Nice display, it emphasizes the point well. The revolving door of the federal government should be shut down so stuff like this doesn't happen.

I don't know where you guys have been, but trying to make this a "Republican/Democrat" thing is so far "out there" as to defy reason!

You may as well claim it's all about the Jews, or Zionists, or whatever.

If there is any truth about this situation its that the political and ideological "costumes" these people wear are strictly theatrical components meant to dilute resistance and keep their nerve center out of the cross-hairs.

Please, please, PLEASE... don't resort to that silly notion that some "party" or other is guilty ... there is ONLY ONE PARTY (it's the "Big Club" as G. Carlin would say.)... that party works towards the agenda of the ONE BANK... (to engender and reinforce the new "Economic" Royalty) and their objective is perpetual unquestioned control.... (isn't it always that way?)

The banks don't control everything yet, but they are another Free Market preaching President away from total control. If any current politicians wants a fighting chance to run for President, they are going to have to deal with the bankers. They need that campaign funding. It is the republicans who have labeled campaign donations as free speech, and is seems to be the only form of speech they approve of. You can ignore this if you want, but that would be very sheople of you.

There are only two chances of fixing our current situation.

One way would be to elect a politician with enough popularity, and the moral strength to fix this mess, to the presidency. Maybe Petraeus will be our man. I think he is right where he should be right now, to get the job done. As DotCIA, he has a legitimate chance to seize the reigns of power, but the people who really control our fed gov these days. All evidence points to Obama spending four more years as POTUS. The democrats might even take the house and the senate, and do what they did last time they controlled both branches, raise taxes on the rich back up to where they should be, and start regulating business once again. The Democrats at least demonstrated they were willing to do just that When Clinton was first elected. This would set the stage for Petraeus to run for POTUS, and begin the real house cleaning that needs to happen in the fed gov.

We would all be better off if we could shrink the size of the ICBs down to the point where we could drown them in the bath water.

The other way would be a total collapse of the system. The real unemployment rate is over 20% and rising. The only thing keeping us from slipping into deflationary cycles is expansion of the monetary system. Sooner or later, either lots more people are going to get sources of income, or more and more people are going to default on their debts, and we will slip into deflation, and it will be the fortunes of the ICBs, and the super rich which will loose the most, being that few of the rest of us will have anything to loose.

All the big factors are coming into play for a world wide economic collapse.

Peak oil arrived in 2008, and all indicators show that we are going into a steeper decline. This decline on world oil production will vastly change the value of current capital assets. Not only will refineries slowly become worthless, along with the tanker fleets, gas stations, it will no longer be economically feasible to produce things on one side of the planet, taking advantage of weak labor and environmental laws, and shipping to the other side of the planet. Especially when the people on the other side of the planet have ran out of credit to buy stuff from the other side of the planet.

Suburban sprawls built for their inefficiency, for the profits of the ICs, will also become economically unfeasible. People simply will not be able to afford to drive the long distances required by these inefficient suburban sprawls. Our systems are built to be horribly inefficient, and this is simply not sustainable. People think home prices are underwater now, wait and see what happens as these suburban sprawls disintegrate.

Planned obsolescence of our disposable society will also no longer be feasible. This is where most of our energy usage is wasted. All of this is purely for the profits of the ICs. Our problems aren't lack of productivity, we could be job sharing and greatly reduce unemployment. We currently produce more than we consume. Unemployment exists to keep the masses corralled. The problem is waste. The ICs need us to be inefficient so they can keep taking a cut out of everything that we do.

Where do we go then?

We could be making small lightweight electrical hybrid vehicles in small warehouses that will last a lifetime, which will create a small industry to support said vehicles, small businesses that do vehicle interiors, and custom shops everywhere.

Most production can be done these days in small warehouses, with robotics.

Instead of large windmill farms,we have numerous small windmills scattered about. Some produce electricity, and some store compressed air to supply electricity when the wind isn't blowing. The last thing we fall back on is diesel generators ran on hemp produced bio-diesel. We become a nation of small communities and farms once again.

This is where I see us going in the future, no matter which option plays out.

Originally posted by poet1b
Umm, maybe you should have read the post you are reply to.

I did, and always do.

This is what I said."This is old news, but all to many choose to ignore that this situation was put into place before Obama ever took office by the former Bush admin.

No you didn't. Well, yeah maybe you did, but we all know what you were implying.

Do you really think Obama runs the fed gov? He is blocked every step of the way from actually taking the reigns of power that POTUS should hold."

Obviously it is you who doesn't read what you're responding to. I clearly made my case that Obama is nothing more than a hand picked yes man. Nice try though.

If you want to blame Obama for this situation, then you are one of the sheoples.

LOL! Again, All I did was blame his puppet masters who call the shots. You tried to be sneaky and blame the prior administration (Bush) which I already had said because there is only one Party in American Politics, and that's the masters of puppets Party.

Is Obama a complete sell out? Who knows, maybe not even Obama. I didn't vote for the guy, I voted for McCain. I don't think Obama is Goldman Sach's choice, but he is what they got, and they do everything they can to control him.

Of course he is "a sell out", but just one of many on both sides. So was Bush.

So you voted for McCain? Oh ok then, now I understand what's going on here with you. Listen my friend, if you voted for McCain, then it clearly really is you who is sheoplized. Maybe you have since then recovered from that mistake, I don't know. I buy for a second that you voted for McCain.

Is the democratic and republican party the same?

Internationally (Foreign Policy), Yes.

No it is not. they have fundamental differences.

Like what? Both pretty much supports abortion, open borders, Socialized medicine, pork barrel spending ect..., I could go on but why? Yeah sure one plays the race card and the other supposedly is backed by the wealthy. Well, that plays into their game of division. Course with the left, they pretend that they are not backed by the wealthy, but anyone who understands American Politics understands what a lie that is. They are all being payed off on both sides.

Are the democrats every bit as elite, and out of touch with representing the people of the U.S. as the republicans are? Yes they are. Read my signature.

So we agree then. See how easy that is? But next time just leave out the part about it not being Obama's fault because it started in the prior Administration, and the fact that you voted for John McCain as well because at the end of the day, that is what set off the sheople alert system. I like the signature though. ~SheopleNation

If everything is slanted the way that wallstreet does well, isnt all you have to do to get yourself a well balanced portofolio?

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It's a sick shame, but true. These devils have hijacked the government from the bottom up. Too bad OWS doesn't protest outside of there headquarters!