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Originally posted by WhoDat09
reply to post by mastahunta
No they did nothing to me, they did nothing to hurt me, but I don't agree with what they are doing!
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by neo96
I'm not a communist or socialist, and I am not anti-capitalist. That is not representative of the occupy movement as a whole, but rather individuals within the movement, AKA it's a generalization.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by beezzer
Yeah I know.
Next will come that because I think the OWS crowds lack of direction, agenda or leadership is because I support the Corporations and Big banks..
Either that or I'll be called a shill, Neocon or whatever else they are going to want to fling.
That sucks. Whether you're a Republican, Democrat, transvestite, homosexual, Communist, Anarchist, or Socialist, you can still share the common belief that our government is corrupt and controlled by big bankers. The intentions of the protests are not to install a communist/socialist government.
I'm not Neo but those "Individuals within the movement" are wreaking havoc with it's reputation.
Now the Unions and the communist party represent a fairly large group of "Individuals"
Because they're the only massive protest group that's against government corruption that I know of, and you're stating that you oppose them.
Why do you assume that those of us who disagree with OWS are throwing in the towel and giving up?
That'll surely fix the country
I'm doing what I can to change what I think is important. Raising kids who know right from wrong and have empathy is a start.
Whatever
Wreaking havoc on others' lives is not part of my plan.
Originally posted by Maluhia
reply to post by TupacShakur
Why do you assume that those of us who disagree with OWS are throwing in the towel and giving up? I'm doing what I can to change what I think is important. Raising kids who know right from wrong and have empathy is a start. Wreaking havoc on others' lives is not part of my plan.
Originally posted by Maluhia
reply to post by TupacShakur
Raising kids who know right from wrong and have empathy is a start.
That's good, you have some common ground with the protests, just as basically everybody else does. Why not use that common ground to come up with some practical solutions at your local occupy protest rather than come up with cool ATS posts that will get you some stars?
Nor do I support Corporatism, Big Banks or Bail outs etc.
You're either for or against corruption. While your method of dealing with the corruption may not align with that of others, there is no middle ground for corruption itself. There is room for debate on the vehicle for dealing with the corruption, but why not use that in the form of constructive criticism at your local protest instead of online internet forum criticism?
The majority of Americans have not bought into this fictitious "Polarization" of you are either with us or against us crap.
Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
Neo you keep doing exactly what I'm talking about. You get a few pictures of a handful of people and denounce the whole movement for it. I can confidently say that the majority of OWS isn't the Democratic Socialist Movement for America.
A majority want Justice. That is all. A majority want smaller government.
IMO once people realize that a majority of Ron Paul's solutions are exactly what OWS advocates is when Ron Paul will sky rocket. I support OWS because of the underlying message. Whenever the moment comes that a Banker is finally held accountable for their actions over the last decade I will be happy.
I don't advocate Socialism/Communism/Anarchy or anything else the MSM tells you Occupy stands for. Growing up in this country has shown me a majority of what this country stands for works. The first 100 years of the US of A is a clear indication of that. The first 100 years of this country is what made this country great. We have been on a slippery slope ever since the Federal Reserve took over and current events are a culmination of that.
But you can continue to agree with the MSM. That's what they want remember......
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by FreedomXisntXFree
Neo you keep doing exactly what I'm talking about. You get a few pictures of a handful of people and denounce the whole movement for it. I can confidently say that the majority of OWS isn't the Democratic Socialist Movement for America.
A majority want Justice. That is all. A majority want smaller government.
IMO once people realize that a majority of Ron Paul's solutions are exactly what OWS advocates is when Ron Paul will sky rocket. I support OWS because of the underlying message. Whenever the moment comes that a Banker is finally held accountable for their actions over the last decade I will be happy.
I don't advocate Socialism/Communism/Anarchy or anything else the MSM tells you Occupy stands for. Growing up in this country has shown me a majority of what this country stands for works. The first 100 years of the US of A is a clear indication of that. The first 100 years of this country is what made this country great. We have been on a slippery slope ever since the Federal Reserve took over and current events are a culmination of that.
But you can continue to agree with the MSM. That's what they want remember......
I find it fascinating that pro-OWS here keep insisting that the movement isn't riddled with communists and neo nazis and anti-Capitalists seeking socialist direct democracy to replace our Republic when all their signs, demands, and agendas, and things they say on the livestreams all point to exactly that. It's like you yourself may not be anti-Capitalist and assume that most of the OWS think likewise.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by Maluhia
Because they're the only massive protest group that's against government corruption that I know of, and you're stating that you oppose them.
Why do you assume that those of us who disagree with OWS are throwing in the towel and giving up?
That'll surely fix the country
I'm doing what I can to change what I think is important. Raising kids who know right from wrong and have empathy is a start.
Whatever
Wreaking havoc on others' lives is not part of my plan.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
but why not use that in the form of constructive criticism at your local protest instead of online internet forum criticism?