OWS Website Bans Alex Jones

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

The fundamental difference is that our members aren't peddling their latest dvd or t-shirt but are peddling the movement, Jones only looks out for and cares for Jones himself.

Id rather have people peddling their merchandise than peddling their evil ideaologies.
And I would also start by issuing warnings or removing posts that offend the site terms and conditions, I wouldnt go around banning members whose views I disagree with and still spout freedom of speech, one of the fundamental cornerstones of freedom. Thats just hypocrisy that loses my support for a whole movement. Because then I doubt its integrity and true intentions.

reply to post by OneManArmy


It boggles my mind when they say they don’t want AJ or David Icke peddling their books or agendas at OWS when the entire OWS MOVEMENT IS PEOPLE PEDDLING DIFFERENT AGENDAS with few common goals! That’s what the whole movement IS ABOUT, at least from what I’ve seen!

Alex Jones =

Communism =

Maxists =

David Icke =

NAZI Party =

The inconsistencies are obvious and numerous! Which begs the question, why is it OK for OWS to pick and choose who they will allow when they claim to be the 99%?

Bunch of HIPPIE-CRITES if you ask me!

ooo Hippie-crits I like that!!!!

Thats an amazing thing you have there.. and its completely true... its hypocritically to the max

I think it's time the Ron Paul "End the Fed" crowd break away from the OWS movement and create their own separate movement. It's crystal clear to me that OWS doesn't want to hear about Ron Paul. Hell, they even change Paul to "Pawl" when his name is mentioned. WTF?

I say let the OWS people keep chanting for wealth re-distribution and free hand-outs while the big boys actually try to get something done at the REAL root of the corruption in this country.

Originally posted by Wookiep
I think it's time the Ron Paul "End the Fed" crowd break away from the OWS movement and create their own separate movement. It's crystal clear to me that OWS doesn't want to hear about Ron Paul. Hell, they even change Paul to "Pawl" when his name is mentioned. WTF?

I say let the OWS people keep chanting for wealth re-distribution and free hand-outs while the big boys actually try to get something done at the REAL root of the corruption in this country.

edit on 23-11-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)

I actually went to End The Fed in Dallas a few weeks ago (2 days then it dried up). The OWS crowd wanted nothing to do with us (and vice versa). They were pissed when they heard Alex on his bullhorn.

Yeah, I never really was behind OWS exactly because of that. They’re not organized and they’re not going after the right groups. It’s devolved into a group of miscreants as of late anyway. Now they're picking and chosing who they let in too? NAH!!

reply to post by seabag


Blah.. I guess I'll give up talking to you since you refuse to educate yourself with the info given to you over and over again.

OWS is not pro socialism/marxism etc. They ban Alex Jones info because he is a hoaxer and pushes disinfo and conspiracy and that has no business being involved in the movement. David Icke is the same, but maybe even crazier. Anyone with common sense would assume that Alex Jones and infowars are being spammed on OWS boards or they wouldn't feel the need to address it. Same with politicians.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


First and Foremost Ron Paul is a member of The US House Of Representative's representing Texas' 14th District so that is direct misinformation, cheque your source again as his son is the Senator.

If memory serves me correctly and in this case it does you've tried in like at least 20 other threads to connect The SCUM to this movement and each and everytime I shoot you down and have done so yet again, once again cheque your sources.

Ron Paul has been a member of Congress yet look at his voting record, always in lockstep with the GOP and The SCUM on each and every single item but The Federal Reserve, that is the only credit he can be given.

Reread this at least 15 times before you hit the reply button because you are so misdirected it's not even funny :

HE OFFICIAL STANCE OF THE #OOCUPYEVERYTHING - OCCUPY TOGETHER - #OCCUPYWALLSTREET MOVEMENTS AND ALL ASSOCIATED MARCHES & OCCUPATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PLANET CURRENTLY :

This group wants absolutely nothing to do with the corrupt 2 party oligarchy as both have been bought and paid by the banks, The Federal Reserve and Wall Street and does not need nor require money from 1%'rs and to say anything otherwise is a major dis service to this group and movement as a whole as we see people like Soros as being apart of the problem and does not endorse millionaires or billionaires. No corporate dollars are welcomed and if one were to attempt to finance this movement it would be rejected and returned with a note saying "No sale!"!

