It's ridiculous to assert that war drums are only being beat on one side and that the muslim nations only react to provocation against them.

You do yourself a disservice by showing a keen intellect one moment and then complete ignorance the next.

Yeah: We'll get what's coming to us eventually...but it won't be at the hands of Iran.

Most of us Americans here on ATS realize our foreign policy has been wrong...but do you realize the problems, violence, and hypocrisy of your own nation as well?

God bless you and I hope and will pray for peace for your family and people.

I've said it here many times before that it's the governments that can't get along because of their thirst for power, but we the people can usually get along with each other quite well.

Peace to you and yours.

There can be no smoke without fire.

There's plenty of bad blood between USA leaders and Iranian regime leaders, after the 70s, an unresolved issue and a baggage that hinders the relationship between this 2 nations whom view each other with natural suspicion.

BUT it need not be this way. The past had happen, and nothing can change the past. However, we can still build the future today, on better terms.

And it begins with the Iranian gov.

1. It had claimed that it wants peaceful nuke energy, and yet, the facts shown are diametrically opposite of what its public stands, with secret nuke armaments being planned along discovered. Why the hypocrisy? Hitler too hid his war capabilities but offered a benevolent public front till the time was ripe to attack, thus the current world's worry about that iranian gov hypocrisy.

It must come clean, allow inspectors in. It's no longer a matter of 'national sovereignity', for nukes affects the whole world, not just the iranian gov's enemies. Humanity shares this world and must be assured of what Iran actually plans.

Many more including the insignificant nobody me can accept Iran as a nuke armed power, but it must behave responsibly as part of the larger human community on Earth, and never to use such powers unless last resort to peaceful existance.

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2 Funding of international terrorists:- Terrorists had sworned to wipe out humanity and had ATTACKED to proof its stance. Thus they are enemies of the human race.

Iranian gov had been found with evidences to supporting such animals.

Again, it must come clean and provide counter evidences, or in the least, offer names of those beasts whom had approach them for help so that they may be apprehended before another innocent life is taken away.

If the iranian gov fails to do this, then don't blame the world's suspicions on them, and hope fervantly that the iranian citizens may be spared if Iran gov chosed to be belligerant and holds its people hostage, to continue on with its programs to undermine peace in our world and times.

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3 Israel

Distracting the citizens from their economic woes by pointing out a target to hate is nothing new in politics. The 'death to USA, death to Israel' chants must end, and instead, proactive patient engagement with Israel to resolve the palestinian issue is the ONLY way.

Showing of fists or threats will only get everyone in the world killed.

Or is promoting such hatred the only way the Iranian gov can remain in power? If so, then may the innocent iranian citizens be spared of their political leaders' greed.

You or I are powerless to change even one iota of perceptions from both camps. It needs the help of the leaders themselves to come clean, make clear on their stand, so that citizens can decide on their free will, to choose for life, peace and security, or death in support of foolishness and greed.

Powerless we may be, but not without power to discuss, debate and get our families, relatives and friends to support the right course, to hold dialogues with leaders, and if they don't listen, to stand in the streets as one people and voice out concerns loudly, which cannot be ignored then.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
There can be no smoke without fire.

There's plenty of bad blood between USA leaders and Iranian regime leaders, after the 70s, an unresolved issue and a baggage that hinders the relationship between this 2 nations whom view each other with natural suspicion.

BUT it need not be this way. The past had happen, and nothing can change the past. However, we can still build the future today, on better terms.

And it begins with the Iranian gov.

1. It had claimed that it wants peaceful nuke energy, and yet, the facts shown are diametrically opposite of what its public stands, with secret nuke armaments being planned along discovered. Why the hypocrisy? Hitler too hid his war capabilities but offered a benevolent public front till the time was ripe to attack, thus the current world's worry about that iranian gov hypocrisy.

And of course you have irrefutable proof of this 'fact' do you? Perhaps you would care to quote reputable sources for the piece of information, other of course than trumped up reports by the American and Israeli governments. Oh and by the way Saddam hid his capabilities as well?

It must come clean, allow inspectors in. It's no longer a matter of 'national sovereignity', for nukes affects the whole world, not just the iranian gov's enemies. Humanity shares this world and must be assured of what Iran actually plans.

It did allow inspectors in yet despite this was still accused of planning bomb. The Iranians have said that at one time it was their intention but that it is not now.

When the Americans and Israelis allow FULL access to their nuclear program then, and only then, do they have the right to demand the same of others.

Many more including the insignificant nobody me can accept Iran as a nuke armed power, but it must behave responsibly as part of the larger human community on Earth, and never to use such powers unless last resort to peaceful existance.

Rich coming from the country that behaves so completely irresponsibly towards the larger community on Earth.

2 Funding of international terrorists:- Terrorists had sworned to wipe out humanity and had ATTACKED to proof its stance. Thus they are enemies of the human race.

Iranian gov had been found with evidences to supporting such animals.

First animals are not terrorists and terrorists should not be compared to them

Second - well pot calling the kettle I think sums it up.

Again, it must come clean and provide counter evidences, or in the least, offer names of those beasts whom had approach them for help so that they may be apprehended before another innocent life is taken away.

What about the innocent lives taken by American aggression? The perpetrators of that should also be apprehended before another innocent life is taken away.

