OWS Website Bans Alex Jones

Alex Jones and OWS both have it wrong.... they're bringing only problems and no solutions!


Until the people get to decide their own laws, en masse, then nothing fundamental about the system will ever change.

To disagree with this notion is to abandon all faith in the human race.

I really don't think that this thread deserves so many flags. It's not a big deal people.

Originally posted by swoopaloop
I really don't think that this thread deserves so many flags. It's not a big deal people.

I think people flagged it so they realize what they are supporting and are now not supporting it?

just a hunch

Originally posted by squidboy
After seeing it first hand, I'm starting to believe that since the Occupy crowd is growing so large, that they have to start limiting viewpoints that would actually start addressing real issue. When Occupy initially started, livestream was the only forum to actively discuss with other 99/occupy members the movement. Like I've said in many other threads, they limited to discussion of politics to only include Leftist/ Socialist/ Communist thought. Obama support was okay. Socialist Democrats were okay, but anything else was banned.

It's why Ron Paul supporters aren't allowed within Occupy. It's why end the fed isn't allowed into discussion. It's why a Tea Party vs. OWS was fully embraced by it's supporters (on television, they literally had a Tea Party rep and a Occupy rep and they argued about nothing more then "I'm better then you, you're wrong."

They limit the views, because other viewpoints (like Jones) make members want to further question the "reality of things." If enough Occupy members learned what was going on, they would realize a) camping in a park in NYC was useless and b) move their occupy (in mass) to DC.

edit on 21-11-2011 by squidboy because: (no reason given)

I agree with you.

At the end of the day, the truth is either: the Occupy Movement is afraid of being linked to 'crazy Conspiracy Theorists' or it is being controlled by the Communists/Socialists/Liberals Pro-New World Order network who don't want the masses organising themselves into one single Movement - and it's probably the latter.

I remember feeling a little worried when Nigel Farage MEP (English Member of European Parliament) agreed to be interviewed by Alex Jones incase it destroyed his reputation in the eyes of all those British who understand there is an obvious problem in politics today yet are utterly dismissive of the 'crazy Conspiracy Theorist' bandwagon. Reputation is paramount thesedays...

Clearly they are taking away our confidence in exactly who to believe. Can we trust AJ? Can we trust Nigel Farage or Ron Paul?? Are they really trying to fight for us or are they just making us angry to push another Soros-funded revolution? We don't know. What we should remember is that this Cabal has been operating since before we were even born, they choose their own enemies in order to control and defeat them and they like to mix the truth with lies to confuse us.

So I wonder why haven't the likes of Alex Jones or Ron Paul died in a car or plane "accident" yet as is the normal case?

From an objective point of view, I admit that I think they are amazingly clever at these mind-games. From a subjective viewpoint, their actions sicken me. It's like a husband cheating on his wife - he thinks he's so clever at getting away with it but at the end of the day, his wife is the better person for being innocent and trusting.

How can we fight this? How can we organise ourselves into one single like-minded force??

I think it's impossible unless we find ourselves a 'Spartacus' who we can all trust - and who can expose a certain issue that is banned from nearly every website including ATS.

who can expose a certain issue that is banned from nearly every website including ATS.

reply to post by rottensociety


what issue is that? another thing you might want to consider is, removing wealth from one guy, who is friends with 100 other guys, may just result in the other 100 guys, giving most of it right back to him and no one would be the wiser. these guys don't butter each other's toast for no reason at all. there must be some fellowship there, and if so, it's not likely that people who have been exceedingly wealthy and powerful for hundreds of years, would ever truly lose that. think of all the markers they could call in. people need to think past their prejudices as well. alot of the big wigs of the planet are on the same page, which means everything that manages to gain traction is likely orchestrated by somebody they control. can't have a global network and not be an exceedingly good chess player.

reply to post by FissionSurplus


I would agree. Is OWS not a conspiracy at its roots. Look at their list of demands. I am sure that some of them fall in the view of Jones and Icke, etc.

OWS IMO is a bunch of rich college kids on a early spring break! LOL that will get you all fired up. But really complain all they want, go get an f'ing job, that is not what you went to school for b/c they probably don't exist. Lets blame everyone else for YOU taking a student loan, on some BS degree that don't mean sh!t.. I have thoughts of Van Wilder now.

Originally posted by undo

who can expose a certain issue that is banned from nearly every website including ATS.

reply to post by rottensociety

 

what issue is that?

Maybe the satanic ritual abuse of children?
Or high level paedophilia? I havent seen any of that here yet, but Im still new so could so easily have missed it.

Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by undo

who can expose a certain issue that is banned from nearly every website including ATS.

reply to post by rottensociety

 

what issue is that?

Maybe the satanic ritual abuse of children?
Or high level paedophilia? I havent seen any of that here yet, but Im still new so could so easily have missed it.

no, that's been discussed at length here. think it must be something else.
trying to get him to say what though

reply to post by seabag


Wonderful, that adds to their credibility. Since when is the participation of liars and frauds helpful to anyone. Their credibility just went up a notch. Now if they get rid of the Obama supporters who are using it as part of Obama's campaign. Being in bed with Obama is about as phony as they can get, just like being in bed with those on your list. Same thing from different sides.

reply to post by seabag


We are the 99%. We have no political or religious agenda. We Occupy OUR LAND in hopes of stopping corporate greed and corruption! PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE!

We are the 99%. We have no political or religious agenda. We Occupy OUR LAND in hopes of stopping corporate greed and corruption! PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE!

reply to post by seabag


Here is my assessment. OWS wants to be taken seriously. OWS wants to be acknowledged as a realistic approach. They don't want to be aligned or associated with these people who by most are considered nut jobs (Not my opinion personally). It takes away any validity and seriousness that OWS strives to represent.

OWS struggles to be treated fairly and seriously as it is. I can't blame them at all. Not to mention that Alex Jones loves to steal thunder and push himself and his show and content through any means available to him. This is probably not something the OWS movement wants.

Just an opinion and I could be wrong but just a thought. If I were a person in a serious movement. I would not want my name associated with any of the mentioned people. It depreciates the seriousness that one wants others to take.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by cetaphobic

 

First off i am not your "Sweethart" second off what part of Free Speech are people missing?

Must be the part you have yet to make up for us. What does this have to do with free speech? You would never be allowed in my home, let alone allowed to talk inside my home. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

Please, oh please Neo. School me. Explain how this has anything to do with free speech. You already lied 2 times in this thread though so tread lightly this time, k?

Originally posted by seenavv
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Censorship much? I am still for the movement but this is pretty ridiculous imo

This is the problem with people like you.

You all were warned and were shown what this movement is really about, yet people like you decided to support it, just like the Obama fans blindly voted for him and believed every empty promise he made...

You were all shown this movement was started, it is organized and funded by leftwing groups who are part of the New World Socialist Order regime.

You were shown that people like Soros have ties directly to this movement, yet people like you STILL want to support it...

Where do you think all the FREE FOOD being served at these ralllies comes from, and how is it paid?... It is paid with taxpayer dollars which has been laundered by the same leftwing groups that funded this movement, and this laundered money is the funds they get from the government which is paid for by the taxpayers...

Don't you understand that for DECADES similar "people's movements" were USED by socialists/communists? At the end what the people who supported these "worker's unite" movements accepted openly socialism/communism, even though most were not true socialists or communists. But just by supporting the "worker's unite movement" and rallying with them people opened the door for socialist/communist dictatprships.

You have been shown that the main logos of this movement are SOCIALIST/COMMUNISTS LOGOS, yet you all claimed this was not so.

Look at how they are censoring ANYTHING that they don't like, and they even call it "fascism" to anything they don't like or want within their movement... This is EXACTLY how socialist/communist movements, and people, have acted in the past, and how they would call ANYONE who does not agree with their socialist/communist agenda...

You were warned, yet people like you still want to support the movement...

Originally posted by DrNotforhire

Originally posted by swoopaloop
I really don't think that this thread deserves so many flags. It's not a big deal people.

I think people flagged it so they realize what they are supporting and are now not supporting it?

just a hunch

So a website convinces them to not follow a movement that clearly is actually doing something about the corrupt society? That's like me not supporting conspiracies just because ATS doesn't allow drug talk

reply to post by TheOneElectric

I don't know about you, but when it comes to Alex Jones remember he called 911 BEFORE it happened and also named the government patsy, OBL.

He was one of the first, if not the first to call 911 an "Inside Job," and he paid dearly for it losing most of his stations.

If you think a guy defending the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution is loony, please get out of my country. You don't belong here. You are apart of the problem and not part of the solution.

Now I might not agree with everything Alex says, but I will defend to the death his right to say it. Because at the end of the day, if you don't let people whom you disagree with speak, you don't believe in freedom of speech at all. This makes you an enemy of liberty, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and un-American.

OWS just lost all credibility with this crap. Not one bankster is in jail. Not one thing has changed.

Soros is the suspect ghost financier behind the operation, and polls state half the members are Obama supporters/future voters. This is a bitter pill to swallow.

OWS lost it. If they can't respect freedom of speech, they don't have a clue or a snowball's chance in hell of making a difference.

