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Fetuses in Prime-Time? How Right-Wingers Are Exploiting a Loophole to Air Anti-Choice Propaganda

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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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David Lewis will not be the next congressman from Ohio's 8th District. But for Lewis, an unemployed former IT technician who is challenging House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in next year's Republican primary, winning isn't the objective.

By running for federal office, Lewis can compel local television stations to run grisly anti-abortion ads that would otherwise never stand a chance of making it on the air. Emphasis on grisly: Lewis' ads feature what purport to be dismembered fetuses, tied together in neat little bundles, or simply mangled beyond recognition. "The FCC says that 45 days out from a primary and 60 days out from a general election, we can run ads on a television station with FCC licenses—unedited, uncensored, they can't deny it as long as we buy the spot," he explains.


Fetuses in Prime-Time?

I know I’m going to catch a lot of flak over this …..
I believe that a woman has the right to choose. Just because Lewis doesn’t share that opinion doesn’t give him the right to use this type of ad campaign. Lewis has the right to feel the way he does about abortion but I feel that this is not the way for him to get his message across.

What do you think about this?

Note: Please refrain from posting pics of aborted fetuses. There are some who do not wish to see them.

Thanks





edit on 20-11-2011 by mikemck1976 because: Spelling




posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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prochoice or not i dont think it matters...this guy is disgusting and should be Censored.
S+F



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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I'm more on the pro-life side of things, but very much in the camp that realizes the issue isn't as simple as being 100% one way or the other. Having said that, I agree with just how rank and offensive an ad campaign like this is likely to be.

I may even agree with some of what they are trying to communicate, but I have no desire to see it forced across my television. I think they'll do themselves more harm than good outside of preaching to the choir. Although, again...even that choir won't likely be entirely supportive of going this far.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.


It's way worse than that.

They are pro-war.
So are a lot of Democrats for that matter.

But if someone says "it's wrong to kill a fetus" which is their right to an opinion, they should at least have the decency to support this principle in other subjects as well.

It's wrong to kill a fetus but it's ok to kill foreign fetuses, toddlers, teens, seniors, etc in other nations through indiscriminate bombing of cities etc?

It's very contradictory.

To me pro-life means anti-war.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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How many infants have you known who had committed crimes worthy of the death penalty? Your logic is...well not logic.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.
They are pro-infanticide, but prefer to coddle cold blooded killers. I will never understand liberals.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.


It's way worse than that.

They are pro-war.
So are a lot of Democrats for that matter.

But if someone says "it's wrong to kill a fetus" which is their right to an opinion, they should at least have the decency to support this principle in other subjects as well.

It's wrong to kill a fetus but it's ok to kill foreign fetuses, toddlers, teens, seniors, etc in other nations through indiscriminate bombing of cities etc?

It's very contradictory.

To me pro-life means anti-war.


Then you consider the pro torture mentality that accompanies the pro war...



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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War is not about democrat or republican. They are all brainwashed. But let's not forget who is in charge now and waging war all over the world. Not that it would matter because parties are just a sham. Murder is murder, but comparing murderers to the unborn is just stupid.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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I wonder if the over-generalizations of 'they' isn't part of the problem here, everyone? I've met democrats who are very pro-death penalty and I've met pro-choice conservatives. Outside of Washington and the Media shows, real life citizens really don't fall into most of those cookie cutter definitions, IMHO.

Throwing them around can sure turn a thread into a partisan mess tho, eh?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.
They are pro-infanticide, but prefer to coddle cold blooded killers. I will never understand liberals.


Forcing poor people to have children, but bitch about feeding the same children free food at school...



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.
They are pro-infanticide, but prefer to coddle cold blooded killers. I will never understand liberals.


Forcing poor people to have children, but bitch about feeding the same children free food at school...
How many people do you think have been forced into having consensual sex where pregnancy results? Wisdom is realizing that your actions have consequences and moderating those actions to avoid undesirable consequences.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by jcord
reply to post by muzzleflash
 


War is not about democrat or republican. They are all brainwashed. But let's not forget who is in charge now and waging war all over the world. Not that it would matter because parties are just a sham. Murder is murder, but comparing murderers to the unborn is just stupid.


Are you saying that shooting a pregnant woman is only a crime against one person?

Or is it even more heinous because the fact the woman is carrying a developing child?

We need to take a balanced approach here rather than revel in absolutist philosophies, in my opinion.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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It sounds like he's abusing the law to suit his own agenda.
Campaign money is not intended to run graphic anti-abortion ads. I wonder how many people are actually going to give him any now he's said he has zero intention of winning? Doesn't sound like a good investment to me!

Throw the bum out imo.
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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.
They are pro-infanticide, but prefer to coddle cold blooded killers. I will never understand liberals.

It's not infanticide. Do you think eating eggs is the same as murdering chickens? Is boiling an egg the same as boiling an animal alive? Is it then animal abuse? If a pregnant woman falls down and has a miscarriage is it then manslaughter? Should that pregnant woman go to jail? Let's be logical. A fetus is not a human being. It will become a human being eventually, but it isn't one yet. Also I don't "coddle" killers. I simply want them to realize why what they did is wrong and give them a chance to repent. If you think killing someone is ok then you are the cold blooded killer.
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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
How many people do you think have been forced into having consensual sex where pregnancy results?


Zero percent.

Consensual is the opposite of forced.
Forced is the opposite of consensual.

You have displayed double-think. Please re-evaluate your position.

If you are saying it as a sarcasm I apologize for incorrectly interpreting your statements. I will be open to that possibility that you may not mean what you said, but were instead pointing out an irony.
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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by jcord
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How many infants have you known who had committed crimes worthy of the death penalty? Your logic is...well not logic.



It's not my logic.
It’s the woman’s right to choose, not mine. I just support the woman’s right to have the right to choose.
Who am I to say any different?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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I agree that the political movers and shakers should not be attempting to censor others. That's underhanded and unfair.

I always felt that pro-choice people could easily become pro-abortion as well. All they need to do is realize that letting others abort their children without interference is actually beneficial to their own progeny which they did not abort for countless reasons.

Also anyone who is going to abort a kid 'for cosmetic reasons' probably shouldn't be a parent anyways, think of how selfish they must be to go down this line of thought.

That's why I will not attempt to censor those who are pro-abortion or pro-choice, because I believe I can mediate and bring the two sides together in logic.

I feel that the abortion issue is being utilized in a divisive and disingenuous manner to brainwash people into taking two absolutist and absurd positions which do not reflect true logic or rationality.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

If you are saying it as a sarcasm I apologize for incorrectly interpreting your statements. I will be open to that possibility that you may not mean what you said, but were instead pointing out an irony.
edit on 20-11-2011 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)
We definitely need some way of indicating sarcasm. I apologize if I was less than clear about my intent there.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by targeting

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by targeting
They're pro life, but also pro death penalty. I'll never understand Republicans.
They are pro-infanticide, but prefer to coddle cold blooded killers. I will never understand liberals.

It's not infanticide. Do you think eating eggs is the same as murdering chickens? A fetus is not a human being. It will become a human being eventually, but it isn't one yet. Also I don't "coddle" killers. I simply want them to realize why what they did is wrong and give them a chance to repent.
Yes. Eating eggs is exactly the same as killing chickens. Did you think pineapples would hatch from them?




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