To believe anything else means you are being seriously deceived and tricked and said source should not be trusted or taken seriously and if it does not come from the aforementioned it is not to be taken as the official stance. No General Assembly in any group throughout the planet will amend this ever!

STRONG EMPHASIS UPON THE FOLLOWING AND CANNOT BE EXPRESSED ENOUGH :
Unless it comes from Occupy Together, Occupy Everything, #Occupy Wall Street, NYC General Assembly or any of the countless official "Occupy" family of sites it does not speak for this movement and the movement will not endorse any site outside of our family of sites. Adbusters does not speak for us, Tides does not speak for us, no union speaks for us, The American Socialist Party does not speak for us, The Communist Party does not speak for us, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Biden, The Democratic National Committee, The Republican Nation Committee, The Tea Party, Libertarian movement or any other political party or figurehead does not speak for us and neither do they represent us! neither does any group that has decided to join us under their own free will and volition but even those groups and our partner firms do not speak for us! We speak for ourselves!

All are welcomed from all faiths, ethnic groups, political persuasions, LBGTI, animal and kid friendly as we will not discriminate, we will be friendly to all. Illicit narcotics (marijuana to meth while all scrips prescribed to a fellow protester are obviously allowed) and liquor (all forms) use are banned and will get someone expelled and turned over to law enforcement. Come as you are! Remember, there is no member of the 1% that is on this website which means we are all The 99%! .

Just because the date happened to change does not make what you say somehow and miraculously right as you were wrong then and continue to remain dead up wrong now.

reply to post by OneManArmy


That is what they did, started to issue warnings and when they were repeatedly ignored further action became necessary and the hammer unfortunately had to come down on a couple of people as we are not a Ron Paul nor are we an Alex Jones affiliated, endorsed, contracted, subcontracted, licensed venue nor are we a mouthpiece for either.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by seabag

 

Blah.. I guess I'll give up talking to you since you refuse to educate yourself with the info given to you over and over again.

OWS is not pro socialism/marxism etc. They ban Alex Jones info because he is a hoaxer and pushes disinfo and conspiracy and that has no business being involved in the movement. David Icke is the same, but maybe even crazier. Anyone with common sense would assume that Alex Jones and infowars are being spammed on OWS boards or they wouldn't feel the need to address it. Same with politicians.

If you ask 200 OWS’ers what the movement means you get 200 different answers!!

I’m sorry but I cannot believe the info you keep telling me when I see and hear contradictory evidence every day. The info you provide is what YOU are protesting. Not everyone there believes what you believe, bro! This thing is comprised of dozens (if not hundreds) of groups with different beliefs and agendas. Yours it but one!

You’re the one who doesn’t get it. Sorry to break it to you!

EDIT** By the way…a lot of what you have shared with me I agree with (if I remember correctly). The problem is MANY within OWS don’t see it that way. It is a vehicle for everybody’s agenda. I’m not down with that.

reply to post by seabag


200 individual opinions eventually becomes 1!

reply to post by Wookiep


Maybe if Paulites (seperate from RP supporters) didn't spam the forum 24/7 with vote Ron Paul there would be a different reaction. I have read the arguments in threads by Paulites on OWS. You can tell them 50 times in one sentence or from 50 different supporters that ending the fed is a good idea and they still argue with you as if you told them it was a stupid idea. People should notice the difference in tone when talking to a true supporter of Ron Paul as long as they don't bring election material to the convo.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Wookiep

 

Maybe if Paulites (seperate from RP supporters) didn't spam the forum 24/7 with vote Ron Paul there would be a different reaction. I have read the arguments in threads by Paulites on OWS. You can tell them 50 times in one sentence or from 50 different supporters that ending the fed is a good idea and they still argue with you as if you told them it was a stupid idea. People should notice the difference in tone when talking to a true supporter of Ron Paul as long as they don't bring election material to the convo.

Says you..Hey, I'm not trying to be insulting or overly offensive BUT... I have yet to see one OWSer who isn't clearly supporting Ron Paul get serious in speaking out about ending the Federal Reserve as a serious demand. It should be THE #1 demand. The fact is, we have two separate movements happening, and so far they have been merged in to OWS. OWS (for clarity, the NON Paul "End the Fed" supporters which seems to be the majority) wants nothing to do with Ron Paul and has NOT made ending the Federal Reserve a sticking point.

