratic National Committee, The Republican Nation Committee, The Tea Party, Libertarian movement or any other political party or figurehead does not speak for us and neither do they represent us! neither does any group that has decided to join us under their own free will and volition but even those groups and our partner firms do not speak for us! We speak for ourselves!

All are welcomed from all faiths, ethnic groups, political persuasions, LBGTI, animal and kid friendly as we will not discriminate, we will be friendly to all. Illicit narcotics (marijuana to meth while all scrips prescribed to a fellow protester are obviously allowed) and liquor (all forms) use are banned and will get someone expelled and turned over to law enforcement. Come as you are! Remember, there is no member of the 1% that is on this website which means we are all The 99%!

You were saying that Soros is funding the site as that lie has already been smacked down as it is false and to continually tout this is a lie!



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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How about no more capitalism, no more socialism and definately not communism but the rise of Americanism. No one has to go to war, no one has to die,

The problem with compassion is that any group who dares to be compassionate to another is automatically called or labeled as a socialist as that seems to be "the end all, be all response" which is dead up wrong. How about humanism?

Humanism is combo of socialism-capitalism-naitonalism!
edit on 25-11-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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I like AJ and I have learned a lot .... that said ...it is the INTERNET folks. I don't expect anyone to be 100 percent accurate however, AJ is right about the expanding police state. That coupled with the economy makes me wonder when and if what he speaks will come true.

On Y2K ... Personally I wasn't worried .....

yet, once I worked at a nuke plant for 18 months and one day we loaded boxes of low level rad waste onto a truck, The trucking company was Hittman Trucking out of Chicago, IL .... but in no way would I claim that the mob controls nuke waste industry......... frankly, I couldn't believe it myself ...... but thats what happened!



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by undo
 


How about no more capitalism, no more socialism and definately not communism but the rise of Americanism. No one has to go to war, no one has to die,

The problem with compassion is that any group who dares to be compassionate to another is automatically called or labeled as a socialist as that seems to be "the end all, be all response" which is dead up wrong. How about humanism?

Humanism is combo of socialism-capitalism-naitonalism!
edit on 25-11-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)


sounds like a plan but (and there's always a but), they can't dictate to other people what to believe, and that is outside the scope of most other forms of government. the rest of the universe probably already knows there are some forms of government that simply don't work because 1) they allow some people to not do anything at all (et al enslavement of those who do work), 2) they insist on dictating to you what you are allowed to think, even inside your own head, and what you are allowed to read, because it might effect what's going on inside your own head. and the main reason these are important lessons is the standard rule: if you don't want people to force their world view on you, don't try to force yours on them.

that's why i think the original idea was best: free speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, no taxation without representation, no income taxes, all are created equal, which does not mean that all have the same abilities, but all have the same opportunities to succeed. capitalism works when not being sabotaged because it offers an incentive to be continually improving yourself and your environment, understanding of science and medicine, etc.

anything else is a pretender to the throne of humanity

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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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here's an example: a really cool idea however, he has to force "no religion" into the middle of it. no freedom of religion and of the press, stamped in big blaring letters all over it. (he doesn't mention a world without religion in this video, but he does in others)


now let's say your life here is a preparatory course for your life afterwards and that the way you view the rights and freedoms of others is just as important as your compassion for their well being. if you decide only some people deserve to have rights and freedoms based on their world view, your compassion goes zipping off into the nothing.
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Then why would they put bail money in a major bank? Why do they want to trademarkOWSl?

Blah, blah, blah. OWS is just a ruse, get an F'ing job, pay your college bills, like the rest of us.

OWS = Obama Wanting Security.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Ales Jones, just like Glen Beck are speakers of what they feel is coming, puppets or not. But wouldn't you like the hard questions to be asked. I will give AJ credit on the questions when going to NY and BG, and Austin.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
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WRONG!!!
Scare em all Al has been profiting off of our fears and panic for years you mean.
Scare em all Al is a tool for the PTB.
Can't wait till his budget gets cut.


lol
fess up now
for how much did AJ soak you?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by OneManArmy
 


Either offer solutions instead of hacking that latest music album you're promoting. We are interested in only solutions that advance the agenda of the people of The USA and care not for any polarization of our nation that clearly doesn't work for anyone.

Freedom of speech is all fine and dandy and all but it does not give you or anyone right to start flipping out on people who disagree with you. Like we allow you time to speak you must allow us time to speak and to explain ourselves. IT IS A TWO WAY STREET! Just like you expect me to respect your speech you must be expected to respect mine. We both issue our points then by deleting political ideology work on making 2 points become one. Equal compromise, equal respect however if you are on one of our boards you are not directing the convo nor are you in final charge of the operation or maintenance of the websites as we do not care about the latest talking point that Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann is touting. We care about the future of the nation and where we all want to see the nation in 100 years time!

So wishing to ban corporate dollars out of politics to prevent our Govt from being bought and paid, to prevent people from losing a home over a job loss through no fault of their own, forcing people to choose between paying the light bill or the food bill,

This is not just another opinion but is a fact!
edit on 24-11-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)


WTF? Why is that directed at me? Music Album? Flipping out on people that disagree with me?
You must be thinking of someone else? Im just expressing my opinion like you are yours.
What you should be fighting for is what you already have.... "The Constitution" and "The Bill Of Rights". Corporations need to be stripped of the "person" title, the constitution doesnt apply to them.
The constitution needs to be raised back to what it once was, before it was destroyed by things like the Patriot Act. The constitution needs to be reinforced. And highly valued for what it is.
The fed needs to be disbanded and a real federal public sector controlled bank system to replace it. All debt to the illegal banking cartel needs to be written off for it was fraudulently gained.
How about that for some goals.
edit on 25-11-2011 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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your answer is here:



OccupyWallSt.org bills itself as “the unofficial de facto online resource for the growing occupation movement


why not investigate and if necessary out whoever set up this website as it seems to be giving ammunition to the Anti-OWS reactionaries
what with it's hypocritical censoring of free speech.

AJ and DI are fascists? by what psychotic projection is such a statement even utterable?

as for the regular haters: get a clue AJ and DI did not "get a job" as so many slaveys [and slavedrivers] here rant about they created their own.
y'all are just jealous
cause nobody bosses them around [especially not some of you]
something many screaming "dirty hippies and commies" CAN NOT claim for themselves

EDIT TO ADD: seabag, you've been ragging on OWS since the start now that OWS seems to be going the way of the teaparty: same dirty tactics and accusations and finally coopted by TCOTBIP

are you happy now?


edit on 25-11-2011 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by buddha
Alex Jones or David Icke are just a game show!
they dont belive what they do.
Dont be suckerd in by them.



lol the man whose title you're posting under
taught that there are no gods or buddhas and to not even believe in him.

so why should we believe the above statement of yours?






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