Violence breaks out at Egypt's Tahrir Square (BREAKING NEWS), page 3


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reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 04:22 AM by TheAlmo
reply to post by thePharaoh



Yeah... Egyptians should be arrested for being shot in their eyes with rubber bullets and having their corpses piled up in the garbage.

Mr. Pharaoh, there isn't anything those people can do to deserve this. This sh!t's gotta go.

English Speakers: in the first video a guy says:
- we got his eye! we got his eye! those bastards! (means the protesters)
- god job, sir! (the word subtitles in arabic)
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reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 05:59 AM by ModerateSkeptic
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The problem is, this is making the islamists look good, they are the victims now and they are gaining the support and sympathy of the people. The islamists were the ones who called for the protests on friday in the first place.

www.torontosun.com...


The demonstration that began on Friday was initially led by Islamists, angry at a bid by the army-backed cabinet to lay down principles for a new constitution that would have kept the army out of the control of a future civilian government.


Now, they SHOULD have waited till the elections, and then if nothing happened, they would have had my 100% support, but this is just political parties battling for control and stirring up trouble at the expense of people's lives.

So, while the security forces are clearly the bad guys here, the islamists are not totally clean either, you'd think they would've known this would happen, they're not THAT stupid, really!


The theory about the NWO / radical middle east is becoming clearer day by day
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reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 07:58 AM by OneManArmy
Originally posted by Arsenalwa
I'm from Egypt myself. I honestly don't think it will end well this time. The people who are protesting now are not agents, thugs, nor even islamists, for the most part. These are mostly the normal youth who started the revolution, simply sick of The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces using violence against protests, delaying transition of power to the civilians, and lately issuing that law that would give them power they shouldn't have after they've done that... and just basically acting not much different from the very system we overthrew.

The reason I say that I don't think it will end well this time is because after the amount of violence the SCAF and the police used against the protestors for 2 days now, the protestors will now simply not go away till at least some of their demands are met; and, what I fear, that the SCAF steps down from power. As much as I'm opposed to the SCAF and their use of violence as any other Egyptian youth, I fear that in case that happens chaos may ensue more than ever, especially with the parliament elections very soon. There are solutions that are proposed in case that happens to keep order but I'm not exactly sure they'd really be enough in such a scenario.

My thoughts are with you and the egyptian people, I only hope that bloodshed is kept to a minimum, but yet I fear the worst. Revolutionary movements as history has taught us are often funded and instigated by the same banking cartel that is the enemy of us all, simply so that no matter the outcome, they will maintain their grip and control. I truly think we are in an engineered endtime scenario, created into being to mimic a bible prophesy written by man and brought into being by the rothschild zionists.


reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 08:00 AM by soficrow
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the military would be exempted from civilian oversight, as would its budget. .


Sounds familiar.

By any means necessary, ie., $32,000 for a toilet seat.






S&F& for the thread.


reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 08:47 AM by DenyStupidity
reply to post by IndigoValor



This is idiotic beyond belief!

They will solve nothing like this, this is just mindless thuggery. They ,may not show these ''protesters'' doing anything but running around but its obvious there not as calm and to themselves as it looks, just as the police are not either.

People need to get a grip and learn more about the world around them, nothing is solved like this, only the intelligence to undermine the system from within.

Idiots, sorry but they are idiots.


reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 09:14 AM by thePharaoh
Originally posted by TheAlmo



Yeah... Egyptians should be arrested for
being shot in their eyes with rubber bullets and having their corpses piled up in the garbage.

Mr. Pharaoh, there isn't anything those people can do to deserve this. This sh!t's gotta go.