Lets be REAL, regardless of if you think AJ shills or not, he is doing his part to open eyes. What ARE YOU DOING?????? Bickering on an internet forum that most people regard as crazy????

LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE....

Even if you don't believe in God the message is STILL valid, none of us are perfect...

Maybe Jones is an insider - but he is doing a great job getting people TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. So what that he makes $$$$ from his work. I bought the heirloom seeds advertised on his site, NOT TO SUPPORT HIM, but because of the Monsanto BS, and the FACT that my seeds will be worth more than gold when our nation falls. Plus I want to FEED myself (and yes I got into farming)

Its so easy to discredit people because you don't agree with them 100%, this is so @ss-backwards. Look at EVERYTHING, ingest IT ALL, look at right, left, and fringe news sites. Just don't turn off one source because you don't like them (I hate most of what HuffPost says but I still look at it daily to get a picture of both sides).

WAKE UP FRIENDS, so many on here claim not to be sheep but still follow blindly.

On-topic of OWS's website: They have every right to ban whatever they want ON THEIR SITE, as its THEIR property. However I ask they respect others private property (even foreclosed homes) with this same notion.

reply to post by cetaphobic


The Catholic Church is a very bad analogy for freedom of speech. These cats would burn you at the stake for just a slight slip of the tongue.

This movement is starting to look like a set up for marshal law. People won't stand for innocents being beaten and pepper sprayed for long. Violence is going to erupt, and this is the main goal of the OWS movement. When that happens the 99%'ers lose. More excuses for illegal searches, more assaults on the Bill of Rights, more police, more jails, more cops, more judges...hummm just what the military, industrial, prison, intelligence, drug running, gun running, banksters want.

Originally posted by Ghost375
Any day now, they're going to install martial law(6 years ago).

In less than a year from now, we will attack Iran. I know this as absolute fact. (2 years ago).

OWS is a bunch of crybabies and they get what's coming to them(1 week ago).

OMG, the cops pepper sprayed protesters, we must stop this outrageous behavior and protest the police state. (Yesterday)

Need I go on?

I'd ban him too.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Ghost375 because: (no reason given)

yeah i noticed the tendency as well but i think there's a reason for this. some of his info is spot on but on a delay switch. in other words, he's right but his timing is off. i think someone is feeding him info, and it is accurate, but not accurately timed. i have no idea what that means.

reply to post by L00kingGlass


Let's post this for the hundereth time shall we since no one seems to understand it :

THE OFFICIAL STANCE OF THE #OOCUPYEVERYTHING - OCCUPY TOGETHER - #OCCUPYWALLSTREET MOVEMENTS AND ALL ASSOCIATED MARCHES & OCCUPATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PLANET CURRENTLY :

This group wants absolutely nothing to do with the corrupt 2 party oligarchy as both have been bought and paid by the banks, The Federal Reserve and Wall Street and does not need nor require money from 1%'rs and to say anything otherwise is a major dis service to this group and movement as a whole as we see people like Soros as being apart of the problem and does not endorse millionaires or billionaires. No corporate dollars are welcomed and if one were to attempt to finance this movement it would be rejected and returned with a note saying "No sale!"!

To believe anything else means you are being seriously deceived and tricked and said source should not be trusted or taken seriously and if it does not come from the aforementioned it is not to be taken as the official stance. No General Assembly in any group throughout the planet will amend this ever!

STRONG EMPHASIS UPON THE FOLLOWING AND CANNOT BE EXPRESSED ENOUGH :
Unless it comes from Occupy Together, Occupy Everything, #Occupy Wall Street, NYC General Assembly or any of the countless official "Occupy" family of sites it does not speak for this movement and the movement will not endorse any site outside of our family of sites. Adbusters does not speak for us, Tides does not speak for us, no union speaks for us, The American Socialist Party does not speak for us, The Communist Party does not speak for us, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Biden, The Democratic National Committee, The Republican Nation Committee, The Tea Party, Libertarian movement or any other political party or figurehead does not speak for us and neither do they represent us! neither does any group that has decided to join us under their own free will and volition but even those groups and our partner firms do not speak for us! We speak for ourselves!

All are welcomed from all faiths, ethnic groups, political persuasions, LBGTI, animal and kid friendly as we will not discriminate, we will be friendly to all. Illicit narcotics (marijuana to meth while all scrips prescribed to a fellow protester are obviously allowed) and liquor (all forms) use are banned and will get someone expelled and turned over to law enforcement. Come as you are! Remember, there is no member of the 1% that is on this website which means we are all The 99%!