I'm assuming a "Paulite" is a Paul supporter who spams on the boards etc. OWS in ITSELF is a SPAM operation to get the message out to everyone. You're telling me they don't chant the same repetitive things all day in the parks? It's absolutely offensive to refer to them as "Paulites" especially when they are trying to support this movement, AND it's equally offensive and dis-respectful to Ron Paul for the OWS website to filter Ron Paul to Ron "Pawl". "Paulites" and/or Ron Paul supporters have no place in OWS whatsoever, period IMHO.

reply to post by Wookiep


They aren't supporting it and that's the point. They are spamming vote ron paul constantly, or were. No interest in discussion whatsoever.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Wookiep

 

They aren't supporting it and that's the point. They are spamming vote ron paul constantly, or were. No interest in discussion whatsoever.

Here let me spam it on ATS: "Vote Ron Paul 2012!" W00t, I'm a "Paulite" now! lol.

But seriously, OWS is not interested in serious discussion about ending the Federal Reserve. Show me some substantial footage/discussion from an OWS (not a Ron Paul supporter or "Paulite") supporter on ending the Federal Reserve as a serious demand and I might think about changing my position on OWS. Otherwise, there really is no sense in denying the fact that Paul supporters should get the hell out of OWS and start their own movement.

reply to post by j2000


Ha your asking me to get a clue when you measure time by ATS....

But thats fine you support Jones....doesnt make him accurate or truthful. But you talk about the MSM spewing garbage....what does Jones do. He finds MSM articles and then puts his own sense of paranoia and fear mongering on it. Sometimes he finds some inside sources, or so he claims. but most of his sources either tell him things that anyone could tell you, like today is thursday, or they are things that never happen. And you dont care if he is wrong? So your admitting that he is inaccurate but you still support him. Thats like saying I dont care if the police arrest innocent people as long as they stop littering or I dont care that my doctor has a 90 percent misdiagnosis rate he gives presents to sick kids. The elites are corrupt??? you dont say??? what did we do before AJ....no one knew about corruption.

Originally posted by Swim2themoon
What is OWS trying to sell to you?

that timing of these protests is not important. for instance.
and that if you criticise the ows movement, something must
be wrong with you. because ows is against corporations.
which is a good cause, therefore, they can't be criticised.

same goes for i dunno, naomi klein. she can talk for hours
about teh shock doctrine and how the system is #ing everyone
every day for all of their insignificant lives, but aks her about
9/11 and see what happens.

see?
TPTB, or any other large group of people, always treat populus
as if they were a bunch of 5yr olds. not allowing criticism and
labeling people as "haters" for criticising reminds me of such a
treatment.

but then again, i could be wrong. the fake arab spring was not
just a test run. and saddam had wmds and 19 boxcutters can
defeat the whole of the us defense system and piers morgan
is actually a swell guy.

handsome too.
yeah.
wrong.

cheers.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Wookiep

 

They aren't supporting it and that's the point. They are spamming vote ron paul constantly, or were. No interest in discussion whatsoever.

that could be a cop-out by the ows.
if could be very well be that ows doesn't want to be aligned with paul
because "they are liberals and you can't have a liberal voting or promoting
a conservative or vice versa".

jeez louise, that would be just wrong.
if you think this is all lies, go to ows, and start talking i dunno.
about 9/11. ron paul. end the fed. see how far that will get you
with the crowd who organized it. and yes. there is a hierarchy within
the ows movement. you'd have to be pretty stupid to think otherwise.

Originally posted by psyop911 and piers morgan
is actually a swell guy.

handsome too.
yeah.
wrong.

cheers.

I lolled, Im so glad we got rid of that arrogant a$$hole, the only important thing in his world is him, he truly is a scumbag. He was once an editor for one of our sensationalist tabloids, the one that no longer exists because of its illegal activities in phone hacking. Not saying he had anything to do with it, but hes of that ilk.

reply to post by Wookiep


Occupythefed

Occupythefednow

occupythefedny c

Occupy Boston which I have been to is located at the Federal Reserve in Boston.

I can't post from OWS Forums but there's threads there about end the fed. I find it odd that you can't find substantial support of ending the fed among occupiers, it's pretty rampant.

reply to post by romanmel


of course he tells lies, you do too. Who doesn't