English Speakers: in the first video a guy says:
- we got his eye! we got his eye! those bastards! (means the protesters)
- god job, sir! (the word subtitles in arabic)
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thats where your wrong
anything that happens post protests is on their own heads.

what are these people thinking they will achieve....they got rid of the president...ok...a round of applause.
but to fight the army lolol.

then.... these people are out of touch with the other 80 million egyptians
you can put any minority in tahrir sq. and they will look like the majority

most egyptians predicted trouble makers would do this pre elections to destabilise egypt.
these people are not egyptians doing it for egypt....bunch of trouble makers undermining the state.
as an egyptian...im with the army...fill the prisons up, and let them out after the election.
after we have a president, then we will address the army.

this way .....is sabotage

peace
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reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 09:54 AM by smallpeeps
First, there is some group called "soldiers". Second, there is some group called "police".

Now, when soldiers return, they sometimes become police. See the movie "Harsh Times" for one soldier's return to home-life, and his desire to seek employment as a policeman, but he is told that the only route for him, to be a soldier. Watch this film, then watch the Rambo films (especially part 1, "First Blood") and observe how the whole Rambo thing, is the same as the Harsh Times thing. It's a soldier, who wants to be a cop, or could be a cop, but is he really the kind of cop we WANT? The cop in "First Blood", is a feudal sheriff-of-nottingham-type asshead. The cop in "Harsh Times", is the soldier's high school chum, and yet is still a douche. Please watch these great education films, and also, please encourage your local school board to show these films to their students, in order to break the MK currently being applied to their children.

In fact, as these movies show, it is the plight of the returning soldier, which is the true cause.

Also, the plight of the dumbass cop, who grew up in his town and never went to war, never has seen anything but his home state, yet who oppresses the returning soldier (see First Blood, Rambo Part 1).

QUESTION: Does the Executive branch, empower the returning soldier, more than they empower, the local fiefdom podunk nottingham-modality sheriffs/cops/troopers? FURTHER QUESTION: Do the state troopers, since they police/ride Eisenhower's construct (the national highways), obtain more Federal backing? Further question, if the answer be yes, that these classes all have different power-gifts from the Federal governing body?

How shall we classify, the executive branch and corporate branches of government, in regards to supporting the following classes of agents?

1: current soldier
2: returning soldier
3: current cop ex-soldier
4: current cop no soldiery
5: current highway trooper ex-soldier
6: ex highway trooper no soldiery

... And so on?

The point I am making is this: You cannot know if there are any good men in these groups above, until they are faced with the shoot-dont-shoot scenario, within the context of their authority. That is to say (and soldiers will know what I mean) until the enemy draws his rifle bead on you and you must kill him, in order to live, well, until that moment where you must act one way or the other (as Rambo when he is escorted out of town by the local podunk cop), then you cannot know what sort of man, is inside the uniform. This truth carries forward across all regimes, and all nations. The uniform as such, removes the knowledge of the man, until the uniform itself, and its authority, is tested. To say it another way, the man who dons a uniform, hides himself, in a way, and he must transcend the uniform, in order to again be as real, as the non-uniformed.

Understanding the above, we can understand why in the First Blood movie, the stupid podunk officer takes offense to Rambo wearing the jacket whilst having long hair. He says "its a disgrace to that uniform." Do you see? The Rambo series is merely a display of groups of men fighting over the costumes/uniforms and the imbued power they carry. The cop thinks his uniform has more resonance with his townspeople. Rambo feels (as he is part Indian) that long hair and his GI issue jacket, is an American sentiment, and he feels that the cop is wrong about this idea that Rambo disgraces the uniform. That's what really hackles Rambo, imo. He feels that the local cop feels that cop-dom is more American, than soldier-dom.

Well anyway, the only way to refine these uniformed men, to boil them out as good or bad, is for the people to simply stop consenting. The meek way is the true way, to boil out the good men in the uniformed ranks. Yes, there will be more SS type thuggery than there will be Rambo-type heroes, but over time, the people will always win.

Anyway, in none of these movies, is voting mentioned. Basically, is total crap which only results in skull and bones running two Yale bonesmen for the Executive office (Bush v. Kerry). I bet they'll be laughing 100 years from now, at that one. I mean you really have to tip Satan's cap to them. Hmm, let's see, Bush was Air National Guard and Kerry was a boat captain. I think Rambo as an Army Ranger, still outranks them both.
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