If the iranian gov fails to do this, then don't blame the world's suspicions on them, and hope fervantly that the iranian citizens may be spared if Iran gov chosed to be belligerant and holds its people hostage, to continue on with its programs to undermine peace in our world and times.

By the world I take it you mean the American government and MSM. Most intelligent and sane people see that the people undermining the world are actually the US Government / MSM and the controllers of both which brings us to......
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3 Israel

Distracting the citizens from their economic woes by pointing out a target to hate is nothing new in politics. The 'death to USA, death to Israel' chants must end, and instead, proactive patient engagement with Israel to resolve the palestinian issue is the ONLY way.

This of course is why the American government does this.

Showing of fists or threats will only get everyone in the world killed.

No the yanks will do that anyway.

Or is promoting such hatred the only way the Iranian gov can remain in power? If so, then may the innocent iranian citizens be spared of their political leaders' greed.

Likewise the Americans.

Powerless we may be, but not without power to discuss, debate and get our families, relatives and friends to support the right course, to hold dialogues with leaders, and if they don't listen, to stand in the streets as one people and voice out concerns loudly, which cannot be ignored then.

Wrong. Which will be ignored and met with further violence until the people do the bidding of the megalomaniac leaders.

Any more MSM BS you would like to trot out?

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
There can be no smoke without fire.

There's plenty of bad blood between USA leaders and Iranian regime leaders, after the 70s, an unresolved issue and a baggage that hinders the relationship between this 2 nations whom view each other with natural suspicion.

BUT it need not be this way. The past had happen, and nothing can change the past. However, we can still build the future today, on better terms.

And it begins with the Iranian gov.

1. It had claimed that it wants peaceful nuke energy, and yet, the facts shown are diametrically opposite of what its public stands, with secret nuke armaments being planned along discovered. Why the hypocrisy? Hitler too hid his war capabilities but offered a benevolent public front till the time was ripe to attack, thus the current world's worry about that iranian gov hypocrisy.

It must come clean, allow inspectors in. It's no longer a matter of 'national sovereignity', for nukes affects the whole world, not just the iranian gov's enemies. Humanity shares this world and must be assured of what Iran actually plans.

Many more including the insignificant nobody me can accept Iran as a nuke armed power, but it must behave responsibly as part of the larger human community on Earth, and never to use such powers unless last resort to peaceful existance.

.
2 Funding of international terrorists:- Terrorists had sworned to wipe out humanity and had ATTACKED to proof its stance. Thus they are enemies of the human race.

Iranian gov had been found with evidences to supporting such animals.

Again, it must come clean and provide counter evidences, or in the least, offer names of those beasts whom had approach them for help so that they may be apprehended before another innocent life is taken away.

If the iranian gov fails to do this, then don't blame the world's suspicions on them, and hope fervantly that the iranian citizens may be spared if Iran gov chosed to be belligerant and holds its people hostage, to continue on with its programs to undermine peace in our world and times.

.
3 Israel

Distracting the citizens from their economic woes by pointing out a target to hate is nothing new in politics. The 'death to USA, death to Israel' chants must end, and instead, proactive patient engagement with Israel to resolve the palestinian issue is the ONLY way.

Showing of fists or threats will only get everyone in the world killed.

Or is promoting such hatred the only way the Iranian gov can remain in power? If so, then may the innocent iranian citizens be spared of their political leaders' greed.

You or I are powerless to change even one iota of perceptions from both camps. It needs the help of the leaders themselves to come clean, make clear on their stand, so that citizens can decide on their free will, to choose for life, peace and security, or death in support of foolishness and greed.

Powerless we may be, but not without power to discuss, debate and get our families, relatives and friends to support the right course, to hold dialogues with leaders, and if they don't listen, to stand in the streets as one people and voice out concerns loudly, which cannot be ignored then.

There`s been no facts saying that Iran are making secret nuke armaments.
Unless we are to believe the latest reports that were made from Western intelligence.

You say Iran fund Terrorists.
Take a look at all Western governments and see who funds most Terrorists.
Look at NATO.....US, UK, France etc.
They`ve just worked alongside a group of rebels, killing thousands of civilians, bombing the hell out of another country and help overthrow thatCountry.

Then you have Israel with all their warheads but nothing said about that is there ?
Don`t you think Iran have the right to defend themselves ?

As for torture.
Iraq civilians, Afghan civilians, Guantanamo bay, Bradley Manning etc etc.

Well, of course, senior talking heads in Iran are going to try to pump up the public...and try to make them think that they could take on the Great, Small, Fairly Big, Medium, Teeny-Tiny, and other Satans, and win.

You would not really expect them to get up and say, "We better keep our yaps shut...'cause the Yanks can kick our butts". They have to keep spirits up so that they can meet their recruiting targets. Nobody wants to sign up to play on a team that everybody thinks is going to lose the game...oh, and in this game the losers tend to lose their lives too.

Iran is on the list...sorry to say. So is Syria. So are others. As was Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

No amount of puffing up and trying to look big is going to save this regime. It is going to be taken down about ten pegs...in the not too distant future.

The only thing that is going to prevent this, likely, is for the current regime to stand down....allow free elections...thus stopping the threats to Isreal. It probably wouldn't hurt too...if Iran stopped holding its annual Death to America day.

But that's not going to happen now is it...