At what point do you leave?

You leave when you know an unsurvivable circumstance will soon occur.

Originally posted by moondancer811
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

Are there strict gun laws in the UK?
Yeah, no way I'd stick around in an institution with the violent people without fire arms (and strong men)...actually, there's no way I'd walk around without firearms if the shtf anyway!

Yup very strict, I know people with a shotgun and they have to go thru a lot of check's.
But maybe its a good thing if SHTF cos we won't have any guns I would just use harsh language I suppose (I know some great swear words lol)
Oh and you don't have to be strong to be able to restrain someone, I saw a 5 foot 95lb girl take down a 6'5 300lb guy (Hooray for our training )
heres a link www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk...

reply to post by boymonkey74


Oh wow, those are some strict gun laws! Here's ours in NH, to help put it in perspective. You'll laugh, there really are not any.

edit- I'm a wimp. I'd need a lot of training to be able to protect myself against a big guy.
pgnh.org...

reply to post by moondancer811

Wow laughed at this bit


Q: What do I have to do to buy a gun in New Hampshire?

A: Go to a gun store, a gun show, or a private party selling a gun, and give them money

lol
No offense but I do find it weird and one day when I grace the US with my presence lol I would be a little afraid if I thought that anyone could have a gun.
But if SHTF yeah I wouldn't mind a gun.

reply to post by boymonkey74


Well, those gun laws are only for my state, which is New Hampshire. Other states have gun laws as strict as yours.

I must say though, there's not much crime by firearms up here. Mostly hunters and people carrying for self defence. At this time of year (it's hunting season) people openly walk around with guns and it's not very scary.

Thank's for the great conversation! S&F for being interesting.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by moondancer811

 

No offense but I do find it weird and one day when I grace the US with my presence lol

I would be a little afraid if I thought that anyone could have a gun.
But if SHTF yeah I wouldn't mind a gun.

edit on 22-11-2011 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

Come on over and check it out, it is not as bad as you may think. The majority of the time someone could be standing right next to you with a gun and you would never know. You may even have a nice conversation with the person. I assure you, the criminals are not the only ones with guns in the US.

Originally posted by moondancer811
reply to post by shushu

 

Slightly off topic, but wasn't there an episode (or was it a movie?) on the Walking Dead where people did lock themselves in and take care of the elderly? It was actually a very good example, and realistic, to the OPs question. This gang was armed to the max and defended and took care of these people. It's worth watching for perspective I guess.

edit on 22-11-2011 by moondancer811 because: (no reason given)

Yeah, the Walking Dead had one of these episodes when they are in Atlanta... The difference, though, is that they had a whole group of people who stayed, not just one nursing assistant. And, they were taking care of the elderly (yes, some probably with dementia or alzheimers), not psychotic people.

OP is specifically talking about mental health patients, some of which are potentially there under false pretenses and being perhaps the last caretaker on the grounds.

Either way, it comes down to personal choice.

BTW, OP is right, it doesn't matter how big you are, you can take down pretty much anyone if you know the proper techniques. I (average sized female) have done restraints/takedowns for 300lb psychotic men. It's hard to maintain, but not impossible to do.

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I suppose it depends on the situation-if you have a family you would want to get to them I would anyways -also it would depend on what they were in there for-maybe Id let out the ones who werent violent but not the most dangerous ones for sure because there always are enough murderers/looters/perverts/desperate individuals left no matter the scenario . But my first priority would be to my daughter.