Survival For Those Who Live In Apartments... And Choose To Wait It Out!!, page 2

reply to post by NoRegretsEver

Everything that burns produces smoke, you just do not notice it when the flame is smaller like that of a candle or that coffee can stove. I'm very confident you could use a wood burning stove the size of a breadbox in your appartment and suffer very little ill effects as long as it's placed on a surface it will not destroy near a window or as you mentioned with the solar cooking idea, on the roof. I personally think a small wood stove outdoors on a fire escape would be the ideal cooking set up. No smoke or smell in your living space as well, if you spill any food stuffs or grease you don't draw in pests.

As well you made mention about water.... Being in a Large city is probably the hardest place to survive in the event of a disaster where you would be likely to need to survive until things return to normal, or well.... You die ha ha.

In the event of a natural disaster like an earthquake water, gas and electricity supplies will most likely be damaged and unavailable or shut off by emergency personal to prevent flooding, injury or explosions. Now unless you live near a natural source of water, creek, stream, river, lake or even the ocean you're in some serious trouble. Unless the city you happen to live in gets a considerable amount of rain every few days you could be entertaining the reaper in a week or less. If you live near the ocean keep in mind you can not drink salt water, but you can turn Sea water into drinking water. This method is extremely simple but will require patience. Take a pot, or kettle and boil the sea water, Collect the steam and allow it to condense back into water. Most of the heavy salt will be left behind in the kettle or pot. I've used a more complex method where a kettle spout feeds into a piece of two foot piping. At the end of the piping is a spout that will drip into a fresh water container. The two foot piping is about 1 inch wide, keep in mind the more surface area the faster your condensation will collect. Around the two foot piping is a piece of 3 inch pvc pipe that is filled with cold water from the same source as the water to be evaporated. By cooling the steam pipe, I find the fresh water is collected faster, and less is lost to the atmosphere. You could use this method in the city to turn otherwise undrinkable water into something you can consume, or give to your children.

As well, it's a good idea to put lists of places to scavenge for food and or supplies in your B.O.B. for those SHTF scenarios. Keep in mind depending on the survival scenario super markets and drug stores will be empty with in the first week. Either from people panic shopping or looting. Think of alternative sources for supplies. Schools, rec centers, vetrinary clinics, warehouses, hospitals( this will get hit for medicine and other drugs in the first week too, but it's worth a go). pet stores ( medicine, even some of the pet foods can be used for bait or your own food. ) Think out side of the box, but it's good to have an idea of where to look.

As well if you're at all willing to give it a shot you can find plenty of Youtube how to's on making TCPOI for making your own glowsticks which can last for weeks on end depending on how you make them. How ever buying glowsticks themselves is much easier and at $1 or less a piece you can't really go wrong can you ? Besides, every drug, grocery, hardware and dollar store carries tons of them, so in a SHTF scenario I'm sure you can find some somewhere. If not simple oil candles are an amazing source of light and heat. You can use any oil, whether it's olive, canola or even bacon grease all you need is a dish and a wick.

I hope someone finds what I've added useful. love these threads.