reply to post by undo
I think you misunderstand my position.
I don't think any particular brand of humanity is automatically a bunch of scumbags. What I am trying to point out is that the leading edge of any
culture's expansionary wavefront is usually composed of sociopaths who never fit in back in their main society because of their sociopathic natures.
Being the leading edge and point of contact, being far from the rule of law and custom, they were free to express their sociopathy to the full.
Currently the expansionary wavefront is the economy.
Those who remained at home, not sociopaths themselves, benefited from the actions of their fellow citizens' barbarous behaviors,shutting their eyes
and hearts to the human cost of it. While accepting the benefits of those behaviors, they simultaneously claimed freedom from the guilt, because they,
personally, did nothing wrong. It is akin to the Mafia don who never personally pulled a trigger, tortured anyone, or directly threatened anyone, or
today's American citizen who claims innocence of the wrongdoings in the War on Terror while tolerating the existence of Guantanamo prison,
"extraordinary renditions", secret prisons scattered around the globe, extralegal drone attacks and assassinations, or the Wall Street executives who
claim complete innocence of malfeasance, saying it was the lower ranking individual brokers who conned the gullible into buying toxic garbage,
destroying their lives and futures in the process.
I appreciate the fact you as an individual respect my people and my culture, but that respect doesn't translate into an absolvence of the guilt
attached to tolerating the continued subjugation of the Nations by your nation as a whole until and unless you actively work in some way to rectify
To bring it back to the main point of the thread, too many people globally feel that they personally have done nothing to wrong those who are
unemployed, homeless, sunk in overwhelming debt, etc, while simultaneously supporting a system that tolerates sub-living wage labor laws, unfettered
wealth-building, obviously corrupt judiciaries and political systems and the complete lack of healthcare for bottom of our societies. Your/our
tolerance of these things and lack of effort to rectify them makes us all guilty by omission, or at least not innocent of supporting wrongdoing.
begin to take personal responsibility for the states of our various nations, or give up the title of citizen.
We must actively work to bring justice and equality before the law to our various nations or accept the fact that we are not worthy of being
considered responsible citizens.
It is not easy work changing the world, and it requires enormous patience, dedication, and perseverance. You measure progress in decades, not
I am a Vietnam veteran.
When I returned home, some greeted me with the title "babykiller".
It took me years to comprehend and accept the truth that the title was deserved and appropriate. While I never personally pulled a trigger or dropped
a bomb, my actions directly supported those who did. Their actions took the lives of many innocents. I have had to live with that guilt and
acknowledge it every single day of my life since, and do what little I can to mitigate it. It has never been easy to admit it to myself or to others,
but it is true nonetheless. Passage of time has not eased the burden nor lessened the obligation to do what I can to make amends and never will, even
were I to live for a thousand years.
We all of us must accept responsibility for those things done in our name, and from which we derive benefits; mere lack of direct control or action
does not absolve us of the guilt nor relieve us of the responsibility to make amends. If, through inaction or despair of effectiveness, we tolerate
injustice and suffering, then we are as guilty of wrongdoing as those who directly commit the crimes against humanity.
I hope this clarifies what I meant by my examples.
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